The race for post -Hirshabelle Liberation started

[The Midlands]

We should get two mps one from saakow and the other from Jilib(Hoombooy xl and Dir)





This is 1931 Yusuf samatalis ombi (hoombooy)


We are waiting the SNA landing at Jilib to join macawisleyda Jubada dhexe

 

[The Midlands]

The last one. AUADLLE Yusuf samatalis ombi 1931 jilib. Italy used to know us as Pre-Hawiye wich means Samaale awrmale is in this Pre Hawiye list others are part of D&M now

 

[Abaq]

I blame Madobe for this. He had the audacity to allow yaryars any seats at all in the first place. If he had shown GJ and another yaryars the door, we wouldn’t have a XL claim Jubbaland today. Tollaay, Alla muxuu na gumeeyay

 

[The Midlands]

I blame Madobe for this. He had the audacity to allow yaryars any seats at all in the first place. If he had shown GJ and another yaryars the door, we wouldn’t have a XL claim Jubbaland today. Tollaay, Alla muxuu na gumeeyay

It is a region where all Somali tribes live so there is no need to deny our rights. Indeed, we were bigger than that before the 1991 war as we had a good presence in Gedo but we left it before SNF recapture Gedo for fear of repression. If you refuse it we will use Hassan Sheikh Govt to force it!
Former Hirshabelle president Ali Osobles grandfather met his Cabdi Yusuf ayeeyo in Baardheere in 1930s

 

[Bowda-dheer]

I blame Madobe for this. He had the audacity to allow yaryars any seats at all in the first place. If he had shown GJ and another yaryars the door, we wouldn’t have a XL claim Jubbaland today. Tollaay, Alla muxuu na gumeeyay

2-3 xildhibaan is nothing bro hirshabele gave clans that don’t live there xildhibaan and wasiiro like dagoodi. These clans are minority of the minority they can mot militarily fight you without outside clans coming in.

 

[Macawisley]

2-3 xildhibaan is nothing bro hirshabele gave clans that don’t live there xildhibaan and wasiiro like dagoodi. These clans are minority of the minority they can mot militarily fight you without outside clans coming in.

Hirshabelle is a joke bro all of that will be reformed.

 

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@The Midlands When is the balan for Xawaadle and Hiraab mps?

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Hirshabelle is a joke bro all of that will be reformed.

Big joke

 

[The Midlands]

@The Midlands When is the balan for Xawaadle and Hiraab mps?

This was part of the Addis Ababa agreement between Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh in 2013-2014, an unwritten agreement that was left for the reconciliation that was stated in it but it was not implemented for two reasons: the conflict with the former pm abdiwali Sheikh(Yuulka) it fucked up the process so Farah Abdulkadir only cared about a Shiikhal co-vice president and forgot the rest and madobe is Machiavelli he ditched Yuulka who wanted to lead the reconciliation without Farah Abdulkadir. Farah Abdulkadir , then wasiirka Gudaha goodax and the Ethiopian Gabre arranged a quick reconciliation with Abdi Shire, Maxmuud sayid and Lugadheere
The other reason was bc of the elections Madobe distanced himself from PL in the Kismaayo conference and he supported to keep the 4.5 system unlike PL who wanted to be based on districts all this happened at the expense of the supposed extra Hawiye seats. Hassan Sh told Madobe now to restore back that heshiis if he wants Gedo. Only Shiikhaal and Gaaljecel have each three seats other Hawiyes will be included in the new reconciliation and hawadle is one of them.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

This was part of the Addis Ababa agreement between Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh in 2013-2014, an unwritten agreement that was left for the reconciliation that was stated in it but it was not implemented for two reasons: the conflict with the former pm abdiwali Sheikh(Yuulka) it fucked up the process so Farah Abdulkadir only cared about a Shiikhal co-vice president and forgot the rest and madobe is Machiavelli he ditched Yuulka who wanted to lead the reconciliation without Farah Abdulkadir. Farah Abdulkadir , then wasiirka Gudaha goodax and the Ethiopian Gabre arranged a quick reconciliation with Abdi Shire, Maxmuud sayid and Lugadheere
The other reason was bc of the elections Madobe distanced himself from PL in the Kismaayo conference and he supported to keep the 4.5 system unlike PL who wanted to be based on districts all this happened at the expense of the supposed extra Hawiye seats. Hassan Sh told Madobe now to restore back that heshiis if he wants Gedo. Only Shiikhaal and Gaaljecel have each three seats other Hawiyes will be included in the new reconciliation and hawadle is one of them.

For some reason any Hawiye allied tribes are not liked In jubaland. USC and walalaha galgadud did some dirty stuff in jubooyinka. The few xawaadle in sakow are not reero dagaal and are unarmed. They would need to show some buuq but it would be the raxanweyn macalinweyne and geelidle that own the north of the river who’s armed to the teeth they will deal with rather than any OG. We love south of the river and all our villages are in the south of the river. One xildhibaan wouldn’t hurt like hirshabeele did with the dagoodi who don’t have numbers in there. Jubaland has like 75 mps compared to hirshabeles 200 hhhh.

