The difference between clan enclaves and statehood in pics

[merka]

Gedo is tribal enclave just like ictiraafstan if you didn’t know now you you know

here I’m speaking of nationhood regardless of who is at the helm

All you can show us of your nationhood is Mogadishu. Last time I checked it was just one city.

 

[FBIsomalia]

The stadium was not build but rather refurbished through isxilqaan and support of international donors

now 90% of the work force were Somalis and more specifically a large percent of them were government employees.

now ask yourself this! What happens the funds given to the tribal enclaves for 30 years??

i will tell you caloosha adeerka ka fiiri

What about Garcaad port?

 

[TheMadMullah]

What about Garcaad port?

Until the project is completed it will be just another tribal enclave dream just like Berbera corridor if it rings any bell

 

[shum33]

The stadium was not build but rather refurbished through isxilqaan and support of international donors

now 90% of the work force were Somalis and more specifically a large percent of them were government employees.

now ask yourself this! What happens the funds given to the tribal enclaves for 30 years??

i will tell you caloosha adeerka ka fiiri

Bro N&N are some of the most corrupted people out there i am not saying SL are not corrupt but millions that are suppose to build their country recent e.g the barawe airport,if you can call it an airport
Beileh is building in hargeisa while he is stealing from mogadishu.
But SL is building itself up if we had the recogn and the help you get we would have left somalia in the dust

 

[Rivaldo]

 

[Mad-MullaH]

Them maxmuud salebaan land and isaaq land so corrupted..you cant survive as business man without paying bribes...the audacity of some commentators here is funny...no more half assed countries..we want one Somalia

 

[TheMadMullah]

Bro N&N are some of the most corrupted people out there i am not saying SL are not corrupt but millions that are suppose to build their country recent e.g the barawe airport,if you can call it an airport
Beileh is building in hargeisa while he is stealing for mogadishu.
But SL is building itself up if we had the recogn and the help you get we would have left somalia in the dust

First of all I don’t support N$N as a party or group or whatever I only support good leadership. Even if I were to agree with you If they are corrupt how comes they have surpassed your uncles tribal fiefdom in all sectors?
How does the world bank, imf and the international community have more faith in this administration than all the others since 1990?

im I supposed to believe a guy or the financial experts who have given this administration a clean bill?

we know a corrupt administration can not pay salaries or build government and public institutions but somehow this administration is corrupt and still manages to do both
It must be miracle

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Gedo is tribal enclave just like ictiraafstan if you didn’t know now you you know

here I’m speaking of nationhood regardless of who is at the helm

Charity begins.

 

[Mad-MullaH]

lets not forget 30 years and they cant stop even Irani vessels from illegally fishing...nacala xaaranta ku dhasay ..puntland iyo somaliland

 

[TheMadMullah]

Charity begins.

true charity begins at home hence why you should focus on garissa your uncles bad leadership has given you this after 50+ years of independence and stable country

 

[FBIsomalia]

Until the project is completed it will be just another tribal enclave dream just like Berbera corridor if it rings any bell

Until project completed you say .

 

[Mad-MullaH]

Until project completed you say .

Yo they are stealing your fish what is bootoland doing?

 

[FBIsomalia]

You they are stealing your fish what is bootoland doing?

Soon we will bring them to justice like what we did on last 10 years.

 

[shum33]

First of all I don’t support N$N as a party or group or whatever I only support good leadership. Even if I were to agree with you If they are corrupt how comes they have surpassed your uncles tribal fiefdom in all sectors?
How does the world bank, imf and the international community have more faith in this administration than all the others since 1990?

im I supposed to believe a guy or the financial experts who have given this administration a clean bill?

we know a corrupt administration can not pay salaries or build government and public institutions but somehow this administration is corrupt and still manages to do both
It must be miracle

Which sector did they surpase SL in? Hiring apeish mercenaries that rape and pimp their women? Being a puppet to foreign powers? Regional destabilizing instead of stabilizing regions that are loyal to them? Allowing al shabab to collect more taxes than them?
Like merka pointed out all that somalia can point to as a city is mogadishu while we have 4 we can call cities and all of them in the top 10 biggest, some of these cities were rebuilt by us?
Banking?!! You meant the bank that a fire mysteriously started and all the money got stolen?
We are organised collecting taxes and giving back. SL is an african country where politicians are corrupt. You think if somalia was stable the same wouldn’t happen.
SL is building itself the people from politicians to the normal citizens are all committed something i cant say for somalia.

 

[Mad-MullaH]

Soon we will bring them to justice like what we did on last 10 years.

Soon coming to the movie theaters near you...
Bootoland for 30 years ..astaqfurAllah

 

[TheMadMullah]

Which sector did they surpase SL in? Hiring apeish mercenaries that rape and pimp their women? Being a puppet to foreign powers? Regional destabilizing instead of stabilizing regions that are loyal to them? Allowing al shabab to collect more taxes than them?
Like merka pointed out all that somalia can point to as a city is mogadishu while we have 4 we can call cities and all of them in the top 10 biggest, some of these cities were rebuilt by us?
Banking?!! You meant the bank that a fire mysteriously started and all the money got stolen?
We are organised collecting taxes and giving back. SL is an african country where politicians are corrupt. You think if somalia was stable the same wouldn’t happen.
SL is building itself the people from politicians to the normal citizens are all committed something i cant say for somalia.

