What good will it do for sl by having an taiwanese base, this will only anger china more.
Are they playing Russian roulette with the chinese?
Somaliland and Taiwan sign a agreement to establish relations.
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What good will it do for sl by having an taiwanese base, this will only anger china more.
Are they playing Russian roulette with the chinese?
Smh. I think 68 might've been an overestimate. Even if it's unintentional the base is actually beneficial because ti can be transferred to Chinese use but also assures that Taiwan doesn't become suspicious of this plot. And in the meanwhile getting money too.
What are your outlooks on what China might do next? The U.S. and China have been trying to subvert each other in Djibouti. The Djibouti government is also already pretty close to China. Russia recognises China's sovereignty over Taiwan so will this Taiwanese base mean no more Russian base in Zelia?
It seems like S'Land has just given China more reason to be aggressive in the region, the U.S. won't be happy about more Chinese troops to Djibouti if there is a Taiwanese base. Also Taiwan and Chinese warships bumping into each other in Somaliland waters means Somaliland could become a ground for a Chinese-Taiwanese conflict.
Moreover, I don't think this has anything to do with China, or Somaliland. I think it has everything to do with Taiwan wanting to fish in Somali seas. Farmajo granted the Chinese exclusive fishing rights in the Somali seas, Taiwan has long fished in Somali seas, but now it cannot. Recognising Somaliland will likely be its only way of continuing fishing in Somali seas - except just in Somaliland's part of the Somali Seas.
Somaliland seems keen on doing anything it can to get foreign troops into its country. They're trying to do what Farmajo did with the Turkish base ensuring security for the Somali government from foreign attack. First they tried getting the UAE in Berbera but the Emiratis pulled out. Biixi tried play it out like he made that choice, but he didn't. He tried everything he could to get the Emiratis to come to Berbera and legitimise him. Somalis seem to be trying to encourage foreign troops like Farmajo and the Turks, as well as S'Land and the UAE/British/Russians/Taiwanese, they do this to deter threats to their various governments which they cannot ensure themselves due to Somalia as a whole being under the longest and largest arms embargo ever placed on a nation in history. As well as to also legitimise themselves in the international arena.
But the question is, at what cost? Somaliland could potential destabilise itself and start a conflict between Taiwan and China in Somaliland seas. Note how the Chinese have come out today reaffirming their recognition of the full territorial integrity of Somalia. Which means they can, with the consent of the Somali government, enter all Somali territorial waters which includes Somaliland waters, and this could potentially mean a naval confrontation between the Taiwanese and Chinese - the Chinese could confront the Taiwanese navy before they even dock on the Somaliland coast. It could end badly for Taiwan, with hardly any condemnation against the Chinese actions because the Chinese were operating in Somali waters, with the consent of the Somali government in Xamar - who in turn had denounced the Taiwanese base as illegitimate and asked the Chinese to enforce by whatever means necessary its prohibition of the Taiwanese navy accessing the Northern Somali coastline. The Chinese have long wanted a reason to attack Taiwan, this foolish move on the part of both Taiwan and Somaliland may just be it.
China and Taiwan are finally going to go to war, and the first bullets will be fired in Somaliland.
It seems like S'Land has just given China more reason to be aggressive in the region, the U.S. won't be happy about more Chinese troops to Djibouti if there is a Taiwanese base. Also Taiwan and Chinese warships bumping into each other in Somaliland waters means Somaliland could become a ground for a Chinese-Taiwanese conflict.
Moreover, I don't think this has anything to do with China, or Somaliland. I think it has everything to do with Taiwan wanting to fish in Somali seas. Farmajo granted the Chinese exclusive fishing rights in the Somali seas, Taiwan has long fished in Somali seas, but now it cannot. Recognising Somaliland will likely be its only way of continuing fishing in Somali seas - except just in Somaliland's part of the Somali Seas.
