Somalis and Ancient Egypt

[SOMACOON]

The Ancient-Egyptians named themselves "Rageedii": "The perfect men" in their language and the Somali People use still now this name "Rageedii" with the same ancient-egyptian meaning "The perfect men". For example in somali language : " U dadaal sidii Rageedii"= Make efforts as Rageedii ,the perfect men.
Here, Some historical and linguistic proofs :
The Famous French Egyptologist Christiane D.Noblecourt , in her book "Hatshepsout ,the Mysterious Queen" detailed the expedition of Queen Hatshepsut to the Land of Punt and she said that the Ancient-Egyptians and The Puntites used to speak and communicate with the same language./
« Again the representations of the early Puntites, or Somali people, on the Egyptian monuments, show striking resemblances to the Egyptians themselves. » By Brian Brown New York: Brentano's[1923]/

Images provided down below.

A) King Barreh and his Queen Hadiyo in the Land of Punt ,Somalia,in Horn of Africa at the 15th century BC (before Jesus Christ). This is a Fresco of the trade expedition to the Land of Punt sent by Hatshepsout the female Pharaoh.In this Image,the Royal Puntite Couple welcome warmly the Ancient-Egyptians in the Land of God ,Punt ,"TA-Netjer " considered by the Egyptians as their Original Homeland . The King wears the somali traditional loincloth "Gundhate" with the dagger "Qolxad" and the Queen wears the "Garays" the official somali female cultural dress and the Somali Hairstyle with the white Cloth Headband .

) Two Somali Puntites Workers carrying frankincence for the Egyptians who came to the Land of Punt.Trade Expedition of the Queen Hateshepsout in the 15th century B-C . (1490-1470 BC) .The Somalis wear still now this traditional costume of their Egyptian-Puntites Ancestors .The white royal loincloth called "Gundhate" "Gunti" in both Somali and Egyptian languages and the cultural necklace called " Xirsi" ,"Qardhaase"

Here 3 works of art about the pharaonic Somaali cultural heritage

This Egyptian Cultural Agriculture is still preserved in the Somali Culture and Folk dance . Every people dance traditionally with their ancestral agro-pastoral way of life .

A Young Somali with the Similar Ancient-Egyptian Hairstyle .The Somalis use also this traditional Egyptian loincloth called "Gundhate" in Somali language and also in Ancient-Egyptian Language.

 

[Hafez]

I always thought that when I was learning about ancient Egyptians. They seemed a lot like Somalis to me but it could just be Cushite culture, I don't know.

 

[Forfon]

 

[Geeljire]

I definetly think there is a connection between us and ancient egypt, but you have to tread carefully discussing this. many have a habit of politicizing it and attacking you for pointing out the simalarities. We are people of the Punt after all.

For instance the many ancient egyptian words in our language is hard to ignore.

 

[Forfon]

 

[Geeljire]

 

[SOMACOON]

Even, the recent genetic research prove that the Somali DNA is exactly appropriate to the Ancient-Egyptian DNA=> Haplogroup E1b1b1a (V68) :19th century before J-Christ => Place of origin : Egypt and northern Soudan . Extract of the genetic research More recently, Tillmar et al. (2009) typed 147 males from Somalia for 12 Y-STR loci, and observed that 77% (113/147) had typical E1b1b1a1b haplotypes. This is currently the highest frequency of E1b1b1a1b found in any single sample population. Similarly, Hassan et al. (2008) in their study observed this to be the most common of the sub-clades of E-M78 found in Sudan, especially among the Beja, Masalit and Fur. The Beja, like Somalis,Sahos,Afars and Oromos, speak an Afro-Asiatic language and live along the "corridor" from Egypt to the Horn of Africa."

Comparison of Egyptian-Somali Vocabulary:

"The language of ancient Egypt belonged to the Hamitic group...Surviving Hamitic languages are spoken across a large part of North Africa and include Somali." (The english language ,A Historical Introduction," by the british historian and linguist Charles Barber .)

