The reality of whats going on in Europe

[roble]

They absolutely hold absurd amount of power in the west. And you are right if it wasnt for their determination to change the population in the west and kill nationalism. Most Somalis wouldn't be here

then we have to be thankful to thm,,ye they have the power,kudos to thm they know their history.

 

[GoldmanSachs]

Waryaa I don't actually hate Jews. If anything we should be thankful for their influence as they made it possible for us to seek asylum in practically every Western country.

But you'd have to be blind not to notice how much power they hold over these cadaans. I'm just stating the obvious. Remember not to shoot the messenger.

You're still not getting it. The average Jewish banker/power-broker/politician is seen as white man or woman by the majority of white society. Sure a bunch of neo-Nazi basement dwellers on Stormfront might think otherwise, but by western society's general consensus they are seen as Western.


Do you really think most people will see this man as a non-white?

 

[CaliSomali]

You're still not getting it. The average Jewish banker/power-broker/politician is seen as white man or woman by the majority of white society. Sure a bunch of neo-Nazi basement dwellers on Stormfront might think otherwise, but by western society's general consensus they are seen as Western.


Do you really think most people will see this man as a non-white?

I still don't get your point. There are white Jews, Arab Jews, black (Ethiopian) Jews, etc. They come in many different colors and races. Most Jews see themselves as Jewish first, color be damned. If Jews were only supposed to be white they would have never brought in Ethiopians into Israel.

And the only reason you don't see Chinese Jews is that they haven't mixed with those people like they have with Europeans. Plus East Asian societies only find half-white Asians attractive and feature them on their shows, but they don't let anyone but pure Chinese/Japanese/Koreans run the nation. They are kinda strict like Somalis when it comes to lineage and how "pure" their blood is. That's the only reason you don't see Jews running countries like China.

 

[GoldmanSachs]

I still don't get your point. There are white Jews, Arab Jews, black (Ethiopian) Jews, etc. They come in many different colors and races. Most Jews see themselves as Jewish first, color be damned. If Jews were only supposed to be white they would have never brought in Ethiopians into Israel.

And the only reason you don't see Chinese Jews is that they haven't mixed with those people like they have with Europeans. Plus East Asian societies only find half-white Asians attractive and feature them on their shows, but they don't let anyone but pure Chinese/Japanese/Koreans run the nation. They are kinda strict like Somalis when it comes to lineage and how "pure" their blood is. That's the only reason you don't see Jews running countries like China.

How many Arab and Ethiopian Jews are in the west?



My point is there is no meaningful distinction between "white" Jews who are apart of the oligarchic class and the WASPs. These people are an integral part of high society in most Western countries and if there was an "alt-right" uprising, they would be the last to be targeted. You don't seem to get that, and that is the issue. You think all of these other cadaans are super-aware and hyper-vigilant of the "joos". Except that isn't the case as they see them now as one of them. That wasn't the case a century ago, and your using the politics and scapegoating of that era and applying it today.

 

[VixR]

You guys really think of Jews like they’re gods on earth.

 

[Gooney112]

You guys really think of Jews like they’re gods on earth.

You dont think jews has huge influence in the political spectrum in the west? Tell me why every american presidential candidate has to swear loyalty to israel while giving speech at aipac. How many other countries lobby do they give speeches to?

 

[GoldmanSachs]

You guys really think of Jews like they’re gods on earth.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that is the case. But it would be ignorant to deny the fact that for the past 70+ years, they were an instrumental part in stifling the rise of far-right neo-Nazism and nationalism across the west.

 

[VixR]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that is the case. But it would be ignorant to deny the fact that for the past 70+ years, they were an instrumental part in stifling the rise of far-right neo-Nazism and nationalism across the west.

What’s so strange about that in light of World World II and the Holocaust? And I would add that the average White person is just as loathe of the creeping of Nazi ideology into the mainstream, or did you think it was only the Jews who lost something from that history.

You dont think jews has huge influence in the political spectrum in the west? Tell me why every american presidential candidate has to swear loyalty to israel while giving speech at aipac. How many other countries lobby do they give speeches to?

Political affiliations are as old as time. There’s nothing super-extraordinary about Jews in this respect, or are you one of those who thinks there’s a deep state of Jews secretly controlling the world, simply bc of their admittedly admirable track record in producing great personalities in all kinds of fields?

 

[Gooney112]

What’s so strange about that in light of World World II and the Holocaust? And I would add that the average White person is just as loathe of the creeping of Nazi ideology into the mainstream, or did you think it was only the Jews who lost something from that history.

Political affiliations are as old as time. There’s nothing super-extraordinary about Jews in this respect, or are you one of those who thinks there’s a deep state of Jews secretly controlling the world, simply bc of their admittedly admirable track record in producing great personalities in all kinds of fields?