Just to name a few for you ictiraaf boy

current administration has surpassed ictiraafstan in diplomacy, air space control ,service deliver, healthcare as hargeisa hospital lacks oxygen.

and lastly the military sector which is under reconstruction and very good professionalism being instilled

 

[madaxweyne]

@TheMadMullah you mean a diffrence between a tribal chiefdom and a state

reminds me of the avater series where you had the water tribe chieftan the fire nation the air nomads and the earth kingdom

 

[shum33]

Just to name a few for you ictiraaf boy

current administration has surpassed ictiraafstan in diplomacy, air space control ,service deliver, healthcare as hargeisa hospital lacks oxygen.

and lastly the military sector which is under reconstruction and very good professionalism being instilled

Are we making things up now?
Diplomacy how? The paper gov could not use its stamps to stop any of our projects from DP world to exporting xoolos. Abiy needed to hold farmajo’s hands to go to somaliland
Airspace control? Don’t you read the threads here? Naagos were claiming ethiopia airlines was still landing in hargeisa bringing COVID19 even though they use the airport to go to putaland. Air dubai too untill it was recently banned.
Health care is lagging cause its a struggling poor country but they still created center for possible pandemic victims and were the first to adress their people. We also had the lowest cases in the horn. We have advance wards for heart surgery and brain surgery. Public health sector is quick and responsive with most of the clinics with electricity. Now outside mogadishu which has turkish hospitals and foreing aid the hospitals have no medicine,no oxygen,no professional doctors,no electricity!!!
The success SL is clear cause you need to compare a recognized country with the worlds support to an unrecognized country with only their people supporting it.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Soon coming to the movie theaters near you...
Bootoland for 30 years ..astaqfurAllah

VOA report

Somali regional officials say the Iranian captain of a fishing boat was killed and another sailor was injured after security forces opened fire during an operation in the Indian Ocean.

Officials said the shooting occurred after Puntland Maritime Police Forces spotted two boats suspected to be fishing illegally Friday in Somali waters.

Colonel Mohamed Abdi Hashi of Puntland police told VOA Somali the two boats ignored orders to stop and attempted to escape.

“Our security forces were conducting an operation on October 6, they encountered two illegal fishing boats off Ras Hafun coast. When they tried to stop them in order to check their permits they escaped,” he said.

“They managed to seize one of the boats, the other one escaped.”

Colonel Hashi said during the shooting captain Haydar Abdalla Sabiil of the vessel Al-Sa'idi was killed and a second sailor was injured, 16 others are unharmed and were apprehended, he said.

The boat carrying the sailors have arrived at Bosaso port for questioning. The boat is carrying two tons of fish illegally caught in Somali waters, officials said.

“The boat is now docked at Bosaso port, the body of the captain is in the freezer of the boat, and according to the law we transferred the case to the courts.”

Officials did not release the name of the dead sailor.

Colonel Hashi says he wasn’t sure if Somali political leaders have made any contact with Iran about the incident.

"We are just soldiers, it’s possible that Puntland leadership have contacted Iran but I’m not aware of contact.”

Recurring problem

Illegal fishing in Somali waters occurs often according to maritime organizations. Most of the boats illegally fishing in Somali waters come from Iran, Yemen, China and number of Southeast Asian countries, according to the organizations.

A 2015 report by the U.S.-based watchdog, Secure Fisheries, says foreign fishing boats caught more than 132,000 metric tons of fish off Somalia in each of 2013 and 2014, while local fishermen caught only 40,000 metric tons. In monetary terms, foreign vessels have out earned their Somali counterparts by nearly $250 million per year, the report said.

Other maritime organizations have often warned illegal fishing sparks increases of piracy activities in Somalia waters.

In late 2015, Puntland seized six boats and dozens of sailors from Iran and Yemen. They were all released after heavy fines and confiscation of their catch.

Last year, Somalia received a $65,000 fine from the owners of Belize-flagged vessel, Greko 1, which was found guilty of fishing illegally in Somali waters.

The European Union Naval Force (EUNAVFOR), which combats piracy activities off the coast of Somalia, tipped the Somali authorities and international watchdogs about the fishing activities of Greko 1.

Jacqueline Sherriff who is a spokesperson for the EUNAVFOR tells VOA Somali an important part of its mandate is to monitor fishing activities off the coast of Somalia.

“That vessel, the only reason that we could successfully prosecute that vessel is because the EUNAVFOR provided photographic evidence and location evidence that it was actually illegally fishing in Somali waters,” she said.

Sherriff said the EU office in Brussels works with the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission, an intergovernmental organization responsible for the management of tuna and tuna-like species in the ocean, to investigate illegal fishing cases.

She said if EUNAVFOR naval ships see a vessel that is not Somali actively engaged in fishing they take a note of the vessel, its location, its name, the color of the vessel, what type of fishing gear it has deployed and then pass on the information to the maritime watchdogs.

Fadumo Yasin Jama contributed to this report.

 

[TheMadMullah]

Are we making things up now?
Diplomacy how? The paper gov could not use its stamps to stop any of our projects from DP world to exporting xoolos. Abiy needed to hold farmajo’s hands to go to somaliland
Airspace control? Don’t you read the threads here? Naagos were claiming ethiopia airlines was still landing in hargeisa bringing COVID19 even though they use the airport to go to putaland. Air dubai too untill it was recently banned.
Health care is lagging cause its a struggling poor country but they still created center for possible pandemic victims and were the first to adress their people. We also had the lowest cases in the horn. We have advance wards for heart surgery and brain surgery. Public health sector is quick and responsive with most of the clinics with electricity. Now outside mogadishu which has turkish hospitals and foreing aid the hospitals have no medicine,no oxygen,no professional doctors,no electricity!!!
The success SL is clear cause you need to compare a recognized country with the worlds support to an unrecognized country with only their people supporting it.

Istagfuralah conducting brain surgery when there is no oxygen Who conducts the surgeries is it surgeon Nurse Edna lol