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The following exchange was published in the British humor
magazine, Punch, on April 3, 1957. It is reprinted here as an
appropriate introduction and as a mental exercise to limber the
mind for the material contained in this book.



Q. What are banks for?

A. To make money.

Q. For the customers?

A. For the banks.

Q. Why doesn't bank advertis-
ing mention this?

A. It would not be in good taste.
But it is mentioned by implica-
tion in references to reserves of
$249,000,000 or thereabouts.
That is the money that they have
made.

Q. Out of the customers?
A. I suppose so.

Q. They also mention Assets of
$500,000,000 or thereabouts.
Have they made that too?

A. Not exactly. That is the
money they use to make money.

Q. I see. And they keep it in a
safe somewhere?

A. Not at all. They lend it to
customers.

Q. Then they haven't got it?
A. No.

Q. Then how is it Assets?

A. They maintain that it would
be if they got it back.

Q. But they must have some
money in a safe somewhere?



A. Yes, usually $500,000,000 or
thereabouts. This is called
Liabilities.

Q. But if they've got it, how can
they be liable for it?

A. Because it isn't theirs.

Q. Then why do they have it?

A. It has been lent to them by
customers.

Q. You mean customers lend
banks money?

A. In effect. They put money
into their accounts, so it is really
lent to the banks.

Q. And what do the banks do
with it?

A. Lend it to other customers.

Q. But you said that money they
lent to other people was Assets?

A. Yes.

Q. Then Assets and Liabilities
must be the same thing?

A. You can't really say that.

Q. But you've just said it. If I put
$100 into my account the bank is
liable to have to pay it back, so
it's Liabilities. But they go and
lend it to someone else, and he is
liable to have to pay it back, so
it's Assets. It's the same $100,
isn't it?

A. Yes. But...



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Q. Then it cancels out. It means,
doesn't it, that banks haven't
really any money at all?

A. Theoretically....

Q. Never mind theoretically.
And if they haven't any money,
where do they get their
Reserves of $249,000,000 or
thereabouts?

A. I told you. That is the money
they have made.

Q. How?

A. Well, when they lend your
$100 to someone they charge
him interest.

Q. How much?

A. It depends on the Bank Rate.
Say five and a-half per cent.
That's their profit.

Q. Why isn't it my profit? Isn't it
my money?

A. It's the theory of banking
practice that...

Q. When I lend them my $100
why don't I charge them inter-
est?

A. You do.

Q. You don't say. How much?

A. It depends on the Bank Rate.
Say half a per cent.

Q. Grasping of me, rather?

A. But that's only if you're not
going to draw the money out
again.

Q. But of course, I'm going to
draw it out again. If I hadn't
wanted to draw it out again I
could have buried it in the gar-
den, couldn't I?



A. They wouldn't like you to
draw it out again.

Q. Why not? If I keep it there
you say it's a Liability. Wouldn't
they be glad if I reduced their
Liabilities by removing it?

A. No. Because if you remove it
they can't lend it to anyone else.

Q. But if I wanted to remove it
they'd have to let me?

A. Certainly.

Q. But suppose they've already
lent it to another customer?

A. Then they'll let you have
someone else's money.

Q. But suppose he wants his too
... and they've let me have it?

A. You're being purposely ob-
tuse.

Q. I think I'm being acute. What
if everyone wanted their money
at once?

A. It's the theory of banking
practice that they never would.

Q. So what banks bank on is not
having to meet their commit-
ments?

A. I wouldn't say that.

Q. Naturally. Well, if there's
nothing else you think you can
tell me...?

A. Quite so. Now you can go off
and open a banking account.

Q. Just one last question.

A. Of course.

Q. Wouldn't I do better to go off
and open up a bank?



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Section I



WHAT CREATURE
IS THIS?



What is the Federal Reserve System? The answer
may surprise you. It is not federal and there are
no reserves. Furthermore, the Federal Reserve
Banks are not even banks. The key to this riddle is
to be found, not at the beginning of the story, but
in the middle. Since this is not a textbook, we are
not confined to a chronological structure. The
subject matter is not a curriculum to be mastered
but a mystery to be solved. So let us start where
the action is.



Chapter One



THE JOURNEY TO
JEKYLL ISLAND

The secret meeting on Jekyll Island in Georgia at
which the Federal Reserve was conceived; the
birth of a banking cartel to protect its members
from competition; the strategy of how to convince
Congress and the public that this cartel was an
agency of the United States government.