Lool when you choose to fully embrace liberal ideology and refuse to open your eyes on whats going on in the real world. Yeah its all coincidence that jews just happen to have massive influence in every western country, the media and the financial industry. Its just coincidence they are pro immigration in every western country, but anti immigration in their own country. I dont even think you are this naive. You just so set in your liberal ideology that you dont want to be accused of anti semitism.

 

[GoldmanSachs]

What’s so strange about that in light of World World II and the Holocaust? And I would add that the average White person is just as loathe of the creeping of Nazi ideology into the mainstream, or did you think it was only the Jews who lost something from that history.

I never said or even implied there was anything strange about that. But the mere fact that they can actively stifle the far-right every time it has attempted a resurgence suggests they, collectively, wield a great deal of influence and power that you are willing to admit.

As to whether the average white person loathes national socialism and similar ideologies, when times are rosy and everyone is prospering you may be right. But when the middle-class is disappearing, and the average white person is finding it difficult to get ahead or build a solid future, and there exists the plausible scapegoat or the "other", watch how quickly that "heil heil heil!!!" comes out.

 

[VixR]

Lool when you choose to fully embrace liberal ideology and refuse to open your eyes on whats going on in the real world. Yeah its all coincidence that jews just happen to have massive influence in every western country, the media and the financial industry. Its just coincidence they are pro immigration in every western country, but anti immigration in their own country. I dont even think you are this naive. You just so set in your liberal ideology that you dont want to be accused of anti semitism.

The Jewish have a fascinating history that is marred by prosecution, hardships, but also has many phenomenal successes. It’s interesting on its own merit, without mythologizing them into this weird “One World Order” conspiracy of ruling Jews who control your thoughts. I’m curious what else you believe....

Are they lizards? Did Bush knock down the towers for them?

 

[Cumar]

The Jewish have a fascinating history that is marred by prosecution, hardships, but also has many phenomenal successes. It’s interesting on its own merit, without mythologizing them into this weird “One World Order” conspiracy of ruling Jews who control your thoughts. I’m curious what else you believe....

Are they lizards? Did Bush knock down the towers for them?

Don't bother. A lot of people on here seem to fall for these crackpot anti-semitic global domination conspiracies.

 

[Gooney112]

The Jewish have a fascinating history that is marred by prosecution, hardship, but also many phenomenal successes. It’s interesting on its own merit, without mythologizing them into this weird “One World Order” conspiracy of ruling Jews who control your thoughts. I’m curious what else you believe....

Are they lizards? Did Bush knock down the towers for them?

Again you didnt answer my question instead choose the typical liberal route of mocking my point by exaggerating what I said. Is it just coincidence that jews have so much influence in western politics, media and financial industry? Is it coincidence the most powerful foreign lobby in america is aipac and every president has to go there and swear loyalty to them? You have any idea on whats going on in uk with jeremy corbyn and the media campaign of anti semitism they have declared on him. I honestly think you know these things deep down, but you are so desperate to be accepted by white people that you have become a follower with no independent thinking. This happens when people leave their culture and are so desperate to be accepted by others.

 

[VixR]

Again you didnt answer my question instead choose the typical liberal route of mocking my point by exaggerating what I said. Is it just coincidence that jews have so much influence in western politics, media and financial industry? Is it coincidence the most powerful foreign lobby in america is aipac and every president has to go there and swear loyalty to them? You have any idea on whats going on in uk with jeremy corbyn and the media campaign of anti semitism they have declared on him. I honestly think you know these things deep down, but you are so desperate to be accepted by white people that you have become a follower with no independent thinking. This happens when people leave their culture and are so desperate to be accepted by others.

Accepting Jewish conspiracy theories on no evidence is part of Somali culture? I have news for you. Those conspiracies are thought up by some bitter fringe of anti-semetic White ppl on the corners of the internet, and it appeals to you bc of general disdain for the Jews that is taught to you.

It’s like you and I went down the same pre-teen YT rabbithole on Jews (the perennial scapegoat) and the so-called “New World Order”, except you never bothered to come out the other end. And the idea that strategic political affiliations like AIPAC are some sort of mystery would be demystified if you look up the history of AIPAC and the US, who weren’t always of aligned interest.

 

[VixR]

I never said or even implied there was anything strange about that. But the mere fact that they can actively stifle the far-right every time it has attempted a resurgence suggests they, collectively, wield a great deal of influence and power that you are willing to admit.

As to whether the average white person loathes national socialism and similar ideologies, when times are rosy and everyone is prospering you may be right. But when the middle-class is disappearing, and the average white person is finding it difficult to get ahead or build a solid future, and there exists the plausible scapegoat or the "other", watch how quickly that "heil heil heil!!!" comes out.

I don’t disagree with the last paragraph, but the first? If you think of history as a pendulum swing, the post WWII response to anti-semetism in Europe, after Hitler’s failed antics gone berserk and other related events, and European countries having suffered brutally against the allies and themselves, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that anti-semetism is widely denounced and even prosecuted by law to an extent, principally in countries like Germany, and in most European countries secondarily.