Somaliland seems keen on doing anything it can to get foreign troops into its country. They're trying to do what Farmajo did with the Turkish base ensuring security for the Somali government from foreign attack. First they tried getting the UAE in Berbera but the Emiratis pulled out. Biixi tried play it out like he made that choice, but he didn't. He tried everything he could to get the Emiratis to come to Berbera and legitimise him. Somalis seem to be trying to encourage foreign troops like Farmajo and the Turks, as well as S'Land and the UAE/British/Russians/Taiwanese, they do this to deter threats to their various governments which they cannot ensure themselves due to Somalia as a whole being under the longest and largest arms embargo ever placed on a nation in history. As well as to also legitimise themselves in the international arena.
But the question is, at what cost? Somaliland could potential destabilise itself and start a conflict between Taiwan and China in Somaliland seas. Note how the Chinese have come out today reaffirming their recognition of the full territorial integrity of Somalia. Which means they can, with the consent of the Somali government, enter all Somali territorial waters which includes Somaliland waters, and this could potentially mean a naval confrontation between the Taiwanese and Chinese - the Chinese could confront the Taiwanese navy before they even dock on the Somaliland coast. It could end badly for Taiwan, with hardly any condemnation against the Chinese actions because the Chinese were operating in Somali waters, with the consent of the Somali government in Xamar - who in turn had denounced the Taiwanese base as illegitimate and asked the Chinese to enforce by whatever means necessary its prohibition of the Taiwanese navy accessing the Northern Somali coastline. The Chinese have long wanted a reason to attack Taiwan, this foolish move on the part of both Taiwan and Somaliland may just be it.
China and Taiwan are finally going to go to war, and the first bullets will be fired in Somaliland.
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Marshall D Abdi
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Nacalaa what have we somalis done too ppl from another coutinent note even in same Region nor even in africa bit ASIA fighting in somali seas nacalaa 68 iq dumb ppl
I think the U.S. will be livid at Somaliland and apply pressure on Somaliland to end the Taiwanese base. Not because the U.S. doesn't want a confrontation between it and China, but because it doesn't want Taiwan to give China an easy excuse to swallow it.
Marshall D Abdi
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Does that mean us will side with sl n maybe recog?
Truth is, Somaliland strategically is a liability for the U.S.
The Somaliland government is between bringing Russians to Zelia or the Taiwanese which could legitimise the Chinese war against Taiwan. So in essence, Somaliland needs to stop trying to base foreign troops in its country. It destabilises the region and U.S. interests.
No, it means the U.S. will lose its Taiwan card over China. It means China will have the legality to wage war against Taiwan. The U.S. never established a military alliance with Taiwan. Trump won't risk war with China to try and save Taiwan. No American president would.
Nobody cares what you think an American president should or shouldn't do. It's no coincidence they've had two naval ships patrolling the South China Sea. Taiwan is already under America's protection. Like it or not. Their government is the legitimate one, not the one-party oppressivecommunist anti-religion dictatorship that won power militarily.
Marshall D Abdi
Know you’re place peasant
fam what taiwan is vassal state for china
Just in, China is conducting naval drills in the Gulf of Aden after Taiwan hints at a naval base in Somaliland
China conducts naval drill off the coast of Somaliland in response to possible Taiwanese base
China conducts naval drill off the coast of Somaliland in response to possible Taiwanese base
Also Taiwan backs down from a formal recognition of Somaliland, they have downgraded the office from an embassy to a representative office. The foreign minister of Taiwan can be heard here saying Taiwan is not establishing formal diplomatic ties with Somaliland and only setting up a representative office. This disproves lies that Somaliland was recognised by Taiwan. Countries that recognise each other have embassies. Representative offices isn't that. States in America have representative offices in each other's states, regions have it overseas. Like New York State has a representative office in London.
Taiwanese FM: "We won't be establishing official diplomatic ties with them"
Taiwanese FM: "We won't be establishing official diplomatic ties with them"
They never said (SL & TW) said full diplomatic recognition.
Since the start it was just establishing bilateral relations and rep office.
Somalia: China don't care about you, China approached Somaliland to have a rep office in Hargeisa in exchange to stop taking to Taiwan.
...just to prevent Somaliland and Taiwan from est. relations with each other. In other words, they were willing to break ties with you just to prevent Taiwan from having another ally. In this game of international relations, they don't care about the people of Somalia.
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