Sometimes I'm just f*cking shocked about Somalia wallahi

[Yukon_Niner]

Somalia is balkanised. Congrats you've now got more than one shithole with even more ridiculous names selling themselves off to other shitty countries for less than half a million.

Looking at the Somali politics section always reminds me why every single autonomous and non-autonomous state in Somalia is still struggling with basic shit while all these idiots discuss having peace like it's an amazing thing most countries don't have and how having more land or clan members males them superior all while their home town is starving. Fucking idiotic savages.

 

[Yukon_Niner]

I have the solution, we're trying to solve the problem of ancient history, in these modern day you can't go on conquest with the whole world condemning you. Remember when you could just genocide a whole clan with overwhelming force.

And "reunionfacation" with kills hundreds of thousands . It's impossible if you take out their leadership or have it fear you . They are gonna act on their own interest.

For a guy who puts logic over everything I'm not seeing much of it here or in any of your posts. Where exactly is the solution.

 

[Admin]

Somalia is balkanised. Congrats you've now got more than one shithole with even more ridiculous names selling themselves off to other shitty countries for less than half a million.

Looking at the Somali politics section always reminds me why every single autonomous and non-autonomous state in Somalia is still struggling with basic shit while all these idiots discuss having peace like it's an amazing thing most countries don't have and how having more land or clan members males them superior all while their home town is starving. Fucking idiotic savages.

peace is a beautiful thing and is the foundation for development. more peace building and conflict resolution initiatives are needed in Somalia. i do not know why you would downplay something so pivotal to moving Somalia in the right direction. you need to change your mindset because your negativity and pessimism will not bring about positive change in Somalia.

 

[VixR]

Somalia is a fabrication. Somalis never saw themselves as one.

That’s why the whole whole greater Somalia dream is always presented with the speaker’s tribe in a position of superiority, same as everyone else, who will, of course, never allow that to happen.

Forum comments of people far removed from real impact of tribal affiliation being so gung-ho about their own tribes is definitely not a positive sign.

 

[Nomoregames2019]

Non-Somali here, I lived grew up in Puntland before the civil war started, Somalia was way better than Sudan I will tell you that. You guys fucking ruined your own country with your tribal bs, the same shit happened in Darfur, West Sudan where non-Arabic/Arabic Sudanese tribes starting fighting each other over land, which is why that place is still a mess until today.

The best strategy to destroy a country and its people isn't poverty or corruption, or even a dictatorship. It's tribalism. You see it happening in Yemen and Iraq.

 

[TekNiKo]

Somalia is a fabrication. Somalis never saw themselves as one.

That’s why the whole whole greater Somalia dream is always presented with the speaker’s tribe in a position of superiority, same as everyone else, who will, of course, never allow that to happen.

Forum comments of people far removed from real impact of tribal affiliation being so gung-ho about their own tribes is definitely not a positive sign.

I agree Somalia is a colonial construct anyways, aan kale tagno. We hate each other no matter what

 

[Abdullnur]

For a guy who puts logic over everything I'm not seeing much of it here or in any of your posts. Where exactly is the solution.

I'm just saying you can have 5 president for 1 country. And we all know no one is going volunteer to step down submit to the federal government. So strategic bloodshed is what I call it . Weather it is a clan or smaller group

 

[GoldmanSachs]

Somalia is a fabrication. Somalis never saw themselves as one.

That’s why the whole whole greater Somalia dream is always presented with the speaker’s tribe in a position of superiority, same as everyone else, who will, of course, never allow that to happen.

Forum comments of people far removed from real impact of tribal affiliation being so gung-ho about their own tribes is definitely not a positive sign.

So you're basing your assessment of Somalis based off of Somali forums? How is that fair? You don't even know your own sub-clan or clearly anything about Somali history based on the above post. Instead of considering the possibility that the politics forums on Somali websites self-select for tribal, backwards morons you paint a broad brush on all Somalis.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

I'm quite aware of the tribal section on this forum, wlahi before I stumbled on this plague I was optimistic of Somali Unity but now as I've acknowledged the various differences of these tribes it discourages any thinking person to pursue Somali Unity.

It's safe to say that if Balkanization were to occur these cunts and those endorsing the division should be held accountable for their selfish actions and national negligence .

I'm starting to question this wether
Somali Identity was innovated as it never surfaced until pre colonial era it was established after the founders of SYL and the interests of Italian Somaliland officials .
As each tribal chief were adversaries to another, they would compete for the white man under their protectorate in exchange the tribes are provided with artillery to overpower the resisting tribes
This provoked the rivals to bend over to white man's interests in the region
men would often plunder their rivals and take war booties or the spoils of wars .
They would brag about it in their primitive geeraar or gabay

Sayid Abdalla hated the Isaaqs the Majeerteins the Hawiyes but today there are monuments of him was he the main trigger

Are we better of breaking apart

Somaliland wants to secede from Somalia because they do not want to be trapped in their vicious cycle

Puntland is also a treacherous state that should had parted ways long before the establishment of Somalia I believe they are better off claiming kinship to Arabs than Somalis

Jubbaland is a satellite state that serves the interests of Kenya nothing else


Same applies to the so called states of Hirshabeele, South West and Galmudug

Unless we end this federalism bullshit and eradicate this failure we won't see a stable Somalia

These tribes are not tribes within the Somali ethnicity as they've indicated they're each separate ethnic groups.