The New Jersey railway station was bitterly cold that night.
Flurries of the year's first snow swirled around street lights.
November wind rattled roof panels above the track shed and gave
a long, mournful sound among the rafters.

It was approaching ten PM, and the station was nearly empty
except for a few passengers scurrying to board the last Southbound
of the day. The rail equipment was typical for that year of 1910,
mostly chair cars that converted into sleepers with cramped upper
and lower berths. For those with limited funds, coach cars were
coupled to the front. They would take the brunt of the engine's
noise and smoke that, somehow, always managed to seep through
unseen cracks. A dining car was placed between the sections as a
subtle barrier between the two classes of travelers. By today's
standards, the environment was drab. Chairs and mattresses were
hard. Surfaces were metal or scarred wood. Colors were dark green
and gray.

In their hurry to board the train and escape the chill of the
wind, few passengers noticed the activity at the far end of the
platform. At a gate seldom used at this hour of the night was a
spectacular sight. Nudged against the end-rail bumper was a long
car that caused those few who saw it to stop and stare. Its gleaming
black paint was accented with polished brass hand rails, knobs,
frames, and filigrees. The shades were drawn, but through the open
door, one could see mahogany paneling, velvet drapes, plush



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armchairs, and a well stocked bar. Porters with white serving coats
were busying themselves with routine chores. And there was the
distinct aroma of expensive cigars. Other cars in the station bore
numbers on each end to distinguish them from their dull brothers.
But numbers were not needed for this beauty. On the center of each
side was a small plaque bearing but a single word: ALDRICH.

The name of Nelson Aldrich, senator from Rhode Island, was
well known even in New Jersey. By 1910, he was one of the most
powerful men in Washington, D.C., and his private railway car
often was seen at the New York and New Jersey rail terminals
during frequent trips to Wall Street. Aldrich was far more than a
senator. He was considered to be the political spokesman for big
business. As an investment associate of J.P. Morgan, he had
extensive holdings in banking, manufacturing, and public utilities.
His son-in-law was John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Sixty years later, his
grandson, Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller, would become Vice-
President of the United States.

When Aldrich arrived at the station, there was no doubt he was
the commander of the private car. Wearing a long, fur-collared
coat, a silk top hat, and carrying a silver-tipped walking stick, he
strode briskly down the platform with his private secretary,
Shelton, and a cluster of porters behind them hauling assorted
trunks and cases.

No sooner had the Senator boarded his car when several more
passengers arrived with similar collections of luggage. The last
man appeared just moments before the final "aaall aboarrrd." He
was carrying a shotgun case.

While Aldrich was easily recognized by most of the travelers
who saw him stride through the station, the other faces were not
familiar. These strangers had been instructed to arrive separately,
to avoid reporters, and, should they meet inside the station, to
pretend they did not know each other. After boarding the train,
they had been told to use first names only so as not to reveal each
other's identity. As a result of these precautions, not even the
private-car porters and servants knew the names of these guests.

Back at the main gate, there was a double blast from the
engine's whistle. Suddenly, the gentle sensation of motion; the
excitement of a journey begun. But, no sooner had the train cleared
the platform when it shuttered to a stop. Then, to everyone's
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again. Had they forgotten something? Was there a problem with
the engine?

A sudden lurch and the slam of couplers gave the answer. They
had picked up another car at the end of the train. Possibly the mail
car? In an instant the forward motion was resumed, and all
thoughts returned to the trip ahead and to the minimal comforts of
the accommodations.

And so, as the passengers drifted off to sleep that night to the
rhythmic clicking of steel wheels against rail, little did they dream
that, riding in the car at the end of their train, were seven men who
represented an estimated one-fourth of the total wealth of the entire
world.

This was the roster of the Aldrich car that night:

1. Nelson W. Aldrich, Republican "whip" in the Senate, Chairman

of the National Monetary Commission, business associate of J.P.
Morgan, father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller, Jr.;

2. Abraham Piatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of the United States

Treasury;

3. Frank A. Vanderlip, president of the National City Bank of New

York, the most powerful of the banks at that time, representing
William Rockefeller and the international investment banking
house of Kuhn, Loeb & Company;

4. Henry P. Davison, senior partner of the J.P. Morgan Company;

5. Charles D. Norton, president of J.P. Morgan's First National Bank

of New York;

6. Benjamin Strong, head of J.P. Morgan's Bankers Trust Company;

and

7. Paul M. Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Company, a

representative of the Rothschild banking dynasty in England
and France, and brother to Max Warburg who was head of the
Warburg banking consortium in Germany and the Netherlands.

