Somaliland President meets Kenyan President, opens diplomatic mission in Nairobi

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He is just reversing the SNM rebel era game plan of trying to establish embassies unofficially in third world nations and using some local interest of that nation for brand building, but he knows they are not going to Sway the UN rules based system collecting few third world nations or Unrecognised Taiwan.

That shit at the UN and AU rules based system can never be violated thru behind the doors dal baan ku noqonaya nonsense, and those countries know that nor will they vouch for you to world powers whose hands r tied(u wanna separate go to mogadishu) is all their told after 30 years of SNM(dal waxan ku noqonaya xog, war, create SL foot print in some legal loophole status), they were uneducated wing of Isaaq.

The shit has now gone scary as many are suprised a civilian leader has emerged in SL which is not good as we prefer to see SL head down snm strategy as we know its ending always.
 

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He is just reversing the SNM rebel era game plan of trying to establish embassies unofficially in third world nations and using some local interest of that nation for brand building, but he knows they are not going to Sway the UN rules based system collecting few third world nations or Unrecognised Taiwan.

That shit at the UN and AU rules based system can never be violated thru behind the doors dal baan ku noqonaya nonsense, and those countries know that nor will they vouch for you to world powers whose hands r tied(u wanna separate go to mogadishu) is all their told after 30 years of SNM(dal waxan ku noqonaya xog, war, create SL foot print in some legal loophole status), they were uneducated wing of Isaaq.

The shit has now gone scary as many are suprised a civilian leader has emerged in SL which is not good as we prefer to see SL head down snm strategy as we know its ending always.

Isaaq did develop a strong human capital from previous kacaan govt and their elites and families and children generation in the diaspora all their hands were tied due to SNM class holding power. I and many from my clan when we talk about dabaylaha siyasaadeed waqoyi we're not too concerned under SNM class ruling and infact some said culayska dhulbahante ku maweeli and let them chase each other on something heading nowhere.
 

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Meeting the president of Kenya doesn't give you recognition or statehood.

President Faroole of Puntland used to meet President of Kenya Uhuru Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Ethiopia Hailemariam Desalegn. Not to mention President Said Deni recently met international partners and ambassadors in Kenya as well. Not sure what's so special about Irro meeting Ruto or sitting down with the international partners.

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Meeting the president of Kenya doesn't give you recognition or statehood.

President Faroole of Puntland used to meet President of Kenya Uhuru Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Ethiopia Hailemariam Desalegn. Not to mention President Said Deni recently met international partners and ambassadors in Kenya as well. Not sure what's so special about Irro meeting Ruto or sitting down with the international partners.

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At this point this is what their identity is reduced to. That is why they are even here. Ictiraaf is their definition of self, not culture, religion or anything else.
 
At this point this is what their identity is reduced to. That is why they are even here. Ictiraaf is their definition of self, not culture, religion or anything else.
Sad honestly. Long ago in the 90s/2000s Somaliland was the richest and most powerful Somali state in the Horn (Djibouti wasn't Ethiopia's main trade partner yet, SSC was a joke and Puntland was busy with internal issues and with Somalia). They wasted their leverage and golden opportunity and the result now is a Puntland that caught up economically and militarily, a formidable SSC and a trade rival in Djibouti who snatched that Ethiopian lacaag.

Basically their one track mind regarding seeking recognition made them ignore doing important development and staying competitive. Why isn't there a major road from Borama/Awdal to Ethiopia yet? Why doesn't Awdal have its own major port? These are important because countries around the world will almost always pay attention to nations that are richer and more developed than their neighbor. Puntland is the opposite, they are doing everything Somaliland should be doing like a second port in Garacad and an important roar connecting that port to Jigjiga.
 
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Sad honestly. Long ago in the 90s/2000s Somaliland was the richest and most powerful Somali state in the Horn (Djibouti wasn't Ethiopia's main trade partner yet, SSC was a joke and Puntland was busy with internal issues and with Somalia). They wasted their leverage and golden opportunity and the result now is a Puntland that caught up economically and militarily, a formidable SSC and a trade rival in Djibouti who snatched that Ethiopian lacaag.

Basically their one track mind regarding seeking recognition made them ignore doing important development and staying competitive. Why isn't there a major road from Borama/Awdal to Ethiopia yet? Why doesn't Awdal have its own major port? These are important because countries around the world will almost always pay attention to nations that are richer and more developed than their neighbor. Puntland is the opposite, they are doing everything Somaliland should be doing like a second port in Garacad and an important roar connecting that port to Jigjiga.

SL educated base in the civilian class didn't have any opportunity to govern or even provide advice to any policy change from the SNM agenda which was to use war to secure British SL territory(when they really own a section(aag ku yaalo waqoyi weeye or known as beesha dhexe), use it as leverage in any talks with Somalia in terms of disproportionate power sharing and economic quotas and Isolate Darod into South and North thru a Samaale friendly federation and a twin capital model for Hamar n Hargeisa and make everyone else yell(inta kale ma roti ba).