Yugoslavia. 2


Yes I clarify this
I regret my decisions observing tribal section because the amount of braincells I've lost reading their utter pathetic bullshit I can never recover from this
They spew nothing but hate they live and feed on this
They indoctrinate this on the young minds
These people can never be enlightened
I remember this song
but braindead fuckers ruin everything


These cunts will never Take An L for Zoooomaaalia

Finally someone else realises that Somaliweyn never existed, it's just a concept brought by Meles Zenawi's federalism. Somaliland has nothing to do with the rest of Somalia, Adal and Ajuran were two very different empires and culture.

 

[VixR]

So you're basing your assessment of Somalis based off of Somali forums? How is that fair? You don't even know your own sub-clan or clearly anything about Somali history based on the above post. Instead of considering the possibility that the politics forums on Somali websites self-select for tribal, backwards morons you paint a broad brush on all Somalis.

@ bold So does Somali Politics itself. It’s tribally-based and self-selects for that sort of tribalism, even to where a far removed diaspora mocks dead bodies of rival tribes, or continues to disdain minority tribes, etc, etc.

If it was merely a forum phenomenon, that’d be something else. But its a real-life reality, down to the politics within Somalia itself.

 

[GoldmanSachs]

@ bold So does Somali Politics itself.

If it was merely a forum phenomenon, that’d be something else.

Because the broken and dysfunctional Somali political system is a perfect microcosm of the Somali community and diaspora, right?

@ bold So does Somali Politics itself. It’s tribally-based and self-selects for that sort of tribalism, even to where a far removed diaspora mocks dead bodies of rival tribes, or continues to disdain minority tribes, etc, etc.

If it was merely a forum phenomenon, that’d be something else. But its a real-life reality, down to the politics within Somalia itself.

I just saw this edit.

Somalia is a tribal based society. Justice, commerce, opportunity, etc. is largely achieved through your close kinsmen.

But how tribal is the average Somali out in the west? That's what you refuse to acknowledge. You're spending your time and paying attention to on a subset of sick people who seem to have all the time in the world on their hands to engage in FKD.

 

[Molotoff]

Finally someone else realises that Somaliweyn never existed, it's just a concept brought by Meles Zenawi's federalism. Somaliland has nothing to do with the rest of Somalia, Adal and Ajuran were two very different empires and culture.

Somaliland is a ramshackle pseudo-state sxb.

 

[Represented]

Somaliland is a ramshackle pseudo-state sxb.

No way you're bosnian bro hahaha.

 

[Ibrahim hassan]

at least they’re having discussions. it’s a step in the right direction and something we should encourage more. discussions lead to understanding.

Most of them don't want a discussion. Troll accounts like puntite, finease Dr Osman, Django and Draco. Only want people agreeing with them and following Thier commands. They just come dumb Thier info have small circlejerk then move on.

 

[Khayyam]

I endorse this thread

 

[GBTarmy]

Non-Somali here, I lived grew up in Puntland before the civil war started, Somalia was way better than Sudan I will tell you that. You guys fucking ruined your own country with your tribal bs, the same shit happened in Darfur, West Sudan where non-Arabic/Arabic Sudanese tribes starting fighting each other over land, which is why that place is still a mess until today.

The best strategy to destroy a country and its people isn't poverty or corruption, or even a dictatorship. It's tribalism. You see it happening in Yemen and Iraq.

And you are what ethnicity?

 

[Somalihustler]

When I think about it I can just remember myself ten years ago I was dreaming that ten years ahead Somalia would be stable and we would again have restored our status on this earth partially ,,,hoyadiin wasse!!

It's now almost 2020 and we are still the same sh1thole just.looking at current documentaries on YouTube you can still see shitty dry sandy roads from decades ago. It's f*cking shameful even Syria has largely become stable except for Northern part and occasional Golan conflict.

Smh we are cursed

Lol 2020 how about 22nd century...1st Jan 2101

 

[IBRAHIM.]

Take a good look at the politics section and tribal. Most of the posters are educated but the debates are centered mostly on backward tribal allegiances.

I beginning to think it’s genetic.

That place is a cancer wallahi.

 

[Misil]

@CaliTedesse you're one of the realist mf on this forum

 

[Guardafui]

Somalis have always blamed foreign powers for the chaos happening in their country but it’s obvious we’re the problem. It’s like qabil stops Somalis from functioning properly. A huge obstacle for the Somali population. Whoever comes with the solution to that will be the most remembered person in Somali history.