Somalis Could've Reached the Jungles of Congo

Arma

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And even the Atlantic ocean off the coast of Angola. I know it sounds crazy and out of this world, but, i truly do belive we could've done it.

Let me tell you how. In the dawn to European colonialism, Daroods and Northern Dirs (not any other Somali clans) were on a march. We had just reached the Tana river in Kenya, and were heading deep into present day Oromo lands in Ethiopia. Not forgetting the fact that Somalis population was literally less than 3 million people. And thanks to their sacrifices, we Somalis have the largest land area, out of all of the ethnicities in Africa.

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I honestly believe, we Somalis could've reached present day Congo, and Angola, had the Europeans not decided to colonise Africa. It's proven, that in battle, we wipe the floor with all Bantus, Amxaaro, and Oromos.

Even today, Europeans protect Ethios and Bantus from Somalis, Russia joined Ethiopia in the 1977 war, and Britain having a massive military base in Kenya, the only British military base in all of Africa. I have no doubt whatsoever, that a war involving Somalis and other Africans, will definitely have Europeans involved on their side, as history has shown.

So, what do you guys reckon, could we have reached the jungles of Congo and the Atlantic ocean?
 

Arma

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Even 500 years ago, Portugal saved Amxaaro, from Ahmed Gurey and the Adal Sultanate. They're always calling others in wars against us. Bunch of pansies.
 

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Erm... no.

Somali pastoralists avoided tsetse fly areas since it decimated livestock and people.


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So basically Somali expansionism wouldn’t have gone further than Kenya.
 
Erm... no.

Somali pastoralists avoided tsetse fly areas since it decimated livestock and people.


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So basically Somali expansionism wouldn’t have gone further than Kenya.
Warrior nomads who defeated oromo and bantu alike wouldve been halted by flies?:camby: If flies were all it took the british wouldnt have checked the somalis.


"The pre-colonial history of what would hecome the Northern Frontier District and the
lubaland region of the British East African Protectorate is marked hy the effects of migration
by the Somali nomadic people who in the process displaced the Oromo and Rendille
communities from both regions. The Rendille and Oromo communities in turn displaced
Bantu tribes such as the Riverine Pokomo, Kamha and Giriama communities who had always
lived to the west of the pastoralist societies. Migrations by the nomadic Somali and Oromo
people would be halted in 1885 by the establishment of the British colonial rule in the region.
The Somali and Oromo people in the Northern Frontier District and the lubaland Region,
like their larger counterparts in what would become Italian and Ahyssinian territories, resisted
the onset of colonial rule from 1885 until the I 920s when superior fire power was.:av"itilable
to the British forces. By 1910, the Somali and Oromo people had accepted colonial rule as
a hard reality which they had to adopt and in the process make the hest use of their situation."
 
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TekNiKo

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We were a proud, simple people. Now we are the African gypsy looking for his next cayr cheque
 
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Even 500 years ago, Portugal saved Amxaaro, from Ahmed Gurey and the Adal Sultanate. They're always calling others in wars against us. Bunch of pansies.
I pray that europe is cursed for her crimes and that the is raped brutally. In that time somalis can attack the other cowardly enemies and take back our lands.

:trumpsmirk:

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Even 500 years ago, Portugal saved Amxaaro, from Ahmed Gurey and the Adal Sultanate. They're always calling others in wars against us. Bunch of pansies.

but ahmed gurey killed king lelabale and vesga de gama the man who founded protuguese india, his dad founded brazil the de gama senior,

we were helped by turks/ottman, they were helped by the pope he sent vesga de gama junior,

anyways i belive Ogaden would ahve expnded to zimbabwe, only the british stoppe dus,

Ogaden crossed River tana and was enslaving bantyus, the only two tribes that profited form slaves were Majerteen who bought them from omans, tanzanians slaves and Ogaden who used to capture bantus and shipp them to the arabs

ogaden crossed jubaland and took out wardey by 1820s and river tana 1850/1860s,

i have Ogaden ancestors buried in kismayo and garisa from early 1800s, heck 11 awows,

ever since jidwaq the eldest of absame moved us from sanaag after we beefed with out harti cousins because we argued over who will be sultan of darood, we have had it good, absame said we will not shed cousin blood and God in return for our decision gave us the greatest land expansion of the somali race from jigjiga all the way down to river tana,

if we had not met the white and expanded further, believe we would have had a city in southern africa called Agaha Agah/ daroodia, caghdeeria land

robert mugabi would be speaking af somali now with agah agah accent, galti dialect,

i always wondered why Ogaden/Absame expanded further south and west into imey, jubaland and garisa and there is one simple reason:

Absame was constantyl at war from habashi, oromo and otehr pagan non somali racist, so i assume this forced us to develop organisation in military and sultans/ugases necessary to defend ourselves and as a result of this we tasted victory, already won many battles and this made us expansionist by nature,

one of my awows was fighting on Sultan Ahmed Magan's side in 1890s in rift valley against the British and bantus, we actual waged war as far south as girigir and rift valley,

because we learned war from constantly fighting and were froced to create organisation/leadership, this stimulated us to expand and conqueror or be eaten alive, and this is why somalis like 1door and hawiye etc were sleeping as they were protected on the borders by Absamia as Absame too the prunt of the centuris of invasions

imagine if we did not defend the somali borders, habasshi and ahmaar would be in afgoye

if leelkase are darbi darood, Ogaden/Absame waa Darbi somali as we were the unbreakable somali walls that protected the land for centuries,

i just wonder how many jidwaq/ogadens have died defend jigjiga and imay and nogob from invasion over the centuries, thanks to their sacrifice we still have islam and somali language

if not for them and God today we would be speaking afaan oromo or be ahmaar chrtiians

how do yuo say agah in oromo/ahmaar, agash agash?
 