IOG has been facilitating this Samaale bromamce since Carta 2000 between Hawiye and Isaaq but not out of Darod hate or Samaale love but for his own selfish well being to see Somalia unsolvable so he doesn't lose his state relevancy in the Horn or economic relationships with West(renting bases) and Ethiopia(imports) and what better way to stoke division there in Somalia between Darod, Hawiye, Isaaq. The other reason he does it is he fears ISSA kick him out of power if they keep seeing Somalia is becoming a Dubai(it's kinda like future proofing his own safety and power).

SNM agenda came to an end with the election of Ciiro which was quite big shift away from the old SL posture of SNM, this doesn't mean its a good thing as non Isaaqs assume by Muse Bihi leaving as it isn't business as usual politics.

Infact it's quite dangerous as he may now actually be able to tap into SL educated class from the kacaan or their kids for policy advice about Mogadishu and making SL now a serious contender in Somalia which isn't something other clans should welcome when we already knew their game plan was to simply brand SL thru online, media, open a few suuq madow offices in Nairobi and Addis, sell it to locals aqoonsi is coming to keep them silent and then allow SNM class elites to to loot and make a coin(30 years n counting) and it was working for them and kept their pressure off Somalia(at least officially) they do work with shady isaaqs unofficially in other political mashrucs.
 
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God bless Mujahid Cirro

Meeting the president of Kenya doesn't give you recognition or statehood.

President Faroole of Puntland used to meet President of Kenya Uhuru Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Ethiopia Hailemariam Desalegn. Not to mention President Said Deni recently met international partners and ambassadors in Kenya as well. Not sure what's so special about Irro meeting Ruto or sitting down with the international partners.

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They are hosting the President of Somaliland an independent country.

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Regional leaders of Somalia shouldn't even be in Kenya, what's wrong with Mogadishu? Too scared of their own central government or non-existent security is why the IC is all based in Kenya. Either way clearly a different sitution to the Republic of Somaliland which is moving forward.

The attempts of sino-faqash alliance to stop these meetings and events is enough to tell they are actually consequential and meaningful. The diplomatic firewall around Somaliland is getting taken down brick by brick.

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They are hosting the President of Somaliland an independent country.

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Regional leaders of Somalia shouldn't even be in Kenya, what's wrong with Mogadishu? Too scared of their own central government or non-existent security is why the IC is all based in Kenya. Either way clearly a different sitution to the Republic of Somaliland which is moving forward.

The attempts of sino-faqash alliance to stop these meetings and events is enough to tell they are actually consequential and meaningful. The diplomatic firewall around Somaliland is getting taken down brick by brick.

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They are consequential and meaningful to keep SL in that aqoonsi is coming mashruc and stable and off CIIRO case locally(habar awal r waiting for strike opportunity and he knows it) to kick start a rebellion so it definitely does address his local isaaq worries but as for s
faqash unless their is social pressure locally which their usually never is, their informed it's just the suuq madow diplomacy tactics by SNM using it as a photo op to send shots to local isaaq opportunistic elites who don't like him to stay obedient to Ciiro and not think U can use the Somalia buu noo wada card as a launch pad for habar awal to strike and collect hj let's get this duli hy n settle the civil war score.

Somalis way is taqana stop n cease trying the clan poker face or deflecting to create some darod or hawiye boogeyman, it won't unify isaaq ur just denying the issue there between those damn habars since 95.
 

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They are consequential and meaningful to keep SL in that aqoonsi is coming mashruc and stable and off CIIRO case locally(habar awal r waiting for strike opportunity and he knows it) to kick start a rebellion so it definitely does address his local isaaq worries but as for s
faqash unless their is social pressure locally which their usually never is, their informed it's just the suuq madow diplomacy tactics by SNM using it as a photo op to send shots to local isaaq opportunistic elites who don't like him to stay obedient to Ciiro and not think U can use the Somalia buu noo wada card as a launch pad for habar awal to strike and collect hj let's get this duli hy n settle the civil war score.

Somalis way is taqana stop n cease trying the clan poker face or deflecting to create some darod or hawiye boogeyman, it won't unify isaaq ur just denying the issue there between those damn habars since 95.

The Hawidar capital of Mogadishu under Hawiye domination has tried it's best to subjugate a rising Somaliland but it is clearly in terminal decline. The Hawidar back is broken from too much infighting.

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The Hawidar capital of Mogadishu under Hawiye domination has tried it's best to subjugate a rising Somaliland but it is clearly in terminal decline. The Hawidar back is broken from too much infighting.