1. In private correspondence between the author and Andrew L. Gray, the Grand
Nephew of Abraham P. Andrew, Mr. Gray claims that Strong was not in
attendance. On the other hand, Frank Vanderlip — who was there — says in his
memoirs that he was. How could Vanderlip be wrong? Gray's response: "He was
in his late seventies when he wrote the book and the essay in question.... Perhaps
the wish was father to the thought." If Vanderlip truly was in error, it was perhaps
not so significant after all because, as Gray admits: "Strong would have been among
those few to be let in on the secret." In the absence of further confirmation to the
contrary, we are compelled to accept Vanderlip 's account.



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THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND



CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH

Centralization of control over financial resources was far
advanced by 1910. In the United States, there were two main focal
points of this control: the Morgan group and the Rockefeller group.
Within each orbit was a maze of commercial banks, acceptance
banks, and investment firms. In Europe, the same process had
proceeded even further and had coalesced into the Rothschild
group and the Warburg group. An article appeared in the Nezv York
Times on May 3, 1931, commenting on the death of George Baker,
one of Morgan's closest associates. It said: "One-sixth of the total
wealth of the world was represented by members of the Jekyll
Island Club." The reference was only to those in the Morgan group,
(members of the Jekyll Island Club). It did not include the
Rockefeller group or the European financiers. When all of these are
combined, the previous estimate that one-fourth of the world's
wealth was represented by these groups is probably conservative.

In 1913, the year that the Federal Reserve Act became law, a
subcommittee of the House Committee on Currency and Banking,
under the chairmanship of Arsene Pujo of Louisiana, completed its
investigation into the concentration of financial power in the
United States. Pujo was considered to be a spokesman for the oil
interests, part of the very group under investigation, and did
everything possible to sabotage the hearings. In spite of his efforts,
however, the final report of the committee at large was devastating:

Your committee is satisfied from the proofs submitted ... that
there is an established and well defined identity and community of
interest between a few leaders of finance ... which has resulted in great
and rapidly growing concentration of the control of money and credit
in the hands of these few men....

Under our system of issuing and distributing corporate securities
the investing public does not buy directly from the corporation. The
securities travel from the issuing house through middlemen to the
investor. It is only the great banks or bankers with access to the
mainsprings of the concentrated resources made up of other people's
money, in the banks, trust companies, and life insurance companies,
and with control of the machinery for creating markets and
distributing securities, who have had the power to underwrite or
guarantee the sale of large-scale security issues. The men who through
their control over the funds of our railroad and industrial companies
are able to direct where such funds shall be kept, and thus to create
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position to tap those reservoirs for the ventures in which they are
interested and to prevent their being tapped for purposes which they
do not approve....

When we consider, also, in this connection that into these
reservoirs of money and credit there flow a large part of the reserves of
the banks of the country, that they are also the agents and
correspondents of the out-of-town banks in the loaning of their
surplus funds in the only public money market of the country, and
that a small group of men and their partners and associates have now
further strengthened their hold upon the resources of these
institutions by acquiring large stock holdings therein, by
representation on their boards and through valuable patronage, we
begin to realize something of the extent to which this practical and
effective domination and control over our greatest financial, railroad
and industrial corporations has developed, largely within the past five
years, and that it is fraught with peril to the welfare of the country. 1

Such was the nature of the wealth and power represented by
those seven men who gathered in secret that night and travelled in
the luxury of Senator Aldrich's private car.

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THE SUPREMACY OF GOLD

There is one metal, of course, that has been selected by
centuries of trial and error above all others. Even today, in a world
where money can no longer be defined, the common man instinc-
tively knows that gold will do just fine until something better
comes along. We shall leave it to the sociologists to debate why gold
has been chosen as the universal money. For our purposes, it is
only important to know that it has been. But we should not
overlook the possibility that it was an excellent choice. As for
quantity, there seems to be just the right amount to keep its value
high enough for useful coinage. It is less plentiful than silver
—which, incidentally, has run a close second in the monetary
contest— and more abundant than platinum. Either could have
served the purpose quite well, but gold has provided what appears
to be the perfect compromise. Furthermore, it is a commodity in
great demand for purposes other than money. It is sought for both
industry and ornament, thus assuring its intrinsic value under all
conditions. And, of course, its purity and weight can be precisely
measured.