 

[The Midlands]

For some reason any Hawiye allied tribes are not liked In jubaland. USC and walalaha galgadud did some dirty stuff in jubooyinka. The few xawaadle in sakow are not reero dagaal and are unarmed. They would need to show some buuq but it would be the raxanweyn macalinweyne and geelidle that own the north of the river who’s armed to the teeth they will deal with rather than any OG. We love south of the river and all our villages are in the south of the river. One xildhibaan wouldn’t hurt like hirshabeele did with the dagoodi who don’t have numbers in there. Jubaland has like 75 mps compared to hirshabeles 200 hhhh.

We r not few reero also hawadle adeero live in Jubada dhexe. Liked r not liked no one can't deni their existence and rights in this place this is not like the 90s there must be State loo dhan yahay. اعطى كل شى حق قدره
Any clan who lives in Hirshabelle must have representation. Hawadle was not part of Hirshabelle foundation wich originally had 70 mps they gave us 14 seats and Abgaal 15 seats, Gaaljecel 6, Gugundhabe 6 then bc of the election corruption they made it 90 and added 6 to Gaaljecel, added Jiidle from Ethiopia, Degodia and Ajuran from Kenya, 2 murusade bc the guy who was responsible for Hirshabelle Yahye hareeri was murusade he was xooghayaha wasaarada gudaha still not added shit for Hawadle and Abgaal so we gonna correct this either to go back to the original 70 or add more 18 for Abgaal and Hawadle that was allocated for women(kuraas kor loo hayo)

 

[Removed]

This was part of the Addis Ababa agreement between Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh in 2013-2014, an unwritten agreement that was left for the reconciliation that was stated in it but it was not implemented for two reasons: the conflict with the former pm abdiwali Sheikh(Yuulka) it fucked up the process so Farah Abdulkadir only cared about a Shiikhal co-vice president and forgot the rest and madobe is Machiavelli he ditched Yuulka who wanted to lead the reconciliation without Farah Abdulkadir. Farah Abdulkadir , then wasiirka Gudaha goodax and the Ethiopian Gabre arranged a quick reconciliation with Abdi Shire, Maxmuud sayid and Lugadheere
The other reason was bc of the elections Madobe distanced himself from PL in the Kismaayo conference and he supported to keep the 4.5 system unlike PL who wanted to be based on districts all this happened at the expense of the supposed extra Hawiye seats. Hassan Sh told Madobe now to restore back that heshiis if he wants Gedo. Only Shiikhaal and Gaaljecel have each three seats other Hawiyes will be included in the new reconciliation and hawadle is one of them.

Save me the vomit I wanted a date.

 

[The Midlands]

Save me the vomit I wanted a date.

i already Stated it "other Hawiyes will be included in the new reconciliation and hawadle is one of them" New reconciliation: part of Gedo deal.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

We r not few reero also hawadle adeero live in Jubada dhexe. Liked r not liked no one can't deni their existence and rights in this place this is not like the 90s there must be State loo dhan yahay. اعطى كل شى حق قدره
Any clan who lives in Hirshabelle must have representation. Hawadle was not part of Hirshabelle foundation wich originally had 70 mps they gave us 14 seats and Abgaal 15 seats, Gaaljecel 6, Gugundhabe 6 then bc of the election corruption they made it 90 and added 6 to Gaaljecel, added Jiidle from Ethiopia, Degodia and Ajuran from Kenya, 2 murusade bc the guy who was responsible for Hirshabelle Yahye hareeri was murusade he was xooghayaha wasaarada gudaha still not added shit for Hawadle and Abgaal so we gonna correct this either to go back to the original 70 or add more 18 for Abgaal and Hawadle that was allocated for women(kuraas kor loo hayo)

If you can’t defend yourself sxb Hawiye is not gonna help you it’s gonna make it worse. Like the galjecel and shekhaal who are not allowed any senators or important positions. Xawaadle live peacefully with gelidle and Macalinwyne not even with OG the north of the river is raxanweyn tuulos south is OG tuuloz. The city of saakow is very peaceful and located in the north of the river in rxwny territory but with 4 neighborhoods OG gelidle macalinweyne and xawaadle.Am sympathic with xawaadle for a lot of reasons they’re in the middle of a bunch of hating clans who want to diminish their influence they are currently fighting shabab as the only clan. but I just don’t like how hag dabada kuwadatiin. We fought xawaadle in bakool and qalaafe for wars that have no business for them they join it for OG naceeyb I remember when bahgeri pushed the reer bare and the whole Hawiye saw it as a good chance and attacked with with Xawaadle Madowweyne hg jijeele and all yar yar.