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What U talking about Hamar situation? Is that anything new? war taada ayaa loo fadhiya Dee especially hawiye and its dhuuqis on SL market telecom(plus they can slam Hargeisa into Hawiyenimo if they leave) and if they stop paying taxes U gone also not to mention Ogaden Livestock ban on Berbera which is the majority of your tax revenue not companies, what U think is going pay the bills of your govt expenses. Not to mention ur denial of the habaro situation since 95, niin hadli kara adigu ma tihid adaa yaaban to the moryans.

War Nag tag niyahow taada ayaa loo fadhiya Iyo hadi aad Si joggi doontid Caro somaliyeed or in refugee camps in Djibouti or DDS and that's even if awdal allows that corridor when U flee Mr beesha dhexe because Ogaden won't open it's corridor, your sandwiched(miiska aad saaran tahay like a lax la qali doono soon) and your playing suicide, every moryan I speak to in the suuq madow is just stunned at your people idiocy.
 
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What U talking about Hamar situation? Is that anything new? war taada ayaa loo fadhiya Dee especially hawiye and its dhuuqis on SL market telecom(plus they can slam Hargeisa into Hawiyenimo if they leave) and if they stop paying taxes U gone also not to mention Ogaden Livestock ban on Berbera which is the majority of your tax revenue not companies, what U think is going pay the bills of your govt expenses. Not to mention ur denial of the habaro situation since 95, niin hadli kara adigu ma tihid adaa yaaban to the moryans.

War Nag tag niyahow taada ayaa loo fadhiya Iyo hadi aad Si joggi doontid Caro somaliyeed or in refugee camps in Djibouti or DDS and that's even if awdal allows that corridor when U flee Mr beesha dhexe because Ogaden won't open it's corridor, your sandwiched(miiska aad saaran tahay like a lax la qali doono soon) and your playing suicide, every moryan I speak to in the suuq madow is just stunned at your people idiocy.

You talking about this clan and that clan. You completely gave up on the soveriegn state of Somalia too so why you stressing Somaliland. Choosing political death for Somalia and then thinking you can stop Somaliland with these tribal groups is wishing for too much. That's why you default to lame tactic of trying to break down Somaliland over clan lines which is not successful but it's all you have.
 

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Your posting this in the wrong forums cami, take that shit n recycle it thru Facebook or Twitter, as we niggas just look at the source or the title of the person U posted, claiming his an ambassador of what? Looting ambassador titles, posting a suuq madow embassies(without actually being one another bililiqo strike), photo ops(igu sawirs are so old now no-one bats an eyelid locally).

According to some local moryans I know who I inquired about this type of pointless exercise to find out if their is a scheme behind it(while ago) according to some, the local moryans I know who say it's just a scheme(jaad relief grant for some isaaqs in Addis n Nairobi), but it's very small is what they define it as meaning it don't last long lol and no-one is batting an eyelid as it probably has more political intentions(culays siyasadeed dhinaca Iyo gudaha Hargeisa) which they don't care for if it doesn't disrupt the looting 🤣
 

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I go easy on you cause your arguments r like rewind of SL failed arguments. Nigga your educated elites from siyad barre era and I speak to some of their kids and scoff SL Habar Engriis ayaad ku abtirsatee lakin Ana boqortoyo la yaqan ka soo jeedee.

They always respond I wish educated ruled SL not SNM rebels back then in siilanyo era as i do meet anyone who is of confirmed children of siyad era elites(irrespective of clan) to help start a revolution as they did develop from human capital not from refugee camps( most somali migrants can thank aideed for that refugee camp to single mom epedemic tower rats in the west) siyad barre didn't chase u into camps u know who did lol plus these kids they do have access to real intel and first hand accounts from a real govt which I want to combine together not just hear say(ku tiri ku teen) reports that refugee camp to the west typee of migrant somali gets.


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I go easy on you cause your arguments r like rewind of SL failed arguments. Nigga your educated elites from siyad barre era and I speak to some of their kids and scoff SL Habar Engriis ayaad ku abtirsatee lakin Ana boqortoyo la yaqan ka soo jeedee.

They always respond I wish educated ruled SL not SNM rebels back then in siilanyo era as i do meet anyone who is of confirmed children of siyad era elites(irrespective of clan) to help start a revolution as they did develop from human capital not from refugee camps( most somali migrants can thank aideed for that refugee camp to single mom epedemic tower rats in the west) siyad barre didn't chase u into camps u know who did lol plus these kids they do have access to real intel and first hand accounts from a real govt which I want to combine together not just hear say(ku tiri ku teen) reports that refugee camp to the west typee of migrant somali get


Your whole argument is the UN is going to save Somalia a country with 5 presidents that undermine and isolate themselves. A central government dominated by looters. Lol okay welcome to 2025. You are the first domino to fall as the system unwinds.

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