The f*ck going on in Ethiopia

[Zak12]

This war in ethiopia is longer than any Somali war. These negros been fight before Said Bare was in office. Its nearly 60 civil war in ethiopia. Ask yourself this one question if you dont agree why is there more ethiopian in the west more than Somali's?

They have been fighting for over 60 years actually. The country has been having civil wars and major social upheavals since 1961. Haile Selassie was just that hated

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

African Total War : Abyssinia (in real life)

 

[Gaandheri]

No way the Syrian civil that has been raging since 2011 has killed 500k your telling me Tigray/Amhara/Oromo war has killed more?

 

[Flightboi]

International media rarely reports negatively on Ethiopia. Mainly because they’re not Muslim.

The Ethiopian government also works hard to limit access by foreign media to their hotspots. They control the narrative unlike our government which allows elderly women to be lined up for pictures in the hot sun by “aid agencies” for some oil and flour.

Somali's have to stop going to the media bruh. Going to the media almost always draws negative attention.

 

[wheel]

They have been fighting for over 60 years actually. The country has been having civil wars and major social upheavals since 1961. Haile Selassie was just that hated

50s there was the woyane war, 40s - ww2, 30s - italian invasion, etc. Problems never end in this corner of africa.

 

[Flightboi]

They have been fighting for over 60 years actually. The country has been having civil wars and major social upheavals since 1961. Haile Selassie was just that hated

You think Abiy can bring an permanent end to these civil wars? He would probably need like 2000 Drones to do it. Mengistu if I'm correct back in 1991 had only like 20-30 fighter jets. Military Drones are way cheaper than fighter jets. Chinese Military Drones cost 1 million USD per drone while 1 fighter jet is between 30-40 Million USD. Drones imo can end civil wars in large enough numbers. If only the government has drones. Drones also bring zero risk to the operators life unlike Fighter jets. All of Africa is going to get into Drones to fight civil wars. It'll be crazy

 

[EyiPunter]

No way the Syrian civil that has been raging since 2011 has killed 500k your telling me Tigray/Amhara/Oromo war has killed more?

its probably 100 time the 600k we stated, but ethiopia has its way of not turly documenting its true stats

 

[Zak12]

You think Abiy can bring an permanent end to these civil wars? He would probably need like 2000 Drones to do it. Mengistu if I'm correct back in 1991 had only like 20-30 fighter jets. Military Drones are way cheaper than fighter jets. Chinese Military Drones cost 1 million USD per drone while 1 fighter jet is between 30-40 Million USD. Drones imo can end civil wars in large enough numbers. If only the government has drones. Drones also bring zero risk to the operators life unlike Fighter jets. All of Africa is going to get into Drones to fight civil wars. It'll be crazy

He could temporarily end conflict but at best it would just stall things out until it inevitably flares up again.

You have to understand that the Ethiopian apparatus is inherently unsustainable due to the simple fact that there is no shared Ethiopian identity. You have 80+ ethnicities that speak in various languages and believe in different religions all forced together but share no history or culture. One only needs to look at the fact that Ethiopia's borders have been constantly fluctuating and changing throughout its history only seeing its modern borders (aside from Eritrea) form in the 50s. However, those little groups aren't the problem compared to the big three (Amhara, Tigrayans, Oromos) who absolutely REFUSE to work or compromise with each other and since they all want to claim ultimate authority for themselves, resulting in constant power struggles throughout the 20th century. Its kind of similar to the qabilyad Somalis suffer from albeit on a much larger scale that results in millions dying in order to secure Arat Kilo.

There can be brief lull in violence but conflict will happen again with another regime change.

 

[EritreanPost_]

Probably is there’s been a war and genocide going on in Tigray and Amhara region.

I would only add that many of the killings didn’t take place in Tigray.
Which way Genocide is also not the accurate term.

Around summer 2021-august 2022 the TPLF kicked out the ENDF from Tigray and invaded the Amhara and Afar region of Ethiopia(Operation Alula).

The TPLF dominated the battles in part, advances towards the capital of Ethiopia, entered Lalibela Amhara Shewarobit Chenna Kombolcha the Afar region (Semera, Berale)

This when most people were killed during the war. Both sides TPLF and the Ethiopian army lost many fighters during this period.

but with regards to the civilian population.
The tplf invaded the afar and Amhara region and committed the deadliest massacre including the in the Amhara region where they killed 100s of ethnic Amharas in few days, killed their animals, raped their women including children in the Chenna Amhara region and the tplf invaded the afar region, killed many Afar civilians, attacked Eritrean Afar refugee camps, killed and raped Eritrean and Ethiopian Afars.

And the burning of two mosques in the Amhara and afar region by TPLF.

But the International media which is well connected with the TPLF they left that part out.

 

[Wonyluvr]

I would only add that many of the killings didn’t take place in Tigray.
Which way Genocide is also not the accurate term.

Around summer 2021-august 2022 the TPLF kicked out the ENDF from Tigray and invaded the Amhara and Afar region of Ethiopia(Operation Alula).