That’s not to say there aren’t fringes in their societies that persist, but to imply a Jewish super-force is what’s keeping nazism at bay is misguided, seeing as the average European person is scared of the shadow of anti-semitism and its fallen out of favor as an ideology much as any one thing can. And even with these so-called neonazis, the “others” they are often referring to are immigrants of various origins, not as much Jews who’ve blended into the landscape.

 

[Gooney112]

Accepting Jewish conspiracy theories on no evidence is part of Somali culture? I have news for you. Those conspiracies are thought up by some bitter fringe of anti-semetic White ppl on the corners of the internet, and it appeals to you bc of general disdain for the Jews that is taught to you.

It’s like you and I went down the same pre-teen YT rabbithole on Jews (the perennial scapegoat) and the so-called “New World Order”, except you never bothered to come out the other end. And the idea that strategic political affiliations like AIPAC are some sort of mystery would be demystified if you look up the history of AIPAC and the US, who weren’t always of aligned interest.

I dont know what evidence you are looking for. The real world and how it works is my evidence. I love your comment about Aipac. I need to look up its history. Like all you done is called me and somalis believers of jew conspiriscy. But you havent explained how such small nation and people have so much power in the west. How American presidents has to swear loyalty to them., how influential they are in everything in the west. I seen people who hate where they come from and decided to submit to a whole new culture, usually these people become followers like drones and lose the ability to critical thinking.

 

[VixR]

I dont know what evidence you are looking for. The real world and how it works is my evidence. I love your comment about Aipac. I need to look up its history. Like all you done is called me and somalis believers of jew conspiriscy. But you havent explained how such small nation and people have so much power in the west. How American presidents has to swear loyalty to them., how influential they are in everything in the west. I seen people who hate where they come from and decided to submit to a whole new culture, usually these people become followers like drones and lose the ability to critical thinking.

Oh please, don’t bring that around to me. You’re the one who as much as said not buying into these whack Jewish conspiracies means I’m desparate to be excepted by White liberals. I simply flipped your description and asked if it was part of Somali culture to accept it?

Dude, I listened to the same videos you did. But you know what happened next? Fact-checking. Look up AIPAC. And look into the history of US, and why we changed trajectory from being misaligned to aligned up to now. Hint: Russia.

 

[Gooney112]

Oh please, don’t bring that around to me. You’re the one who as much as said not buying into these whack Jewish conspiracies means I’m desparate to be excepted by White liberals. I simply flipped your description and asked if it was part of Somali culture to accept it?

Dude, I listened to the same videos you did. But you know what happened next? Fact-checking. Look up AIPAC. And look into the history of US, and why we changed trajectory from being misaligned to aligned up to now. Hint: Russia.

So us-israel align is based on threat from russia? It has nothing to do with people from jewish backgrounds infiltrating the governments of the west and caping for Israel behind the scenes? Jews dont hire and promote other jews when on top....they all just happen to get there on merit? You are beyond naive and have been brainwashed by liberals.

 

[GoldmanSachs]

I don’t disagree with the last paragraph, but the first? If you think of history as a pendulum swing, the post WWII response to anti-semetism in Europe, after Hitler’s failed antics gone berserk and other related events, and European countries having suffered brutally against the allies and themselves, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that anti-semetism is widely denounced and even prosecuted by law to an extent, principally in countries like Germany, and in most European countries secondarily.

That’s not to say there aren’t fringes in their societies that persist, but to imply a Jewish super-force is what’s keeping nazism at bay is misguided, seeing as the average European person is scared of the shadow of anti-semitism and its fallen out of favor as an ideology much as any one thing can. And even with these so-called neonazis, the “others” they are often referring to are immigrants of various origins, not as much Jews who’ve blended into the landscape.

And that is exactly what I was saying. Jews are essentially apart of the fabric of white society in most western countries today, which is in direct contrast to how they were viewed a century ago. If there is an alt-right resurgence in many of these countries, Jews will be safe. I was trying to convey this to that other girl who was trying to bifurcate Jews from mainstream white society like many Neo-Nazis attempt.

You really do love to argue for the sake of arguing, don't you? Buuq iyo balaayo.

 

[VixR]

So us-israel align is based on threat from russia? It has nothing to do with people from jewish backgrounds infiltrating the governments of the west and caping for Israel behind the scenes? Jews dont hire and promote other jews when on top....they all just happen to get there on merit? You are beyond naive and have been brainwashed by liberals.

So nepotism and chasing ones interests are some kind of Jewish phenomenon? That literally happens practically everywhere, even on the company level. Just look around. How many lobbies and campaign finance pulls do you think exist in the US?

The mere and networking is not a buffer for your whack conspiracy, and so far you’ve produced nothing to support your position except that they exist. More to that point, your views are home to fundies and tin foil hat brigades, not the mainstream Conservative party, and likewise Liberals hold no such position.