What are the best arguments For and Against Independence for Somaliland that can with stand scrutiny
Things that I can think of (FOR) is
1. We gained Independence in the 1960s, and for a brief moment we were independent with British-Somaliland borders.
2. We voluntarily joined so we can voluntarily leave,
3. for legitimate reasons ie that Somalia is currently in a civil-war and we don't want to be dragged in to that war
4. Their politicians are corrupt and undemocratic and we have a little bit more stable governance
(I didn't include the bombings of 88 because I don't think it is a legitimate reason for Independence)
Things I can think of (AGAINST) is
1. What reason do you have for being Independent when we are all the same people with the same culture, language, and religion. If you look at a map of an Ethnic Map of Europe you'll see all of their countries are Ethnically Homogeneous
2. The reasons you claim for Independence are nothing more than interstate quarrels that can be resolved diplomatically in a room and aren't legitimate reasons for Independence
3. The west intentionally carved up Somali territories into different regions and gave it to different countries because they didn't want a powerful Ethnically homogeneous Muslim country in East Africa hawging up all the natural resources and ocean waters,(ie the entirety of both Shabelle and Jubba rivers, the Bab-el-Mandeb strait that connects the Red sea to the Gulf of Aden, the Gulf of Aden it self, all the Natural minerals and Oil Reserves in Hawd, Puntland and Somaliland regions, and finally the Indian Ocean Making the Somali People the country with the biggest coastline on mainland Africa and the 16th biggest non Island coastline world wide. We shouldn't play into their and and fall for their tricks, we should always try and unite
4. If you are stubborn and don't care about Somaliweyn and claim that we no matter what want independence.
Isn't it a bit hypocritical to claim that Somaliland is being forced to join Somalia when they don't want to, yet you yourselves are forcing other regions that don't want to be a part of Somaliland to stay. ie parts of sool, sanaag and even Awdal
5. If those other regions where given a choice of Somaliweyn or Somaliland, they would choose Somali weyn, and the regions that would vote Somaliland are former SNM territories
6. And if former SNM territories claim Independence that would be a whole different story
because it would look even stupider and give a weaker argument for Independence because it is utterly nothing but qabyaalad, which is the weakest reasoning for Independence. And quite frankly Somalilanders will never be ok with just former SNM territories because they are no different from any other people and in order to look legitimate to the rest of the world they will always claim land that doesn't belong to them and don't want to be a part of them, making their argument look even more stupid.
So what do you think. What are the best arguments For and Against Somaliland Independence
that can with stand scrutiny
Lets try and keep this discussion Civil, don't insult each other personally and don't insult clans
Things that I can think of (FOR) is
1. We gained Independence in the 1960s, and for a brief moment we were independent with British-Somaliland borders.
2. We voluntarily joined so we can voluntarily leave,
3. for legitimate reasons ie that Somalia is currently in a civil-war and we don't want to be dragged in to that war
4. Their politicians are corrupt and undemocratic and we have a little bit more stable governance
(I didn't include the bombings of 88 because I don't think it is a legitimate reason for Independence)
Things I can think of (AGAINST) is
1. What reason do you have for being Independent when we are all the same people with the same culture, language, and religion. If you look at a map of an Ethnic Map of Europe you'll see all of their countries are Ethnically Homogeneous
2. The reasons you claim for Independence are nothing more than interstate quarrels that can be resolved diplomatically in a room and aren't legitimate reasons for Independence
3. The west intentionally carved up Somali territories into different regions and gave it to different countries because they didn't want a powerful Ethnically homogeneous Muslim country in East Africa hawging up all the natural resources and ocean waters,(ie the entirety of both Shabelle and Jubba rivers, the Bab-el-Mandeb strait that connects the Red sea to the Gulf of Aden, the Gulf of Aden it self, all the Natural minerals and Oil Reserves in Hawd, Puntland and Somaliland regions, and finally the Indian Ocean Making the Somali People the country with the biggest coastline on mainland Africa and the 16th biggest non Island coastline world wide. We shouldn't play into their and and fall for their tricks, we should always try and unite
4. If you are stubborn and don't care about Somaliweyn and claim that we no matter what want independence.
Isn't it a bit hypocritical to claim that Somaliland is being forced to join Somalia when they don't want to, yet you yourselves are forcing other regions that don't want to be a part of Somaliland to stay. ie parts of sool, sanaag and even Awdal
5. If those other regions where given a choice of Somaliweyn or Somaliland, they would choose Somali weyn, and the regions that would vote Somaliland are former SNM territories
6. And if former SNM territories claim Independence that would be a whole different story
because it would look even stupider and give a weaker argument for Independence because it is utterly nothing but qabyaalad, which is the weakest reasoning for Independence. And quite frankly Somalilanders will never be ok with just former SNM territories because they are no different from any other people and in order to look legitimate to the rest of the world they will always claim land that doesn't belong to them and don't want to be a part of them, making their argument look even more stupid.
So what do you think. What are the best arguments For and Against Somaliland Independence
that can with stand scrutiny
Lets try and keep this discussion Civil, don't insult each other personally and don't insult clans
