The Sharif of Mecca seeking support from Somali Sultans & Sheikhs for the Arab Revolt

Wouldn't the Marjeerteen and Warsangali sultanates be under the influence of Italy and the British at the time in 1916 (the start of the Arab revolt)?
 

The truth seeker

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Hussein bin Ali was an idiot and is the reason why Palestinians are in the situation they are in today he got outplayed so hard by the British diplomats and American oil men
 

Shimbiris

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Ibn saud then signed a deal with an American corporation called the California standard oil company which is now known as Aramco the most valuable company in the world

Hussein honestly had it coming. Dude was super arrogant and entitled. Making all sorts of wild demands of the cadaan colonial powers like he didn't realize he was basically a client monarch. Ibn Saud was a lot wiser and understood that Arab rulers like him were nowhere near on the same playing field as the world powers that were now carving up the Ottomans. Kept his head down and didn't even invade the Hejaz until he was absolutely sure they were fine with him doing so. Ya gotta know when you're the power of the day and when you're not.
 

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Hussein honestly had it coming. Dude was super arrogant and entitled. Making all sorts of wild demands of the cadaan colonial powers like he didn't realize he was basically a client monarch. Ibn Saud was a lot wiser and understood that Arab rulers like him were nowhere near on the same playing field as the world powers that were now carving up the Ottomans. Kept his head down and didn't even invade the Hejaz until he was absolutely sure they were fine with him doing so. Ya gotta know when you're the power of the day and when you're not.
Interesting I heard he was a Zionist or was at least sympathetic to there cause is that true ?
 

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Interesting I heard he was a Zionist or was at least sympathetic to there cause is that true ?

Not as far as I know. I'm more knowledgeable about Ibn Saud, but I do know that Hussein's grand ambition was to be King of All the Arabs, including those in the Levant and basically unite the Levant, Iraq and the Peninsula at least into one state.

Certainly would not have supported the establishment of Israel within the territory he felt so deeply entitled to. Maybe at best just allow the Jews to come settle within his realm and under his protection but no Israel. Plus, a guy trying to be King of all Arabs is not going to support ethnic cleansing Arabs out of the Holy Land.
 

Mohamedamiin120

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Wait Aramco isnt saudi ?

It used to be called the "American-Arabian Oil Company" until they realized that's bad looks and changed it in the 50s. It used to be 50% controlled by Texeco, Standard Oil of New Jersey (later known as Exxon) controlled 10%, Socony Vaccum (later known as Mobil) controlled 10%.

In recent times of course the Saudis have bought off most of this, and now the company is majority ran by the Saudi Gov (and most of the rest is ran by members of the royal family).

I never knew any of this stuff until very recently, Saudi has some skeletons in the closet! They also used to arrest ppl in the 20s/30s on behalf of England who were rebels from neighboring countries, they also (on behalf of England) went to war against the Ikhwan (who did most of the heavy lifting conquering Arabia for them), if it was not for Saudi betrayal of their own tribal militias Jordan would have likely fallen to Wahabiyyah (they went to 9 miles south of Amman LMFAO)
 

Mohamedamiin120

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Not as far as I know. I'm more knowledgeable about Ibn Saud, but I do know that Hussein's grand ambition was to be King of All the Arabs, including those in the Levant and basically unite the Levant, Iraq and the Peninsula at least into one state.

Certainly would not have supported the establishment of Israel within the territory he felt so deeply entitled to. Maybe at best just allow the Jews to come settle within his realm and under his protection but no Israel. Plus, a guy trying to be King of all Arabs is not going to support ethnic cleansing Arabs out of the Holy Land.

He signed a treaty with the World Zionist Organization, if he had controlled Palestine he 100% would have sold out the Palestinians.
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He signed a treaty with the World Zionist Organization, if he had controlled Palestine he 100% would have sold out the Palestinians.
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Seems par for the course with him. What a delusional kalb. Wants to be King of All the Arabs and then sells Falastiin. The sheer delusion and entitlement is insane but, again, very him. Wish Ibn Saud had caught him and strangled the life out of him.
 

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