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THE MISLEADING THEORY OF QUANTITY

It often is argued that gold is inappropriate as money because it
is too limited in supply to satisfy the needs of modern commerce.
On the surface, that may sound logical — after all, we do need a lot
of money out there to keep the wheels of the economy turning —
but, upon examination, this turns out to be one of the most childish
ideas imaginable.

First of all, it is estimated that approximately 45% of all the gold
mined throughout the world since the discovery of America is now
in government or banking stockpiles. 1 There undoubtedly is at
least an additional 30% in jewelry, ornaments, and private hoards.
Any commodity which exists to the extent of 75% of its total world
production since Columbus discovered America can hardly be
described as in short supply.

The deeper reality, however, is that the supply is not even
important. Remember that the primary function of money is to
measure the value of the items for which it is exchanged. In this
sense, it serves as a yardstick or ruler of value. It really makes no
difference if we measure the length of our rug in inches, feet, yards,
or meters. We could even manage it quite well in miles if we used
decimals and expressed the result in millimiles. We could even use
multiple rulers, but no matter what measurement we use, the
reality of what we are measuring does not change. Our rug does
not become larger just because we have increased the quantity of
measurement units by painting additional markers onto our rulers.

If the supply of gold in relation to the supply of available goods

is so small that a one-ounce coin would be too valuable for minor
transactions, people simply would use half-ounce coins or tenth-
ounce coins. The amount of gold in the world does not affect its
ability to serve as money, it only affects the quantity that will be
used to measure any given transaction.

Let us illustrate the point by imagining that we are playing a
game of Monopoly. Each person has been given a starting supply
of play money with which to transact business. It doesn't take long
before we all begin to feel the shortage of cash. If we just had more
money, we could really wheel and deal. Let us suppose further that
someone discovers another game-box of Monopoly sitting in the

L Elgin Groseclose, Money and Man: A survey of Monetary Experience, 4th ed.
Oklahoma: University of Oklahoma Press, 1976), p. 259.



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closet and proposes that the currency from that be added to the
game under progress. By general agreement, the little bills are
distributed equally among all players. What would happen?

The money supply has now been doubled. We all have twice as
much money as we did a moment before. But would we be any
better off? There is no corresponding increase in the quantity of
property, so everyone would bid up the prices of existing pieces
until they became twice as expensive. In other words, the law of
supply and demand would rapidly seek exactly the same equilib-
rium as existed with the more limited money supply. When the
quantity of money expands without a corresponding increase in
goods, the effect is a reduction in the purchasing power of each
monetary unit. In other words, nothing really changes except that
the quoted price of everything goes up. But that is merely the quoted
price, the price as expressed in terms of the monetary unit. In truth,
the real price, in terms of its relationship to all other prices, remains
the same. It's merely that the relative value of the money supply
has gone down. This, of course, is the classic mechanism of
inflation. Prices do not go up. The value of the money goes down.

If Santa Claus were to visit everyone on Earth next Christmas
and leave in our stockings an amount of money exactly equal to the
amount we already had, there is no doubt that many would rejoice
over the sudden increase in wealth. By New Year's day, however,
prices would have doubled for everything, and the net result on the
world's standard of living would be exactly zero. 1

The reason so many people fall for the appealing argument that
the economy needs a larger money supply is that they zero in only
on the need to increase their supply. If they paused for a moment to
reflect on the consequences of the total supply increasing, the
nonsense of the proposal becomes immediately apparent.

Murray Rothbard, professor of economics at the University of
Nevada at Las Vegas, says:

We come to the startling truth that it doesn't matter what the supply
of money is. Any supply will do as well as any other supply. The free
market will simply adjust by changing the purchasing power, ot
effectiveness, of its gold-unit. There is no need whatever for any
planned increase in the money supply, for the supply to rise to offset

1. Those who rushed to market first, however, would benefit temporarily from
old prices. Under inflation, those who save are punished.



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any condition, or to follow any artificial criteria. More money does not
supply more capital, is not more productive, does not permit
"economic growth."

