you don’t have to be but you do have to be to give me an *informed opinion*. No offence online stranger but i would want someone who has studied this topic for many years to give me an opinion I can take seriously not you and Cyrus lol. Especially when you are going to call people non-Muslims for believing in it.
Somalis,( Muslims) and evolution
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you don’t have to be but you do have to be to give me an *informed opinion*. No offence online stranger but i would want someone who has studied this topic for many years to give me an opinion I can take seriously not you and Cyrus lol. Especially when you are going to call people non-Muslims for believing in it.
How hard is it to say god made humans?
I didn't call anyone non-muslims for believing in it. Don't put words in my mouth. Of course I can't give you an "informed opinion" by your standards but I can give you my opinion. This is an internet forum after all. If you're not gonna even consider anything that anyone says other than scholars and PhD holders then why discuss it here? I'm sure if I agreed with you you wouldn't be saying the same thing. Instead of offering a sound counter-argument you're copping out and pulling the "you're not an expert so your opinion doesn't matter".
yes if only we could reach such intellectual heights as you Cyrus. Maybe if one day if I smash my head into a wall enough I’ll stop asking experts who have studied a topic for years to give me an opinion and rely on troll accounts like yours to feed me information. Last post.
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
They dont even know that science goes through paradigm shifts and thing we may hold as scientific 'truths' now are subject to change in a couple of years/decades/centuries even. We have seen that with Newtonian physics shifting to Einstenian physics. At the time people thought Newtons theory of general relativity was the scientific truth until ofc a better model came up via Einstein.
We then had the transition from a heliocentric to a geocentric model. Thats why i laugh atheists who think science is their god when science itself is constantly changing and even darwinian evolution is going through these changes rn. Lamarckism evolution is picking up steam as well and may rattle Darwinist to their very core.
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
abaayo, i dont know why you are getting emotional lakin i never claimed to be an expert on the subject but that i merely have an opinion. Everyone has opinions on everything and i have a right to that.
Btw, resorting to ad homonem and childish insults like 'troll' isnt constructive.
The only one I believe is the darwinism theory. That one holds simple logic, you don't need a model to prove it. I mean if an animal has traits that prevent it from reproducing or that cause it to die before they can reproduce, its inferior traits will never be passed on, and vice-versa with the superior traits. Stuff like that have a train of thought where you can easily agree to and see it working. But when you tell me random bs about the big bang theory and how something came from nothing then don't get mad when I don't believe it
@The Bloody-Nine why did you delete your post? Doesn’t show much moral conviction if you delete something you’ve written. I’ll let the Muslim scholars who believe in evolution know that they are no longer Muslims lol.
lmao everyone’s got an opinion, that’s my point. I’m looking for an informed opinion.
I don’t think calling you a troll is an attack of any kind just an honest description of you. Were you not the same fella who was trolling everyone on this website with the akhi movement?
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
Depends on what evolution walal, human evolution?? If they beleive in every minute detail in the darwinian human evolutionary model, then they would have the colossal task of reconciling contradictory things with Islam. Religous scholars have no qualms with other sorts of evilution and the quran doesnt either but human evolution isnt compatible with Islam. The Quran is the word of God so anyone that goes against the wisdom of Allah is takfirable
My message didt come across how i wanted too, if you believe in humans coming from anything other than god you aint muslim. @Cyrus Is right about that you dont need to know any biology since that is an Islamic view.
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
Do you beleive in human evolution?
I will look into it
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
haye, come back to me when u study it and ill have questions for you to answer & tell me if it still makes sense to you
lol why isn’t it compatible with Islam? If you said God created evolution to fine-tune man then evolution would only be considered a mechanism of creationism. There is a lot of debate on YouTube on this topic being had between Muslims. I would advise you to go and watch it rather than shouting Takfir at everything. It doesn’t seem like you even know the basic arguments these people make. I don’t know the full extent of their arguments as I don’t have the time but I would urge you to do some research before you call them non-Muslims.
Will do
I don’t think anyone said that but go off sis.
Cyrus
Arabist| Akh-Right Movement|احب الملكات العرب
I have looked into those arguments but if u can show me one credible islamic scholar that believes in human evolution as broken down by Darwin- ill quit this forum. Im ready to make that leap
It seems to me that you dont even know the arguments for or against evolution and are falsely appealing to authority as a cop out. You have alreacy conflated micro-evolution with human evolution a few posts back and ur opening up a real can of worms for yourself.
Let me rephrase that if you believe humans were not directly made from Allah you are going against the quran. It clearly says
We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape
Also Adam was sent down to earth after his test how can evolution happen if Adam a human was never on earth for his "evolution".
I have looked into those arguments but if u can show me one credible islamic scholar that believes in human evolution as broken down by Darwin- ill quit this forum. Im ready to make that leap
It seems to me that you dont even know the arguments for or against evolution and are falsely appealing to authority as a cop out. You have alreacy conflated micro-evolution with human evolution a few posts back and ur opening up a real can of worms for yourself.
I don’t have the time and whoever I post you will say they are not an expert on Islam because they believe in evolution, in what is known as the “no true Scotsman” fallacy. I went on YouTube and typed Muslim scholar and evolution, and many videos came up. Anyway enough time has been wasted on you. have a lovely day Cyrus.