1) In ancient-egyptian language "Hes" = song,sing with musical instrument / in somali language :" Hees"= song,sing with musical instrument.

2) "AAR" means "Lion" in both languages .

3) "Usha" means "Scepter" in both languages .
4)In Somali-Egyptian" Shub" means a)"pour out , " b) construction made of concrete .

5) In Somali-Egyptian languages :"Sekedseked" means " Redoubling of the building blocks ,Stacked building blocks or something else .

6) In Egyptian-Somali :
Neter/Neder (divine being) Hipo/Hibo (it means "gift" and the sound "p"it is not mainly used in Hamitic languages ): Heru/Huur (a stork) : Tuf/Tuf (spit) : Habi (the Nile)/ Habi,ᵓAbi (source of water,to drink ,give him drink ) Wabi ( a river) ; Kab/kab (shoe) brq/biriq (lightning) :"Qbb/Qaboob (cold,cool,fresh ): 'ayah/dayah (moon) ; dab/dab (fire) anka/aniga (pronoun "I" ): su,asu/usi (he) ; Ka,Kaah /Ka,Kaah (Him,the man's appearance, spirit,vital essence,) ; Xi/Ki (a such ) ; Hati,Hat/Haat,Haati (widen wings,flying birds) ; medu/muud (liquid), Hoo/Hoo (to offer ) , Gundhate ,Gunti/Gundhate ,Gunti (loincloth) ,Maanta/Maanta (today,morning ); Kaua/Kaw (standard number one ,1,first ) ; NefNefi/NefNef,Neef (respiration,breath ), (Râ,Horakhty /Râh, Horrahthy (the Sun)

In Ancient-egyptian "Râ" is the sun-god / in Somali "Qor-Rah" means the "neck of Rah ,sun-god . ( Qor= neck / Rah: sun-god) the letter " a" is pronounced with the voiceless pharyngeal fricative
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7) Egyptian Somali :Awoow /Awoow (grandfather,old man) ;







Ayeeytha/Ayeeyda (grandmother,old woman, old age )

8) In Ancient-egyptian "Hun, Hunnu" = young man ,young girl/ in Somali "Hun, Hunnu,Huunno" = young man , young girl .

9) Two Somali/Egyptian Similar Names of the Pharaonic Enthronement : Sare,Hore/Sare,Hore ( the High and the First )


10)In ancient-egyptian :Ausar =god Osiris ,ancestor of egyptians /.In Somali : Ausar,= Father Sar (AW-father ; Sar), Isir,Ausar = Ancestor , venerated in the Somali Culture in the antiquity according to a Somali Historian and linguist Diriye .

11) In Somali Language "The pyramids" means "Xabaal-Maguur" =" Stable Graves "

There are many similar words somali-egyptian ,preserved in Somali language. I just shared with you some examples above but you can find many others if you fond of the Egyptology and History .
References : "Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary by Budge" ;
"Black Nations and Culture by Cheikh Anta Diop" ; "Learn Somali by Diriye Abdillahi "
Fiqi's Somali English Dictionary " by A.A Hashi 1985 .etc...

 

[Hafez]

I knew there was a link between them! My Somali friends thought I was crazy.

 

[SOMACOON]

I definetly think there is a connection between us and ancient egypt, but you have to tread carefully discussing this. many have a habit of politicizing it and attacking you for pointing out the simalarities. We are people of the Punt after all.

For instance the many ancient egyptian words in our language is hard to ignore.

There is no doubt that these people carried our genetics.

 

[SOMACOON]

I knew there was a link between them! My Somali friends thought I was crazy.

Sxb. Anyone who reads about the LAND OF PUNT, will tell you who the Egyptians were.

 

[SOMACOON]

LAND OF PUNT (SOMALIA)

"According to the Ancient Egyptians themselves , the egyptians came from the Land of Punt, the land of gods,ancestors and even , Queen Hatshepsout of Egypt (15th century B-C) said that Hathor The mistress of Punt ,her mother was from the land of Punt ,from "Buun" the ancient name of Somalia ! To conclude ,"Buun" means in Somali "Horn" and the Land of "Buun" (or Punt in european language) is located in the the Horn of Africa, in the Somali territories," by Abdisalam Mahamoud . Master II degree: History of Civilisations and Religions.


