The need to merge Islam and Somalinimo into ethnoreligious identity

[government]

That's true, wallahi. I'm not even arguing that Arabs are immune to valuing their countries over their religion, because they definitely aren't. However, if we as an ummah can learn to stop thinking about our tribes and countries and start focus on unting as Muslims and only Muslims, wallahi we could be a world super power.

Exactly unfortunately nationalism is a disease that is spread around the Muslim world just like Somalis hate arabs the arabs hate Turks Turks hate arabs persians hate both its messed up

 

[government]

That time Arabs where kicked out the Turks ruled
The Turks where the ones fighting the Christians the seljuqs fought them and the kurdish sallahudin who succeeded the zengids who were also turks

And liberated Jerusalem
Since 850 until 1920 turks ruled and united the ummah while the Arabs destroyed it

It wasn't Turks it was muslims sxb muslims took back Jerusalem why are you trying to divide Islamic history into groups

 

[Ugaaso]

@Samaalic Era , are you Suufi?

 

[Eisenstein]

This merger will preserve Somalinimo while routing out the Arab scourge erroding our identity and language. We must even lie and alter early Islamic history and make sure that our conversion story is directly from the Prophet pbuh and not through the Sahaba. We must invent a story about the Somali language and its purity as well as establish,modify and Islamify Xeer to be Second after the Qur'an.
also we must invent Somali saints dating back to the Prophet pbuh and teach about them instead of the Caliphate as the true heirs of the Prophet and thus establish a new school of thought that is separate from Arabia and is Somali and then spread it to the world.

This is the only path left. Every nation has its own dirty secrets that must remain hidden

Send me the memo when you start this. I'll be one of the early adopters.

 

[Samaalic Era]

@Samaalic Era , are you Suufi?

No

 

[Kratos]

Lol some of our ancestors already tried this by lying and saying that we wuz banu hashim. Little did they know how easy it would be to disprove it using DNA analysis a few centuries later. No need to lie mate, the truth will eventually reveal itself. Besides, isn't it haram to lie?

 

[kickz]

Then that Arab history has to be deleted in order to protect Somalinimo. All it takes is for an Arab to say the Qur'an is Arabic to make people drop their native language when Allah swt said in the Qur'an he made us into nations and tribes

Sxb this is plain ludicrous

This is not a zero sum game, you can preserve Somalinimo and not make up history.

 

[911]

It’s not just Somalis in Somalia that think being religious = arab bootyclapping. If you go on muslim twitter all the Somali accounts there are hardcore arab bootyclappers. Their dp’s are always some arab sheikh or historical figure and they tweet about arab history more than their own.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Lol some of our ancestors already tried this by lying and saying that we wuz banu hashim. Little did they know how easy it would be to disprove it using DNA analysis a few centuries later. No need to lie mate, the truth will eventually reveal itself. Besides, isn't it haram to lie?

Those were outrageous lies. We need to alter history to our favor and then bury the truth @kickz

 

[Samaalic Era]

It’s not just Somalis in Somalia that think being religious = arab bootyclapping. If you go on muslim twitter all the Somali accounts there are hardcore arab bootyclappers. Their dp’s are always some arab sheikh or historical figure and they tweet about arab history more than their own.

Unless we remove the Arab element from deen, we always be bootyclapping for Arabs

 

[911]

Unless we remove the Arab element from deen, we always be bootyclapping for Arabs

Somalis need to realize the arabs of today have nothing to do with the arabs of the Prophets time
Bootyclapping for them doesn’t give you ajar

 

[Puffin Stuff]

Arabs are a joke man
So broken and split into hundreds of different clans and countries it’s looking like the future of somaliland if we don’t include the HY
An Arab in Morocco and a Arab in Saudi barely have anything in common but dean and the mother tongue.
Malaysians and Indonesians are already dominating them economically and deen wise
The turks and Persians are so far ahead it’s not even a competition

 

[Samaalic Era]

Arabs are a joke man
So broken and split into hundreds of different clans and countries it’s looking like the future of somaliland if we don’t include the HY
An Arab in Morocco and a Arab in Saudi barely have anything in common but dean and the mother tongue.
Malaysians and Indonesians are already dominating them economically and deen wise
The turks and Persians are so far ahead it’s not even a competition

Despite that, they still pose a dangerous threat to Somalis who look upto to them after all the crimes they committed against us

 

[911]

Despite that, they still pose a dangerous threat to Somalis who look upto to them after all the crimes they committed against us

What crimes did they commit against us?

 

[roble]

its been merged for 1400yrs and didnt work out. next?

 

[Samaalic Era]

What crimes did they commit against us?

In Libya and Yemen. There are horrific accounts of how Somalis were treated.

I hope Yemen and Libya burn to the ground and we take revenge against them

 

[Samaalic Era]

its been merged for 1400yrs and didnt work out. next?

It hasnt actually. I mean like how Jews are

 

[911]

In Libya and Yemen. There are horrific accounts of how Somalis were treated.

I hope Yemen and Libya burn to the ground and we take revenge against them

What did they do in Yemen
I thought Yemenis are good people

 

[Kodeen]

Then that Arab history has to be deleted in order to protect Somalinimo. All it takes is for an Arab to say the Qur'an is Arabic to make people drop their native language when Allah swt said in the Qur'an he made us into nations and tribes

You're asking for a group of Muslims to NOT learn about Islamic history in order to protect 'Somalinimo' as if being a Muslim impedes on it.

We've been aware the Quran has been written in Arabic over a thousand years, yet somehow you're worried that we might now drop our native language?

I need specifics because I suspect this comes down to what it always comes down to, jilbaabs and niqaabs. Political influence aside, what worrying elements of Arab influence is there on Somali culture?

 

[Kodeen]

What did they do in Yemen
I thought Yemenis are good people

Lots of Somali refugees were abused at the hands of Yemenis. There was a case of a refugee hold sponsored by the UN and managed by the Yemenis where they sexual abused Somali children and typical desert n1gg3r shit.

It's more than fair to say we as a collective have treated them better than they have us.