The TPLF dominated the battles in part, advances towards the capital of Ethiopia, entered Lalibela Amhara Shewarobit Chenna Kombolcha the Afar region (Semera, Berale)

This when most people were killed during the war. Both sides TPLF and the Ethiopian army lost many fighters during this period.

but with regards to the civilian population.
The tplf invaded the afar and Amhara region and committed the deadliest massacre including the in the Amhara region where they killed 100s of ethnic Amharas in few days, killed their animals, raped their women including children in the Chenna Amhara region and the tplf invaded the afar region, killed many Afar civilians, attacked Eritrean Afar refugee camps, killed and raped Eritrean and Ethiopian Afars.
And the burning of two mosques in the Amhara and afar region by TPLF.

But the International media which is well connected with the TPLF they left that part out.

The TPLF is no good it’s unfortunate that civilians pay the ultimate price

 

[Flightboi]

He could temporarily end conflict but at best it would just stall things out until it inevitably flares up again.

You have to understand that the Ethiopian apparatus is inherently unsustainable due to the simple fact that there is no shared Ethiopian identity. You have 80+ ethnicities that speak in various languages and believe in different religions all forced together but share no history or culture. One only needs to look at the fact that Ethiopia's borders have been constantly fluctuating and changing throughout its history only seeing its modern borders (aside from Eritrea) form in the 50s. However, those little groups aren't the problem compared to the big three (Amhara, Tigrayans, Oromos) who absolutely REFUSE to work or compromise with each other and since they all want to claim ultimate authority for themselves, resulting in constant power struggles throughout the 20th century. Its kind of similar to the qabilyad Somalis suffer from albeit on a much larger scale that results in millions dying in order to secure Arat Kilo.

There can be brief lull in violence but conflict will happen again with another regime change.

If Abiy does get 2000 Chinese Military Drones it'll be very hard to overthrow him with violence. He could easily just surround the exterior of Addis with the Drones and deny the rebels access. Mengistu didn't have this option. It seems to me it'll be harder now to copy what TPLF/EPLF did back in 1991 as Military Drones didn't exist until 2001.

 

[Zak12]

If Abiy does get 2000 Chinese Military Drones it'll be very hard to overthrow him with violence. He could easily just surround the exterior of Addis with the Drones and deny the rebels access. Mengistu didn't have this option. It seems to me it'll be harder now to copy what TPLF/EPLF did back in 1991 as Military Drones didn't exist until 2001.

Except even rebel groups can get access to drones, either from outside parties or from building it themselves. Hamas and Houthis and Myanmar rebels for examples have drones

 

[Flightboi]

Except even rebel groups can get access to drones, either from outside parties or from building it themselves. Hamas and Houthis and Myanmar rebels for examples have drones

Hamas and Houthis Drones were given to them by Iran. Iran most likely won't give Drones to the Ethiopian Rebels if Abiy is on good terms with Iran. Myanmar Rebels are making their Drones with 3D printers but that requires electricity which 55% of Ethiopia doesn't have and the government can cut off electricity access whenever they want to like they did to Amhara and Tigray Regions. The rebels would need huge solar panels to mass produce Drones and since solar panels have to be in the sun all the time it'll be hard to hide them and the government Drones can just Drone strike the solar panels. Abiy also bought Russian Electronic Warfare Machines which can disable Drones like the ones in Myanmar and the same ones that Ukraine are using against Russia. Ukraine is losing 10 000 Drones every month to Russian Electronic Warfare Machines. This is going to be very hard to repeat 1991. https://nypost.com/2023/05/22/ukraine-losing-10000-drones-per-month-to-russia/ https://www.military.africa/2023/10...onic-warfare-gear-at-anniversary-celebration/

 

[Zak12]

Hamas and Houthis Drones were given to them by Iran. Iran most likely won't give Drones to the Ethiopian Rebels if Abiy is on good terms with Iran. Myanmar Rebels are making their Drones with 3D printers but that requires electricity which 55% of Ethiopia doesn't have and the government can cut off electricity access whenever they want to like they did to Amhara and Tigray Regions. The rebels would need huge solar panels to mass produce Drones and since solar panels have to be in the sun all the time it'll be hard to hide them and the government Drones can just Drone strike the solar panels. Abiy also bought Russian Electronic Warfare Machines which can disable Drones like the ones in Myanmar and the same ones that Ukraine are using against Russia. Ukraine is losing 10 000 Drones every month to Russian Electronic Warfare Machines. This is going to be very hard to repeat 1991. https://nypost.com/2023/05/22/ukraine-losing-10000-drones-per-month-to-russia/ https://www.military.africa/2023/10...onic-warfare-gear-at-anniversary-celebration/

Even ISIS has access to drones. Even if it may be difficult to procure them now, drones will become easier and easier to obtain in the future.

Capturing Addis Ababa doesn't need to be the sole objective either, drones alone can't beat rebels who entrenched themselves in key positions in the country that are hard to invade or hold. All the rebels need to do is play the waiting game as Ethiopia slowly declines internally

 

[Flightboi]

I would only add that many of the killings didn’t take place in Tigray.
Which way Genocide is also not the accurate term.