The Land of Punt, also called Pwenet, or Pwene[1] by the ancient Egyptians, was an old kingdom. A trading partner of Egypt, it was known for producing and exporting gold, aromatic resins, blackwood, ebony, ivory, and wild animals. The region is known from ancient Egyptian records of trade expeditions to it.[2] Some biblical scholars have identified it with the biblical land of Put.[3]At times Punt is referred to as Ta netjer, the "land of the god".[4]The exact location of Punt is still debated by historians. Most scholars today believe Punt was located to the southeast of Egypt, most likely in the coastal region of what is today Somalia. The earliest recorded Egyptian expedition to Punt was organized by Pharaoh Sahure of the Fifth Dynasty (25th century BC). However, gold from Punt is recorded as having been in Egypt as early as the time of Pharaoh Khufu of the Fourth Dynasty.[7]Subsequently, there were more expeditions to Punt in the Sixth, Eleventh, Twelfth and Eighteenth dynasties of Egypt. In the Twelfth Dynasty, trade with Punt was celebrated in popular literature in the Tale of the Shipwrecked Sailor.
Ta netjer[edit]
At times, the ancient Egyptians called Punt Ta netjer, meaning "God's Land".[20] This referred to the fact that it was among the regions of the Sun God, that is, the regions located in the direction of the sunrise, to the East of Egypt. These eastern regions' resources included products used in temples, notably incense. Older literature (and current non-mainstream literature) maintained that the label "God's Land", when interpreted as "Holy Land" or "Land of the gods/ancestors", meant that the ancient Egyptians viewed the Land of Punt as their ancestral homeland. W. M. Flinders Petrie believed that the Dynastic Race came from or through Punt [21] and E. A. Wallis Budge stated that “Egyptian tradition of the Dynastic Period held that the aboriginal home of the Egyptians was Punt...”.[22] The term was not only applied to Punt.
Queen Ati, shown in the reliefs of Hatshepsut, demonstrate advanced Steatopygia, associated though not limited to Khoi-San people of East It has been suggested that this may be evidence of the survival of Khoi-San cultures since the Sangoan culture in North Eastern Africa prior to the arrival of Cushitic speaking cultures in the region.[24]
The majority opinion places Punt in Eastern Africa, based on the fact that the products of Punt (as depicted in the Hatshepsut illustrations) were abundantly found in the Horn of Africa but were less common or sometimes absent in Arabia. These products included gold and aromatic resins such asmyrrh, and ebony; the wild animals depicted in Punt include giraffes, baboons, hippopotami, and leopards. Says Richard Pankhurst : “[Punt] has been identified with territory on both the Arabian and the Horn of Africa coasts. (I don't think those animals in particular are native to the Middle East) AFRICA!

Couldnt be more proud to be SOMALI!

 

[Hafez]

LAND OF PUNT (SOMALIA)

"According to the Ancient Egyptians themselves , the egyptians came from the Land of Punt, the land of gods,ancestors and even , Queen Hatshepsout of Egypt (15th century B-C) said that Hathor The mistress of Punt ,her mother was from the land of Punt ,from "Buun" the ancient name of Somalia ! To conclude ,"Buun" means in Somali "Horn" and the Land of "Buun" (or Punt in european language) is located in the the Horn of Africa, in the Somali territories," by Abdisalam Mahamoud . Master II degree: History of Civilisations and Religions.


