The real cause of famine in Somalia: Aid workers

[bluebird]

The aid workers have a vested interest in African countries remaining poor so it wouldn’t come as a shock to me if they did everything in their power to keep it poor, including stopping any efforts to prevent famine and droughts (like grain storage)

I did a little research and found this article

https://www.researchgate.net/public...und_storage_pits_in_Somalia_and_their_control


Seven species of stored grain pests were found infesting underground storage pits “bakars” in the Bay Region of Somalia. These species and their relative abundance (%) in “bakars” are as follows: Alphitobius laevigatus (Fabricius) (Coleoptera, Tenebrionidae) (3.7%), Palorus subdepressus (Wollaston) (6.1%), Tribolium castaneum (Herbst) (29.2%); Rhizopertha dominica (Fabricius) (Bostrichidae) (23.9%); Sitophilus oryzae (Linneaeus) (Curculionidae) (4.7%); Cryptolestes ferrugineus (Stephens) (Cucujidae) (32.4%); Sitotroga cerealella Oliver (Lepidoptera, Gelechiidae) (unsampled). The mean percentage damage by insects for the region was 10.4 and by rats was 8.4 for sorghum grain stored as heads in 100 “bakars”. Actellic, K-Othrine and Malathion, applied as a 2% dust to threshed durra sorghum grain stored in sacks above ground, provided 99.2, 99.5 and 94.5% control, respectively.

After looking up the insects I found that a lot of them were native to Europe and North America not Africa, so what are they doing in a crop storage in Bay, Somalia?

If you look at the map of Aid distribution you’ll see Bay is a hotspot for aid even though they’re predominately farmers and have fertile land

 

[Ras]

The pest thing is just mainly negligence. That would be too obvious of a conspiracy.

They mainly hurt us by by offering aid in the first place.

Free food leads to millions of Africans not having to solve their own problems.

Why change your ways when whitey would swoop in and save you whenever there's a drought?

 

[Exodus]

The reason for droughts and famine is due to Somalia being a backward shithole where the inhabitants have a mindset that would even be considered divisive for the 1500’s.

 

[bluebird]

The pest thing is just mainly negligence. That would be too obvious of a conspiracy.

They mainly hurt us by by offering aid in the first place.

Free food leads to millions of Africans not having to solve their own problems.

Why change your ways when whitey would swoop in and save you whenever there's a drought?

I find it strange that their are foreign crop bugs, bugs don’t usually leave their natural habitat unless they are introduced into a new environment by humans. I don’t believe it just happened. They get so much aid esp for the regions that have bantus/rahanweyn because they get to use the displaced minority card

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

I find it strange that their are foreign crop bugs, bugs don’t usually leave their natural habitat unless they are introduced into a new environment by humans. I don’t believe it just happened. They get so much aid esp for the regions that have bantus/rahanweyn because they get to use the displaced minority card

Well those pests could've travelled from traded goods that passed through NA and Europe or thorugh humnas that visited Somalia from foreign places. You'll need more evidence for what you're saying.

 

[Ras]

I find it strange that their are foreign crop bugs, bugs don’t usually leave their natural habitat unless they are introduced into a new environment by humans. I don’t believe it just happened. They get so much aid esp for the regions that have bantus/rahanweyn because they get to use the displaced minority card

They cheap out by buying from lazy incompetent suppliers who neglect basic QC processes.

When you're packaging up millions of tons of cheap shitty leftover food stored in high moisture silos in the West you should expect this to happen.

 

[Yukon_Niner]

The reason for droughts and famine is due to Somalia being a backward shithole where the inhabitants have a mindset that would even be considered divisive for the 1500’s.

The reason for droughts is because of a populations mindset. Are you by any chance mentally challenged?

 

[Exodus]

The reason for droughts is because of a populations mindset. Are you by any chance mentally challenged?

Nice ad hominem.

A populations mindset determines the actions that they’ll take during certain situations, in our case, the civil war was a chance for outdated clan rivalries to rear it’s ugly head and a chance for these traitors (clan elders) to take control of their own little shitholes and wave a giant middle finger to the bigger picture, which is Somalia as a whole. This delayed response allowed for Al-Shabab to take as much control as it did. Even today, outside of Xamar, how much land does the Government control?

The fact there’s atleast 5 presidents in one country tells you how divided they are, a divided country means divided resources and manpower, which in turn severely increases the casualties of any famines as it decreases the ability of the country being able to respond to any disasters.

 

[bluebird]

Well those pests could've travelled from traded goods that passed through NA and Europe or thorugh humnas that visited Somalia from foreign places. You'll need more evidence for what you're saying.

yeah I’ll be doing further research but I’m convinced

 

[Misil]

The practices of these NGOs is well known. Every time there's a great harvest and local produce is good, they drum up stories about millions being in need of food or how a dire humanitarian circumstance is about to take place. This year is no different.

