you mean niqab
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Celery
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No hijab too. People wear it more for comfort and a political protest rather than religious observance. In fact there’s no specific ruling on how to wear it. Many wear it as part of an anti social behaviour influenced by a victim mentality.
it’s a pretty basic part of Islam though how are you against it. Also your last sentence that makes no sense where did you get that from.
Celery
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There’s no dress manual in the Quran. Men are supposed to lower their gaze, meaning don’t jerk off to every woman. And women are not supposed to use vibrators in public and simply be modest. The actual modern hijab, and even worse the niqab are all modern political inventions. Group think and peer pressure, along with political Islam is why hijab is worn the way it is.
The Quran talks about Khimar and covering up actually.Niqab is cultural and facial veiling has been a thing in numerous different cultures Islam has nothing to do with Niqabs.You as a Muslim shouldn’t be against women choosing to cover
you should only be against women being forced to wear one
attash
Amaan Duule
You have been seen on numerous threads openly mocking Islam. If you are a kafir, say so. This is an anonymous forum.
How can I engage with an open liar? You are obviously not serious, if you were serious; you would be honest about your religious views.
The Quran explicitly states that women need to cover their bodies except for “that which is apparent” (meaning face, hands). The overwhelming consensus of scholars all state that women need to cover everything except at most their face and hands.
Stick to writing fake stories on NSFW nigga, you are out of your depth here.
Celery
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That which is apparent includes hair. The face and hands interpretation is wrong. Are you telling me people can’t be wrong?You have been seen on numerous threads openly mocking Islam. If you are a kafir, say so. This is an anonymous forum.
How can I engage with an open liar? You are obviously not serious, if you were serious; you would be honest about your religious views.
The Quran explicitly states that women need to cover their bodies except for “that which is apparent” (meaning face, hands). The overwhelming consensus of scholars all state that women need to cover everything except at most their face and hands.
Stick to writing fake stories on NSFW nigga, you are out of your depth here.
According to whom? Are you some big shiekh who studied in Madina this whole time? Or are you just being a divisive prick? You are a deviant who shouldn't be considered when talking about deen.
Celery
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Yes I studied the deen for a long long time. And I have my conclusions just like many others before me. I’m under no obligation to be agreeable and friendly to everyone’s feelings.
Modern interpretations of Islam are designed to suit political ends by the interpreters. It’s totally ok to question or even refute someone’s interpretation.
Watchu mean by that nigga, I shouldve known day 1 when your profile picture was celery That you were not okay
A degree in r/ islam MashAllah!
Celery
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I’ve done more studying than you. My sources are not just books and internet research. I’ve spent my hours with knowledgeable sheikhs in different cities.
My opinions are based on what I learned.
Whatever you say Mister Celery
Celery
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None of the controversial things I said on this forum lack basis in the Quran or Hadith. Except the satirical stuff
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Amaan Duule
"That which is apparent" means that which is hard to cover. According to most scholars this means the face and hands since it is hard to cover those areas. Some scholars though are of the opinion that covering the face is obligatory as well. Every scholar however agrees that the hair is not included in this exception because it is not physically hard for a woman to cover her hair.
Hmm who's interpretation should I value more, the consensus of Islamic scholars over 1400 years or the opinion of one gaalo troll on SSpot? Hmm very tough choice.
Celery
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Regardless of who’s interpretation you value, they are still just interpretations. Both interpretations are influenced by underlying beliefs and ideas."That which is apparent" means that which is hard to cover. According to most scholars this means the face and hands since it is hard to cover those areas. Some scholars though are of the opinion that covering the face is obligatory as well. Every scholar however agrees that the hair is not included in this exception because it is not physically hard for a woman to cover her hair.
Hmm who's interpretation should I value more, the consensus of Islamic scholars over 1400 years or the opinion of one gaalo troll on SSpot? Hmm very tough choice.
Shouldn’t you use your own brain and think for yourself? Islamic scholars are not closer to Allah or holy
Celery
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What does it have to do with?
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Amaan Duule
What a retard...
That's just not how it works. They are not "just interpretations". There are correct interpretations and there are incorrect interpretations. If the consensus of scholars over the course of 1400 years all came to the same conclusion as to what the words of the Quran mean, then this is the correct interpretation. All of these scholars came from different cultures and time periods, what else would their shared interpretation be based on except the obvious and apparent meaning of the verse in question?
Islamic scholars have been studying this tradition their whole lives, have went through formal training, and have certifications/degrees.
If I had a medical problem and had to choose between two options: taking your advice or taking the advice of the consensus of trained medical specialists, I would obviously choose the latter because the medical specialists actually know what they are talking about here. I would not dismiss the consensus of trained professionals as simply an "interpretation" that is "influenced by underlying beliefs and ideas".
But even if we took a moment to "think for ourselves" here and consider your "interpretation", it still wouldn't make sense. I have already explained what covering the body except "that which is apparent" means. Your inclusion of the hair in "that which is apparent" is completely arbitrary, as the hair is something that can easily be covered in most circumstances.
Anyways, this is my last time engaging with you since you are obviously a troll. If you came out and straight up said you were a kafir, we could perhaps take this conversation further. But I cannot continue arguing with you while you hide under false pretenses. Like I said, stick to writing fake stories on NSFW, you have no clue of what you are talking about here.
Keep it a boqol
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he didn’t know hijab was fard until @Mudug_gyal corrected him
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