 

[The Midlands]

If you can’t defend yourself sxb Hawiye is not gonna help you it’s gonna make it worse. Like the galjecel and shekhaal who are not allowed any senators or important positions. Xawaadle live peacefully with gelidle and Macalinwyne not even with OG the north of the river is raxanweyn tuulos south is OG tuuloz. The city of saakow is very peaceful and located in the north of the river in rxwny territory but with 4 neighborhoods OG gelidle macalinweyne and xawaadle.Am sympathic with xawaadle for a lot of reasons they’re in the middle of a bunch of hating clans who want to diminish their influence they are currently fighting shabab as the only clan. but I just don’t like how hag dabada kuwadatiin. We fought xawaadle in bakool and qalaafe for wars that have no business for them they join it for OG naceeyb I remember when bahgeri pushed the reer bare and the whole Hawiye saw it as a good chance and attacked with with Xawaadle Madowweyne hg jijeele and all yar yar.

its not just saakow its the whole jubba river just like Shabelle id divides the clans from dolow and luuq. HAWIYE AND DIGIL IYO MIRIFLE ONE SIDE. RED HAWIYE except CAABDUWAAQ SIDE BUT THEY ADDED IT FOR A SECOND MAAMULGOBOLEED. FINALLY WE ARE SMARTER THAN GAALJECEL AND CAWRAMALE WHO LIVE DEEP IN SOUTH OF KISMAAYO IN THE MIDDLE OF DAAROOD WE ALWEYS STAY IN A NEUTRAL LAND LIKE HALFWAY BETWEEN JILIB AND KISMAAYO AN AREA OF GAALJECEL CAWRAMALE DIR LIKE JAMAAME CLOSEST DAAROOD WERE HARTI DAAROOD WHO WERE CLAIMING CAWRAMALE BUT WHEN USC ARRIVED THERE THEY FLED TO KISMAAYO AS CAWRAMALE JOINED IT

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS GEDO WE MOVED TO THEIR NEXT DOOR DEGODIA AND BAKOOL

NO ONE CAN TARGET US IN JUBADA DHEXE OR SAAKOW AND JILIB. IF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT PUTTING GEDO UNDER YOUR SECURITY WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HAWIYE AND DIGIL IYO MIRIFLE SIDE? IN GEDO TALIYAASHA CIIDAMADA WILL BE FREE FROM JL SAME WILL GO FOR JUBADA DHEXE. NO JL daraawiish IN BOTH REGIONS. HASSAN SHEIKH GOVT WILL ARM US AND WE WILL RUN THE SECURITY. JL WILL JUST APPOINT THE OFFICIALS IN COORDINATION WITH THE GOVT. HASSAN SHEIKH HAS FINISHED HAWIYE NEXT IS JUBADA DHEXE AFTER FACE 4 WICH IS WEST HIRSHABELLE AND BAY. LOWER SHABELLE COASTAL OPERATION IN JILIB MARKA WILL SPREAD TO JILIB JUBADA DHEXE BEFORE THE SUMMER

QALAAFE WAR WAS PART OF THE USC WAR IN EARLY 90S BAHGARI ATTACKED JIIDLE IN QALAAFE AND HAWADLE AND HG RESPONDED IT. IM OUT!.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

its not just saakow its the whole jubba river just like Shabelle id divides the clans from dolow and luuq. HAWIYE AND DIGIL IYO MIRIFLE ONE SIDE. RED HAWIYE except CAABDUWAAQ SIDE BUT THEY ADDED IT FOR A SECOND MAAMULGOBOLEED. FINALLY WE ARE SMARTER THAN GAALJECEL AND CAWRAMALE WHO LIVE DEEP IN SOUTH OF KISMAAYO IN THE MIDDLE OF DAAROOD WE ALWEYS STAY IN A NEUTRAL LAND LIKE HALFWAY BETWEEN JILIB AND KISMAAYO AN AREA OF GAALJECEL CAWRAMALE DIR LIKE JAMAAME CLOSEST DAAROOD WERE HARTI DAAROOD WHO WERE CLAIMING CAWRAMALE BUT WHEN USC ARRIVED THERE THEY FLED TO KISMAAYO AS CAWRAMALE JOINED IT

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS GEDO WE MOVED TO THEIR NEXT DOOR DEGODIA AND BAKOOL

NO ONE CAN TARGET US IN JUBADA DHEXE OR SAAKOW AND JILIB. IF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT PUTTING GEDO UNDER YOUR SECURITY WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HAWIYE AND DIGIL IYO MIRIFLE SIDE? IN GEDO TALIYAASHA CIIDAMADA WILL BE FREE FRPM JL SAME WILL GO FOR JUBADA DHEXE. HASSAN SHEIKH GOVT WILL ARM US AND WE WILL RUN THE SECURITY. JL WILL JUST APPOINT THE OFFICIALS IN COORDINATION WITH THE GOVT. HASSAN SHEIKH HAS FINISHED HAWIYE NEXT IS JUBADA DHEXE AFTER FACE 4 WICH IS WEST HIRSHABELLE AND BAY. LOWER SHABELLE COASTAL OPERATION IN JILIB MARKA WILL SPREAD TO JILIB JUBADA DHEXE BEFORE THE SUMMER

QALAAFE WAR WAS PART OF THE USC WAR IN EARLY 90S BAHGARI ATTACKED JIIDLE IN QALAAFE AND HAWADLE AND HG RESPONDED IT. IM OUT!.

who is Hassan sheikh going to arm you against when you saakow is in the lands of Gelidle and macalinweyne these guys are not like geledi and begedi of afgoye they’re armed to the teeth. You’ll ruin it big time for the peaceful xawaadle folks who live in the middle of raxanweyn ocean.