I've spoken to my peeps in Bay and they tell me this year's produce is the best in a couple of years. Both sides of my family own large plots of farmland in the northern and western areas of baay. Both say the same thing; camels and cattles are healthier and more numerous than ever before and more importantly, the crop yield is fucking great.

rahanweyn because they get to use the displaced minority card

 

[Crow]

The practices of these NGOs is well known. Every time there's a great harvest and local produce is good, they drum up stories about millions being in need of food or how a dire humanitarian circumstance is about to take place. This year is no different.

I've spoken to my peeps in Bay and they tell me this year's produce is the best in a couple of years. Both sides of my family own large plots of farmland in the northern and western areas of baay. Both say the same thing; camels and cattles are healthier and more numerous than ever before and more importantly, the crop yield is fucking great.

Are you RX? Have you received a welcome from your Suldaan @Jiron yet?

 

[bluebird]

The practices of these NGOs is well known. Every time there's a great harvest and local produce is good, they drum up stories about millions being in need of food or how a dire humanitarian circumstance is about to take place. This year is no different.

I've spoken to my peeps in Bay and they tell me this year's produce is the best in a couple of years. Both sides of my family own large plots of farmland in the northern and western areas of baay. Both say the same thing; camels and cattles are healthier and more numerous than ever before and more importantly, the crop yield is fucking great.

Hey I’m not saying there displaced or minorities lol I meant that’s the way the cadaan charlatans talk about them

 

[bluebird]

Are you RX? Have you received a welcome from your Suldaan @Jiron yet?

I don’t even thing jiron ever said he was rahanweyn I’m pretty sure someone jokingly said it because of his calm demeanor and the others ran with it

 

[Crow]

I don’t even thing jiron ever said he was rahanweyn I’m pretty sure someone jokingly said it because of his calm demeanor and the others ran with it

In his two years on this forum, all he has ever written were short one or two line comments signed with that creepy smile - except for one time. That time was when Robow was arrested by Ethiopians on behalf of the FGS. He wrote a very long post, in support of the FGS, but still.

For someone who isn't very active in the politics section and who doesn't usually write a lot, it really stood out.

 

[AussieHustler]

Who wrote this report? Do you really believe it? I’ve never read such a hogwash for a long time. Do you know how much it takes one to protect their animals and plants from foreign pests and diseases? Do you know how easy it is for pests and diseases to cross borders? Does Somalia has a department that deals with it?

Australia spends billions of dollars to control its borders from foreign pests and plant and animal diseases, even you’re not allowed to bring fruit from other states while travelling to a another state within Australia. Why didn’t these so called NGO’s poison the Somali livestock?

what about the destruction to our trees and the charcoal export trade? How about overgrazing?

 

[bluebird]

Who wrote this report? Do you really believe it? I’ve never read such a hogwash for a long time. Do you know how much it takes one to protect their animals and plants from foreign pests and diseases? Do you know how easy it is for pests and diseases to cross borders? Does Somalia has a department that deals with it?

Australia spends billions of dollars to control its borders from foreign pests and plant and animal diseases, even you’re not allowed to bring fruit from other states while travelling to a another state within Australia. Why didn’t these so called NGO’s poison the Somali livestock?

what about the destruction to our trees and the charcoal export trade? How about overgrazing?

Are you on someone’s payroll cause your sounding a little too heated. I never see you get this worked up unless something hit a nerve...

 

[AussieHustler]

Are you on someone’s payroll cause your sounding a little too heated. I never see you get this worked up unless something hit a nerve...

@SilverL

sorry dear, I’m allergic to stupidity and with Somalis and their conspiracies. What’s next? The cabal is why Somalia is in civil war? I heard it so many times. Let’s deal with the facts.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

The reasons why there are famines in Somalia are first a lack of security, and second 3% population growth. The EU and US have kept millions of Somalis alive over the past 30 years, to blame them for famine in Somalia is disgusting. Alshabab’s insurgency has limited trade flows across southern Somalia, raising the costs of basic essentials. Even if KG’s Gu harvest fails, there should not be a famine. Baydhabo is less than 200 km from Mogadishu, grain from Mogadishu would flood Baydhabo were it not for Alshabab’s road blocks, and Hawiye NGO corruption.

 

[Misil]

Are you RX? Have you received a welcome from your Suldaan @Jiron yet?

Yh g I'm mirifle

I don’t even thing jiron ever said he was rahanweyn I’m pretty sure someone jokingly said it because of his calm demeanor and the others ran with it

His name is a sub clan of siyeed mirifle, I'd be very surprised if he wasn't one

 

[bluebird]

@SilverL

sorry dear, I’m allergic to stupidity and with Somalis and their conspiracies. What’s next? The cabal is why Somalia is in civil war? I heard it so many times. Let’s deal with the facts.

You gotta use your head once in a while my friend, think logically what all these agencies get from “feeding” people and if it’s in good will why do they a.) pay themselves so much and b.) with all the aid they collect wouldn’t it be of more benefit to support local farmers and give that food to the poor ? Help the so called starving people find ways to store grains/water and prepare for future famines? Why do they just come in claim that millions are starving and bring in some corn pellets and expired food? Big businesses get tax breaks by donating old food, the aid agencies get government funding and donations from people like you, and the government gets one more country in poverty to steal resources from win-win-win for everyone except the somali people.