The Land of Punt, also called Pwenet, or Pwene[1] by the ancient Egyptians, was an old kingdom. A trading partner of Egypt, it was known for producing and exporting gold, aromatic resins, blackwood, ebony, ivory, and wild animals. The region is known from ancient Egyptian records of trade expeditions to it.[2] Some biblical scholars have identified it with the biblical land of Put.[3]At times Punt is referred to as Ta netjer, the "land of the god".[4]The exact location of Punt is still debated by historians. Most scholars today believe Punt was located to the southeast of Egypt, most likely in the coastal region of what is today Somalia. The earliest recorded Egyptian expedition to Punt was organized by Pharaoh Sahure of the Fifth Dynasty (25th century BC). However, gold from Punt is recorded as having been in Egypt as early as the time of Pharaoh Khufu of the Fourth Dynasty.[7]Subsequently, there were more expeditions to Punt in the Sixth, Eleventh, Twelfth and Eighteenth dynasties of Egypt. In the Twelfth Dynasty, trade with Punt was celebrated in popular literature in the Tale of the Shipwrecked Sailor.
Ta netjer[edit]
At times, the ancient Egyptians called Punt Ta netjer, meaning "God's Land".[20] This referred to the fact that it was among the regions of the Sun God, that is, the regions located in the direction of the sunrise, to the East of Egypt. These eastern regions' resources included products used in temples, notably incense. Older literature (and current non-mainstream literature) maintained that the label "God's Land", when interpreted as "Holy Land" or "Land of the gods/ancestors", meant that the ancient Egyptians viewed the Land of Punt as their ancestral homeland. W. M. Flinders Petrie believed that the Dynastic Race came from or through Punt [21] and E. A. Wallis Budge stated that “Egyptian tradition of the Dynastic Period held that the aboriginal home of the Egyptians was Punt...”.[22] The term was not only applied to Punt.
Queen Ati, shown in the reliefs of Hatshepsut, demonstrate advanced Steatopygia, associated though not limited to Khoi-San people of East It has been suggested that this may be evidence of the survival of Khoi-San cultures since the Sangoan culture in North Eastern Africa prior to the arrival of Cushitic speaking cultures in the region.[24]
The majority opinion places Punt in Eastern Africa, based on the fact that the products of Punt (as depicted in the Hatshepsut illustrations) were abundantly found in the Horn of Africa but were less common or sometimes absent in Arabia. These products included gold and aromatic resins such asmyrrh, and ebony; the wild animals depicted in Punt include giraffes, baboons, hippopotami, and leopards. Says Richard Pankhurst : “[Punt] has been identified with territory on both the Arabian and the Horn of Africa coasts. (I don't think those animals in particular are native to the Middle East) AFRICA!

Couldnt be more proud to be SOMALI!

Their beliefs annoy the sht out of me though.

 

[Forfon]

 

[SOMACOON]

Whats up with these responses. You drinking hot chocolate? Can't respond eedo? lol
Contribute, disagree, agree. Anything ina adeer

 

[SOMACOON]

Their beliefs annoy the sht out of me though.

LOL. Can't blame them. They were once the superpower of this universe.

 

[Forfon]

Whats up with these responses. You drinking hot chocolate? Can't respond eedo? lol
Contribute, disagree, agree. Anything ina adeer

 

[SOMACOON]

The pictures of above is the same pharaoh that was mentioned in the Holy Quran.

"Fircoon" the name fircoon can't be translated by any language other than Somali.
The only language that can define the words "fir-oon" is the Somali language.
"FIR" in the Somali language means, "Generation." In the present era, one Somali would ask another Somali, "Firkaada inoo sheeg"
Meaning, "Tell us about your generation/ancestry" The word, "oon" or, "coon" in Somali means, "short"
So the translation of the word, "Fircoon" would be, "the shortened generation"
Was Fircoon Somali? Yes.
Is this something to be proud of? No.

Our ancestors played an important role in determining our faith in this future.
I honestly feel as if were paying for the sins of our forefathers, just as the Quran mentions sins being passed down by the generation.

 

[SOMACOON]

 

[Geeljire]

If niggas told me we were Pyramidial builders i would be sceptical as well.

So Somalis went from pharaonic kings to the qashin of the aduun?

 

[Hafez]

They went from Kings to Lamogoodle to Somalis.