GOLD GUARANTEES PRICE STABILITY

The Federal Reserve claims that one of its primary objectives is
to stabilize prices. In this, of course, it has failed miserably. The
irony, however, is that maintaining stable prices is the easiest thing
in the world. All we have to do is stop tinkering with the money
supply and let the free market do its job. Prices become automat-
ically stable under a commodity money system, and this is particu-
larly true under a gold standard.

Economists like to illustrate the workings of the marketplace by
creating hypothetical micro and macro economies in which every-
thing is reduced to only a few factors and a few people. In that
spirit, therefore, let us create a hypothetical economy consisting of
only two classes of people: gold miners and tailors. Let us suppose
that the law of supply and demand has settled on the value of one
ounce of gold to be equal to a fine, custom-tailored suit of clothes.
That means that the labor, tools, materials, and talent required to
mine and refine one ounce of gold are equally traded for the labor,
tools, and talent required to weave and tailor the suit. Up until
now, the number of ounces of gold produced each year have been
roughly equal to the number of fine suits made each year, so prices
have remained stable. The price of a suit is one ounce of gold, and
the value of one ounce of gold is equal to one finely-tailored suit.

Let us now suppose that the miners, in their quest for a better
standard of living, work extra hours and produce more gold this
year than previously— or that they discover a new lode of gold
which greatly increases the available supply with little extra effort.
Now things are no longer in balance. There are more ounces of gold

than there are suits. The result of this expansion of the money
supply over and above the supply of available goods is the same as

in our game of Monopoly. The quoted prices of the suits go up
because the relative value of the gold has gone down.

The process does not end there, however. When the miners see
that they are no better off than before in spite of the extra work, and
especially when they see the tailors making a greater profit for no



CowlH rra y. R <"i'i"" d ' wha ' Has Government Done to Our Money'? (Larkspur
radA l>me Tree Tress, 1964), p. 13. F



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increase in labor, some of them decide to put down their picks and
turn to the trade of tailoring. In other words, they are responding to
the law of supply and demand in labor. When this happens, the
annual production of gold goes down while the production of suits
goes up, and an equilibrium is reached once again in which suits
and gold are traded as before. The free market, if unfettered by
politicians and money mechanics, will always maintain a stable
price structure which is automatically regulated by the underlying
factor of human effort. The human effort required to extract one
ounce of gold from the earth will always be approximately equal to
the amount of human effort required to provide the goods and
services for which it is freely exchanged.




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8. The Gold & Silver standard for currency in Islam

Today’s currency is fiat currency backed by no real assets, only backed by confidence. This is the reason we have increasing inflation the world over. Islam solves this problem as the basis of the currency in Islam is Gold & Silver, the currency is backed by and is interchangeable with it. The Prophet (saw) established the basis of the Islamic currency, the Dirham and the Dinar upon these tangible things which hold real value and retain value. The Islamic rules have been set in the Quran and Sunnah in terms of Gold and Silver such as the Nisab of Zakah. It is allowed to have paper notes as long as they are backed by Gold and Silver. So in the Islamic caliphate you can go to the Bayt al-Mal and exchange the paper notes. Therefore inflation is eliminated as the value of gold and silver are stable. Due to the current inflation and financial crisis we can see people are turning to buying gold instead of putting their money in stocks as they know it has a real value.
 

yuusufdiin

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The market will eventually crash, that's a given. But when it'll crash is the ultimate question.

Everyone should stockpile on gold since it's the only money with intrinsic value in this world.

Just want to be out before it crashes. I don't want to wait another cycle to break even. Nobody knows when the correction is coming. But this inter banking loaning with low rates is unsustainable.
 

dr.leorio

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Just want to be out before it crashes. I don't want to wait another cycle to break even. Nobody knows when the correction is coming. But this inter banking loaning with low rates is unsustainable.

Yup, I agree it's very unsustainable. I hope you pull out before the crash because I have a feeling their might be no recovery this time around.
 

Professor

The name is Professor, Haji Professor
don't you know this akhi this is simple economics. Most money in banks is everyday people's savings or deposits.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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Owning a bank is the easiest racket.

You deposit $1 and I turn it into $50 with fractional reserve and lend it out with interest.

However they probably make most of their money from playing around with global prices (commodities, currencies, equity, debt & etc).

If you and your friends own the central banks that call money into existence then why not act as the biggest buyer/seller etc and control prices to skim off the top everyday.
 

