Can't say. Some garre claim gardheere samaale others claim irir samaale or even dir aji irir samaale while some say they're digil iyo mirfle. There are some garre in kenya that use to say that they were hawiya. Personally i think they're dir.@Garaad diinle garre from samaale
Are they hawiyah?
Garre have never claimed hawiye. They are gardheere samaale and have always claimed that. However the quranyow section of the clan is dir. The idea that Garre are digil is just a political thing and itโs not even close to the same way Gaaljecel claim they are hawiye.Can't say. Some garre claim gardheere samaale others claim irir samaale or even dir aji irir samaale while some say they're digil iyo mirfle. There are some garre in kenya that use to say that they were hawiya. Personally i think they're dir.
Early european explorer and travellers have noted that garre living in islolo, moyale, nfd, libaan somali galbeed and the borana region identified themselves as hawiya. Surprisingly today some of them have also been shown stating that they're dir.Garre have never claimed hawiye. They are gardheere samaale and have always claimed that. However the quranyow section of the clan is dir. The idea that Garre are digil is just a political thing and itโs not even close to the same way Gaaljecel claim they are hawiye.
Here are the garre mentiond by the british explorer and he calls them hawiya now the british
called both the ajuran and the garre hawiya but not all garre see themselfs as hawiya.
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In this map you can see them close to mount kenya where it said haweyah hill.
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The book name for these that are interested.
Through Jubaland to the Lorian swamp; an adventurous journey of exploration & sport in the
unknown African forests & deserts of Jubaland to the unexplored Lorian swamp.
Gabbra man Abtirsi to Quranyahow Dir
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Do you think those early explorers could have been mentioning degodia?cause from my knowledge Garre have never claimed hawiye. Quranyow claiming dir has been something thatโs been a round for a long time. I remember you posted that bajun mans abtirsi to quranyow, how old do you think that is?Early european explorer and travellers have noted that garre living in islolo, moyale, nfd, libaan somali galbeed and the borana region identified themselves as hawiya. Surprisingly today some of them have also been shown stating that they're dir.
I don't think so since degodia came much later than garre and they didn't reach all the way to islolo. It could be a political think similar to them identifying as digil iyo mirfle in southern somalia.Do you think those early explorers could have been mentioning degodia?cause from my knowledge Garre have never claimed hawiye.
As a garre would you agree with it or are they also gardheere samaale?Quranyow claiming dir has been something thatโs been a round for a long time.
Garre are one of the greatest somali explorer out there and they've been in what we know as kenya for a long time. I'd say the bajuun garre abtirsi is at least 500 years old. It's been said that they were the once that founded af madaow and kismayu before the invasion of the warday.I remember you posted that bajun mans abtirsi to quranyow, how old do you think that is?
I believe the quranyow are mahe dir cause there are quranyow in baydhabo, jilib, barawe, and other places that have been assimilated into other clans. The quranyow in LS have been pushing for those assimilated clans to join back with them. They all know their abtirsi till this day and it all goes up to dir. Tuuf on the other hand is gardheere and are proud gardheere. The only relation they have with hawiye is the mother is hawiye.I don't think so since degodia came much later than garre and they didn't reach all the way to islolo. It could be a political think similar to them identifying as digil iyo mirfle in southern somalia.
As a garre would you agree with it or are they also gardheere samaale?
Garre are one of the greatest somali explorer out there and they've been in what we know as kenya for a long time. I'd say the bajuun garre abtirsi is at least 500 years old. It's been said that they were the once that founded af madaow and kismayu before the invasion of the warday.
All i know and remember about them is that they live around the dawa river that is libaaan zone of somali galbeed gedo and mandera.I believe the quranyow are mahe dir cause there are quranyow in baydhabo, jilib, barawe, and other places that have been assimilated into other clans. The quranyow in LS have been pushing for those assimilated clans to join back with them. They all know their abtirsi till this day and it all goes up to dir. Tuuf on the other hand is gardheere and are proud gardheere. The only relation they have with hawiye is the mother is hawiye.
But I had a quick question, what are the Garre marre?
Do you know their clan or their origin I donโt really hear much about them. I heard theyโre farmers that speak maay maay as well. Some Garre try to to claim them but Iโm not really sure.All i know and remember about them is that they live around the dawa river that is libaaan zone of somali galbeed gedo and mandera.
I've also read that they're one of the few communities in their region that practices agriculture. They don't speak af maay or af garre/af karre rather they speak a unique dialect of afaan borana with a heavy somali accent and vocabulary.Do you know their clan or their origin I donโt really hear much about them. I heard theyโre farmers that speak maay maay as well. Some Garre try to to claim them but Iโm not really sure.
Interesting brother, keep up the good work walaalo all your knowledge on our people is appreciated.I've also read that they're one of the few communities in their region that practices agriculture. They don't speak af maay or af garre/af karre rather they speak a unique dialect of afaan borana with a heavy somali accent and vocabulary.
In terms of their clan i'd say they're indeed garre and i even heard of some garre sub-clans among them such as killiya from the quranyow section of garre, other than this i don't know much of their abtirsi. That being said i wouldn't be surprised if they have assimilated some foreign clans.