Somaliland’s Minister of Interior chased from Saylac town

[Araabi]

That guy is right mamasn always used to border Habar awals on the coast near bulhar we fought there all the time.
From 1889
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Heres a video of ciises living in ceel sheekh duriing Cirro Election which gadabursi live nowhere near

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And what is your point? The surroundings of Zeila was purely Afar and Gadabursi until the mid 1880's.

The Afar migrated westward and thats when you arrived.

 

[Araabi]

Alfred bardey said the treaty would never work because you didn't have coast and he was right. Alfred been through Gadabursi territory like mutliple times btw


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Rimbaud, Paulitschke, Reclus who all went to the coast were wrong but the colonial India Office which played can politics to favour the nomadic Ciise clan because they have no permanent settlement were right? Even the British made the admission:

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Isn't this the same source you used:
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The route from Zeila to Harar that passed through Issa territory was shared with the Nole Oromo. Our route was exclusively Gadabursi, shorter, quicker and more direct.

And what is your point? The surroundings of Zeila was purely Afar and Gadabursi until the mid 1880's.
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The Afar migrated westward and thats when you arrived.

75 % of Zeila are Issas this from an eye acount witness who came studied the town and people 1884

About the surroundings ciise controlled it all we even used to sell the salt in toqoshi
To Harar for high prices 1876

 

[Araabi]

Alfred bardey said the treaty would never work because you didn't have coast and he was right. Alfred been through Gadabursi territory like mutliple times btw


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How coincidental that the British who made a treaty asking the Gadabursi to use their ports all of a sudden after the French Treaty was signed, they remembered how actually it was the non permanent Ciise nomads who the area belonged to?

Your rationale sounds ridiculous.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Rimbaud, Paulitschke, Reclus who all went to the coast were wrong but the colonial India Office which played can politics to favour the nomadic Ciise clan because they have no permanent settlement were right? Even the British made the admission:

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The French said you lied about your coastal territory and thats why your deal fell though. Gadabursi have farmers that why they werent as nomadic

Theres pictures of ciises living in saylac in 1890 just stop yapping your finished

 

[Garaad Awal]

75 % of Zeila are Issas this from an eye acount witness who came studied the town and people 1884

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About the surroundings ciise controlled it all we even used to sell the salt in toqoshi
To Harar for high prices 1876
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They live in an alternate reality. Ciise & us Sacad Muuse know very well what the previous border used to be like. Interestingly many of the HA clans that lived on the SL coast had left for Jabuuti just like the Ciise. This depopulation gave way for Samarone migration to the coast. These are people who knew nothing of the sea/coast nor of trade.

 

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[Ugas.Wacays]

How coincidental that the British who made a treaty asking the Gadabursi to use their ports all of a sudden after the French Treaty was signed, they remembered how actually it was the non permanent Ciise nomads who the area belonged to?
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Your rationale sounds ridiculous.

Thats because ciise allowed gadabursi to use saylac port. The British were clear when they said you had to cross ciise territory.

The British also clearly stated that Zeila port belonges to ciises and they mentioned our 600 huts in the city

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

They live in an alternate reality. Ciise & us Sacad Muuse know very well what the previous border used to be like. Interestingly many of the HA clans that lived on the SL coast had left for Jabuuti just like the Ciise. This depopulation gave way for Samarone migration to the coast. These are people who knew nothing of the sea/coast nor of trade.

Facts even when you give them proof they deny. Even today 90% of awfal coast belongs to ciise
Look at lughaya
From hadayte to ceel shiekh we still live there gadabursi only have like 15km of coast today

 

[Aaqil]

They live in an alternate reality. Ciise & us Sacad Muuse know very well what the previous border used to be like. Interestingly many of the HA clans that lived on the SL coast had left for Jabuuti just like the Ciise. This depopulation gave way for Samarone migration to the coast. These are people who knew nothing of the sea/coast nor of trade.

The Somalis that built the economy of Jabuuti and were the merchants and traders of the city were Isaaq iyo Samroon not Ciise as they're nomads with no purchasing power

 

[Araabi]

The French said you lied about your coastal territory and thats why your deal fell though. Gadabursi have farmers that why they werent as nomadic


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Theres pictures of ciises living in saylac in 1890 just stop yapping your finished


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Both the French and British signed treaties with the Gadabursi before they signed with the Issa.

Both powers:

Gadabursi British Treaty dated December 11th, 1884:

British Ciise Treaty dated 31st December, 1884:

French Gadabursi Treaty dated March 25th 1885:

French Issa Treaty, dated 26th March 1885:

Both powers signed with the Gadabursi before the Issa. That was no accident. They knew the predominant community. Not a nomadic unsettled population that moves everything searching for rain.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

The Somalis that built the economy of Jabuuti and were the merchants and traders of the city were Isaaq iyo Samroon not Ciise as they're nomads with no purchasing power

 

[Araabi]

Thats because ciise allowed gadabursi to use saylac port. The British were clear when they said you had to cross ciise territory.

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The British also clearly stated that Zeila port belonges to ciises and they mentioned our 600 huts in the city
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The Gadabursi trade in Zeila was greater than the Ciise trade, when the European powers first came it was the Gadabursi they negotiated trade deals with:

 

[Garaad Awal]

He’s Habar Yoonis. He doesn’t even exist in Djibouti

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Both the French and British signed treaties with the Gadabursi before they signed with the Issa.

Both powers:

Gadabursi British Treaty dated December 11th, 1884:
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British Ciise Treaty dated 31st December, 1884:
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French Gadabursi Treaty dated March 25th 1885:
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French Issa Treaty, dated 26th March 1885:
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Both powers signed with the Gadabursi before the Issa. That was no accident. They knew the predominant community. Not a nomadic unsettled population that moves everything searching for rain.

Now your just yapping i have debunked all of your sources. The British and French governments said you were landlocked which was true.

The British signed that treaty about the The port of Zeila because gadabursi used come there for trade

 

[Araabi]

He is right, it was the Gadabursi who built Djibouti:

The same Hadji Dideh that the French knew commanded the coast:

 

[Araabi]

Now your just yapping i have debunked all of your sources. The British and French governments said you were landlocked which was true.

The British signed that treaty about the The port of Zeila because gadabursi used come there for trade
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Why would they sign with us before you unless they knew for a fact that you are only a nomadic population:

So they signed with a population that only uses the ports and signed later with the population that owns the ports?

Lol, the mental gymnastics.

 

[Aaqil]

Ciisow you're poor you don't actual settlement or urban town in here.

This is how Shiinle the capital of Siiti region looks like.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

The Gadabursi trade in Zeila was greater than the Ciise trade, when the European powers first came it was the Gadabursi they negotiated trade deals with:
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That essay your using is not even accurate. Richard burton book clearly stated that ciises were the one escorting him im pretty sure they were mamasan.

 

[Aaqil]

He’s Habar Yoonis. He doesn’t even exist in Djibouti

Habar Yoonis are there as the first head of Djbouti Police after indepedance was HY oo Isxaaq ka so jeeda