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don't you know this akhi this is simple economics. Most money in banks is everyday people's savings or deposits.
i just put up a link of a book that explains in detail the history of money, fiat currency, the gold standard, fractional reserved banking, how the federal reserves was created, how the governments borrow money from these bankers who print money that is backed by no intrinsic value & loan it on interest :draketf:
 

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Owning a bank is the easiest racket.

You deposit $1 and I turn it into $50 with fractional reserve and lend it out with interest.

However they probably make most of their money from playing around with global prices (commodities, currencies, equity, debt & etc).

If you and your friends own the central banks that call money into existence then why not act as the biggest buyer/seller etc and control prices to skim off the top everyday.
Forget about the ordinary citizens imagine bankers are doing this to governments hence the United States is indebted by over 20 trillion dollars which they will never be able to repay, just imagine if the sole superpower in the world is a debt slave then imagine us out there in Africa :ohlord:
 

Professor

The name is Professor, Haji Professor
i just put up a link of a book that explains in detail the history of money, fiat currency, the gold standard, fractional reserved banking, how the federal reserves was created, how the governments borrow money from these bankers who print money that is backed by no intrinsic value & loan it on interest :draketf:
:whoa: hey akhi I only read the question and answer part it is to long to read sxb. U should have summarised it.
 

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:whoa: hey akhi I only read the question and answer part it is to long to read sxb. U should have summarised it.
I guarantee you once you start reading you won't be able to contain your curiosity and you'll end up reading till the end besides you're a professor get your reading glasses on it will not just benefit you but everyone around you.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
Forget about the ordinary citizens imagine bankers are doing this to government hence the United States is indebted by over 20 trillion dollars which they will never be able to repay, just imagine if the sole superpower in the world is a debt slave then imagine us out there in Africa :ohlord:

I just see it as way to run a world government (central banks are the only institutions that matter) without having an actual world gov.

It keeps the world stable and minimizes the impact of inbred deranged kings (last emperor of Germany) or psychopathic ambitious individuals who get themselves voted into dictatorship (Hitler) and then turns the whole world into chaos. Both previously stopped by bankers funding their rivals before setting up the current global monetary system

Sure these bankers control pretty much everything but apart from a little bit of bloodshed in the middle east the world is holding up pretty good.

Somalia should hurry up and get our central bank up and integrated with Basel.

Thinking we'll ever be free of them is a naive thought and will probably get you hunted by your own people like Gaddafi.
 

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I just see it as way to run a world government (central banks are the only institutions that matter) without having an actual world gov.

It keeps the world stable and minimizes the impact of inbred deranged kings (last emperor of Germany) or psychopathic ambitious individuals who get themselves voted into dictatorship (Hitler) and then turns the whole world into chaos. Both previously stopped by bankers funding their rivals before setting up the current global monetary system

Sure these bankers control pretty much everything but apart from a little bit of bloodshed in the middle east the world is holding up pretty good.

Somalia should hurry up and get our central bank up and integrated with Basel.

Thinking we'll ever be free of them is a naive thought and will probably get you hunted by your own people like Gaddafi.
Yeah I guess the world is holding up pretty good considering the worlds sole superpower the United States of America is in debt by over 20 trillion dollars which they will never be able to repay, I wonder how the world holds up when the bankers calls all their loans in:hmm:
 

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Yeah I guess the world is holding up pretty good considering the worlds sole superpower the United States of America is in debt by over 20 trillion dollars which they will never be able to repay, I wonder how the world holds up when the bankers calls all their loans in:hmm:




They'll be out of business if they did that.

The Dollar = debt.

The first dollar since the gold standard had been debt and we'll have no money circulating if US pays of all it's debt.

Also the Fed reserve will stop earning interest as well.

Don't look at it that way anyways.... just see it as a set of rules to run a global economy more efficient then we did previously.

The fiat currency is based on trust and the more convoluted the rules the harder it is for most civilians to figure it out and so we keep trusting the system (apart from conspiracy heretics like you :farole:).


The current system won't last much longer since the US will probably struggle to grow fast enough to keep up with the debt (bad planning).

They could always "extend" it and fake the growth numbers (20% of the economy usually comes from the financial sector which is 90% bs anyways).

However sooner or later they'll probably decide on a multinational currency that would minimize the issues we've seen with the Euro.

An open currency that's based on actual goods (gold backed) or market dynamics (Bitcoin) would be uncontrollable and will lead to political entities or trillionaires that could run roughshod around the world; causing all sorts of chaos.
 
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