Our rendile cousins thought Christian missionaries were insane or stupid lol, “god sacrificed himself to himself to save himself from himself” also they were laughing at the idea of the virgin birth, “if god was with a women how could he focus on maintaining the earth? Either the earth would collapse or he would be a bad lover!”
Somalis weren’t pagans before islam
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Our rendile cousins thought Christian missionaries were insane or stupid lol, “god sacrificed himself to himself to save himself from himself” also they were laughing at the idea of the virgin birth, “if god was with a women how could he focus on maintaining the earth? Either the earth would collapse or he would be a bad lover!”
Too many somalis spread propaganda on when they became muslims to push an agenda
The only agenda those people push are scholarly facts lol. You even could look at the cycles of the Somali weekly calendar (if you are truly Somali you should know what a Monday year, a Friday year, a Sunday year is) to see when Somalis converted to Islam (somewhere in 870 ad), which means that Somalis were the first Muslim people, predating the Ridda wars wherein the Arabs converted.
it isn’t even true to say that Somalis became Muslim, its more true to say that Somalis were formed post-Islamic conversion.
The cope lmao. You can't fathom your beloved ancestors not being Muslim at some point in the past so you make up fantasies in your head that our ethnogenisis began after Islam was introduced.
Hate to break it to you but there were non-Muslim Somalis practicing their pre-Islamic religion living inland centuries after the introduction of Islam to the coastal inhabitants.
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Our Danakil cousins are still somehow nakedMan said naked
It gets a little too hot in the Danakil depression to wear clothes!
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It gets a little too hot in the Danakil depression to wear clothes!
"وجعل لكم سرابيل تقيكم الحر وسرابيل تقيكم بأسكم"
"And He(Allah) has made garments for you to protect you from the heat, and coats of mail to protect you from your violence". Surah Al Nahl ayah 81
The cave painting in laas feel clearly shows the human wearing a white robe and the Roman's were also trading their cloth with us
raxanweyne were always better Muslims than labogoodles, digil iyo mirifle waligood dintaay baay kuu adkaan.
smart enough to know the word ethnogenosis, too dumb to look it up in a dictionary and see what it means. Where were the French before the treaty of Verdun? What were the English before they crossed the North Sea? Who were the Jews before mount Sinai?
the fact that the Somali clan patriarchs are all Muslim, that Somali is defined as Muslim even by our Borana neighbors, that the nobility of Somalis is called Islam and that all the Somali kingdoms legitimatized themselves using Islam didn’t clue you in?
Somalis didn’t have a pre-Islamic religion because Somalis were formed out of Islam.
whatever ethnicity dwelled in the Somali inhabited lands and whatever they worshipped has no relation or connection to modern Somalis besides trivia and genes.
We’ve had this discussion like 30 times so I’m in no mood to argue with a Hotep Murtard named Osiris about whether the sun is green or yellow. I could recommend some Sooyal books written by both Somalis and
qaladis; or you could ask a kid what religion Somalis are, many of them say “Ma Soomali Baa Misaa waa Gaal”, proving my point lol.
qaladis; or you could ask a kid what religion Somalis are, many of them say “Ma Soomali Baa Misaa waa Gaal”, proving my point lol.
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Did somalis as a nation exist before islam? Very likely At the very least we know our neighbours in the arabian peninsula saw us as one people. How can we determent if somalis saw themselves as a single ethnicity?
Well first off let's just look at clans rather than the name somali. The primordial clans of somalia that existed before islam are samale and sab. Samale with the sagal samale and sab with digil iyo merifle. Any other clan aside from them claim arab origin, well even these two clans sometimes also claim arab origin but usually they see themselves as somalis rather than arabs.
Almost ninety percent of somalia was inhabited by samale before islam meaning a single clan and a single family. Any other clan that claim arab origin married into the samale family to became somalizised.
It's either marrying into dir or into hawiya and at times into the sab family. So yeah you could say in a way that a common identity existed before islam and these people also to a large part also spoke the same language with different dialects.
Well first off let's just look at clans rather than the name somali. The primordial clans of somalia that existed before islam are samale and sab. Samale with the sagal samale and sab with digil iyo merifle. Any other clan aside from them claim arab origin, well even these two clans sometimes also claim arab origin but usually they see themselves as somalis rather than arabs.
Almost ninety percent of somalia was inhabited by samale before islam meaning a single clan and a single family. Any other clan that claim arab origin married into the samale family to became somalizised.
It's either marrying into dir or into hawiya and at times into the sab family. So yeah you could say in a way that a common identity existed before islam and these people also to a large part also spoke the same language with different dialects.
None of these prove your point though. We didn’t experience waves of migrations or invasions changing up our language or genetic make up. Not even comparable. English and French ethnic identities are the result of centuries of migrations, invasions and an amalgamation of different ethnic and linguistic groups that ended up creating a those modern ethnic identities.
What groups did we mix with it that changed up our language and genetic profile? Apart from Arabic loanwords we adopted from historical trade, the language we speak is near identical to that of pre-Islamic Somalis.
Some clan ‘patriachs’ aren’t even African to begin with let alone Somali.
And language and a pastoral nomadic lifestyle and shared heritage and geographic region and phenotype.
I suggest you be careful next time of accusing a fellow Muslim of being a kafir for not agreeing with you on a topic
“A man does not accuse another man of wickedness or unbelief except that it will return against him if his companion is innocent.”
Sahih al-Bukhari
“Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a man says to his brother, O Kafir (disbeliever)!' Then surely one of them is such (i.e., a Kafir). "
Sahih al-Bukhari [6103]
Russians were seen as one people before their ethnogenosis under Rurik despite being divided into different mutually unintelligible languages like Merias, Veses, and Krivichs and Chuds.
Also mythologically Samales real name was Cusman and he was a Muslim, the people who lived in Somalia before Somalis were destroyed by Allah while he slept in a cave. We all know that Saab is a myth, Digil migrated into Somalia from what is now Arsi land after the oromos invaded them.
also how the hell are you arguing that “90 percent of Somalia was inhabited by Somalia” when the first reference to the word Somali comes from the Abyssinian hymn after their defeat of a Muslim kingdom in Ethiopia literally titled “Go Tell The Somalis”.
there’s no exclusiveness between claiming Somali origin and Arabic origin, all the noble Somalis do so, it is like the Poles claiming to be Sarmartian or the Irish claiming their ancestors came from Scythia.
Samaale was arab too