Around summer 2021-august 2022 the TPLF kicked out the ENDF from Tigray and invaded the Amhara and Afar region of Ethiopia(Operation Alula).

The TPLF dominated the battles in part, advances towards the capital of Ethiopia, entered Lalibela Amhara Shewarobit Chenna Kombolcha the Afar region (Semera, Berale)

This when most people were killed during the war. Both sides TPLF and the Ethiopian army lost many fighters during this period.

but with regards to the civilian population.
The tplf invaded the afar and Amhara region and committed the deadliest massacre including the in the Amhara region where they killed 100s of ethnic Amharas in few days, killed their animals, raped their women including children in the Chenna Amhara region and the tplf invaded the afar region, killed many Afar civilians, attacked Eritrean Afar refugee camps, killed and raped Eritrean and Ethiopian Afars.

And the burning of two mosques in the Amhara and afar region by TPLF.

But the International media which is well connected with the TPLF they left that part out.

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Brother it’s not about Christianity and Islam.

I think most Christians in Ethiopia are not like TPLF. And Christianity doesn’t endorse this violence.

The TPLF is just Tigrayan-Christian extremist organization. In Axum, Tigray constructions of Mosque are prohibited . The local Muslim population is not allowed to build mosques in Axum, no Azan, no islamic funerals.

Tigrayan King Yohannes the 5th was engaged in ethnic cleansings. He converted many Jebertis in Tigray and Muslims in Wollo and Oromia by force to Christianity.

many Muslims from Tigray (Jebertis) were expelled from Tigray and fled to Eritrea.

In Eritrea we don’t have these kind of religious tensions.

Ethiopia is still were it was since the Adal-Abessianian conflict. But I think other communities as oromos amharas garage are less reactionary.

 

[Flightboi]

Even ISIS has access to drones. Even if it may be difficult to procure them now, drones will become easier and easier to obtain in the future.

Capturing Addis Ababa doesn't need to be the sole objective either, drones alone can't beat rebels who entrenched themselves in key positions in the country that are hard to invade or hold. All the rebels need to do is play the waiting game as Ethiopia slowly declines internally

I actually think Drones can beat rebels. It just needs to be smaller Drones. Drones like the Turkish TB2 aren't enough to beat guerilla rebels. The Drones that can defeat guerilla rebels would instead be Kamikaze cheap disposable Drones.

This cheap drone killed a Russian in Ukraine after chasing him around a bit. This Russian kamikaze Drone is 35k USD each. Ethiopia could theoretically buy a few hundred thousand of them and use it to kill off all the rebels.

When fully AI autonomous Drones swarms come eventually that'll fully mark the end of rebels. If Ethiopia gets these AI autonomous Drone swarms it'll become a stable neverending dictatorship. Somalia will also get these drones when they see it being used on Ethiopian rebels to use against Al shabaab.

https://x.com/JHartley2/status/1749495155915141203?s=20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZALA_Lancet

 

[Zak12]

When fully AI autonomous Drones swarms come eventually that'll fully mark the end of rebels

Well we'll see about that. AI technology is still in infancy and Fano has been making major gains

it'll become a stable neverending dictatorship.

There is nothing stable about that. No amount of drones and state terror can fix crippling poverty, inflation, ethnic tensions, hunger, climate change ect. As I talked about before, Ethiopia as a country isn't sustainable whatsoever. Something major has to change but no Ethiopian leader is capable of doing it

 

[Flightboi]

Well we'll see about that. AI technology is still in infancy and Fano has been making major gains


There is nothing stable about that. No amount of drones and state terror can fix crippling poverty, inflation, ethnic tensions, hunger, climate change ect. As I talked about before, Ethiopia as a country isn't sustainable whatsoever. Something major has to change but no Ethiopian leader is capable of doing it

What gains have Fano been making? They still can't hold the cities whenever they try coming inside. I'm seeing both the government and Fano saying they are winning so it's hard to tell who's actually winning. One side is lying obviously.

Also Fano appears to be fighting the TPLF for the territory currently held by Fano but officially belongs to Tigray. Fano can't fight both the government and TPLF at the same time and win. They most likely lose ground on 1 side or both sides.

 

[Flightboi]

Well we'll see about that. AI technology is still in infancy and Fano has been making major gains


There is nothing stable about that. No amount of drones and state terror can fix crippling poverty, inflation, ethnic tensions, hunger, climate change ect. As I talked about before, Ethiopia as a country isn't sustainable whatsoever. Something major has to change but no Ethiopian leader is capable of doing it

How is Fano making major gains? They are losing on the north front with TPLF now. Ethiopian military is supporting TPLF now as they blocked Fano from coming to stop TPLF. Fano can't win a 2 front war between Ethiopian military and TPLF. https://myviewsonnews.net/tigray-fighters-capture-new-kebeles-in-raya-alamata/