what a sahme, Darood has like 60% of the somali land, in somalia, 80% of all somali lands in east africa if yuo add NFD and Ogadneiya yet Dblocvk gets 4.5, he gets same share as eley who have 1 and half gobals, not even two regions as half of bakool waa cawlyahan ogaden

this is shame, its like malta getting more Mps in the eu than germany, waa shame, who the heck did darood get 60 mps and dri 60 mps and eley

car name me one whole gobal dir has or 2 whole gobal eley have? what on earth did we agree to?
:banderas:
 

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Warrior nomads who defeated oromo and bantu alike wouldve been halted by flies?:camby: If flies were all it took the british wouldnt have checked the somalis.


"The pre-colonial history of what would hecome the Northern Frontier District and the
lubaland region of the British East African Protectorate is marked hy the effects of migration
by the Somali nomadic people who in the process displaced the Oromo and Rendille
communities from both regions. The Rendille and Oromo communities in turn displaced
Bantu tribes such as the Riverine Pokomo, Kamha and Giriama communities who had always
lived to the west of the pastoralist societies. Migrations by the nomadic Somali and Oromo
people would be halted in 1885 by the establishment of the British colonial rule in the region.
The Somali and Oromo people in the Northern Frontier District and the lubaland Region,
like their larger counterparts in what would become Italian and Ahyssinian territories, resisted
the onset of colonial rule from 1885 until the I 920s when superior fire power was.:av"itilable
to the British forces. By 1910, the Somali and Oromo people had accepted colonial rule as
a hard reality which they had to adopt and in the process make the hest use of their situation."
Tsetse flies is what ended the southward migration of ancient Cushitic herders 2,000 years ago. Pack animals cannot survive in areas infested with tsetse flies.
 

Apollo

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Tsetse flies is what ended the southward migration of ancient Cushitic herders 2,000 years ago. Pack animals cannot survive in areas infested with tsetse flies.

Cushites made it all the way to South Africa (where the country is located) and mixed with San Bushman, explaining the E-M35 derived E-M293 in Southern Africa (a cousin of the E-V6 Afar lineage), especially in the semi-pastoral Khoi/Nama.

However, these were Southern Cushites, not Somalis.

The Khoi/Nama received goats from the South Cushites, but lacked tropical agricultural staples to become laandheer like the Bantu.

PS. Most Khoi/Nama today are also mixed with Bantu, so they no longer look Cushite+Khoisan only.
 

Pwyneth Galtrow

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Somalis need to return to their original diet. All the men in those images looked lean and fit, they looked as fierce as they felt. I think the original Somali diet was the keto diet; protein and fats.

You are what you eat.

I don't want to post pictures, but we have all seen the modern Somali 'warrior'.
 

Pwyneth Galtrow

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Somalis are very lucky that we do not live in West Africa. Even their women were formidable.
The Bantus in East Africa are shorter in stature and by nature were not known for warfare. That's how the Arabs managed to trade the "Zanj" people.


Ever heard of the Dahomey Amazons, a formidable army made of women only?... Reading this you may think twice about Somalis just walking all over other Africans.

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"The Amazons went through intense physical training that far exceeded anything the male soldiers were willing to undertake. They wrestled, fought, and underwent grueling calesthenics and brutally-long runs on a daily basis. They climbed a thirty-foot wall lined with thorny brambles without showing pain. Recruits were sent into the woods with just a machete and told to survive for nine days. They trained for live-fire exercises by arming enemy prisoners of war with clubs, positioning them behind a stockade, and then assaulting it and killing everyone they could catch. Yeah, it's fucked up, but that's just how it was – the Amazons were in constant competition for glory with the male units, and they knew that if anyone was going to take them seriously either at home or on the battlefield, they needed to be twice as hard as anyone else out there. And they were. They kept their weapons and uniforms clean, marched in lock-step precision, and when these women sprinted barefoot and pissed into combat beneath their unit battle flag – a Voodoo fetish made from the bones and skin of dead enemy soldiers – everyone who saw them pretty much pissed themselves and ran for it."
 

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Cushites made it all the way to South Africa (where the country is located) and mixed with San Bushman, explaining the E-M35 derived E-M293 in Southern Africa (a cousin of the E-V6 Afar lineage), especially in the semi-pastoral Khoi/Nama.

However, these were Southern Cushites, not Somalis.

The Khoi/Nama received goats from the South Cushites, but lacked tropical agricultural staples to become laandheer like the Bantu.

PS. Most Khoi/Nama today are also mixe with Bantu, so they no longer look Cushite+Khoisan only.
There is no proof that Cushites themselves migrated to South Africa, only that the San Bushman have Cushitic admixture.

They most likely intermingled in Kenya/Tanzania, which is where the Southern Cushites(who also have Khoisan admixture) live.
 

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