Somalia will be a multi-ethnic society

[Varriris]

Yeah it depends how far back you go, Somali and Oromo would've been the same tribe if you went back 3,500 years since that's around the time we split into the groups that would become modern Somali. Go even further 9,000 yesrs and all of us would've been cushites in Sudan.

when you say oromo, do you mean boranas only or?

 

[Khaem]

when you say oromo, do you mean boranas only or?

Technically yeah but idk if there's other groups that were decended fully from original oromo tribes. Any oromo that's from the highlands would be way more distant to Somalis than a Borona.

 

[3LetterzMM]

Ajnabi are the least of our worries with the amount of kids that Somalis have back home it’s impossible for us to get our country taken over. Live and let live especially with the madows y’all needa stop dat shkt y’all forced them to live here as slaves none of them want to voluntarily be here and get killed in clan wars. These folks are Muslim and the average person just wants to live their life in peace and be treated like human stop being hassid allah is gonna check u guys for that bullshit one day.

 

[Kisame]

Ajnabi are the least of our worries with the amount of kids that Somalis have back home it’s impossible for us to get our country taken over. Live and let live especially with the madows y’all needa stop dat shkt y’all forced them to live here as slaves none of them want to voluntarily be here and get killed in clan wars. These folks are Muslim and the average person just wants to live their life in peace and be treated like human stop being hassid allah is gonna check u guys for that bullshit one day.

These niggas beef with caribbean and west Africans in the UK and suddenly start hating on Somali bantus

Somali bantus don't even live in Europe. Like 99% of their haters are European niggas that have never met a Somali bantu person .

Somali bantus can't even comfortably post on social media without one of these jobless haters attacking them for calling themselves "Somali"

 

[New World]

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[3LetterzMM]

These niggas beef with caribbean and west Africans in the UK and suddenly start hating on Somali bantus

Somali bantus don't even live in Europe. Like 99% of their haters are European niggas that have never met a Somali bantu person .

Somali bantus can't even comfortably post on social media without one of these jobless haters attacking them for calling themselves "Somali"

A sad pathetic bunch they seriously think they are above the Bantu wallahi I don’t want to be associated with such arrogant people that have nothing to be boastful about. Crying about Bantu but god forbid someone tells you to leave the white mans country suddenly it’s a problem and basic human rights matter delusional ass niggas.

 

[Unicorn]

These niggas beef with caribbean and west Africans in the UK and suddenly start hating on Somali bantus

Somali bantus don't even live in Europe. Like 99% of their haters are European niggas that have never met a Somali bantu person .

Somali bantus can't even comfortably post on social media without one of these jobless haters attacking them for calling themselves "Somali"

Uk somalis are the most tribalist diaspora

 

[Varriris]

Uk somalis are the most tribalist diaspora

The most questionable muslim diaspora is from that miserable island, not just somalis.

emotional losers who can’t let go of whatever anti-refugee abuse they faced by other blk ppl when they first arrived in the UK, instead they’ve been wilding online for close to a decade and made us the face of anti-blkness

 

[New World]

Somalia is for the Somalis.​

 

[Sigmundd]

qabilism should be abolished and barred from Somalia and they should begin giving citizenship to half somalis with somali mothers. It's arrogant to dismiss mixed children with Somali mothers.

 

[Jimmy Hopkins]

When I see discussions like these I just think people honestly just hate themselves.

Somalia's Homogeneity is a Strength and a Blessing in Disguise and seeing people swear up and down that if we import thousands of people who simply don't look like us nor speak the same language and share the same culture as us will magically just solve our issues then you are gravely mistaken.

The Truth is you guys hate yourselves and Somalis and try so desperately to hide your true desires by injecting Politics and Governance in front of it but the Truth is seeping through your lies and very visible.

 

[Shimbiris]

When I see discussions like these I just think people honestly just hate themselves.

Somalia's Homogeneity is a Strength and a Blessing in Disguise and seeing people swear up and down that if we import thousands of people who simply don't look like us nor speak the same language and share the same culture as us will magically just solve our issues then you are gravely mistaken.

The Truth is you guys hate yourselves and Somalis and try so desperately to hide your true desires by injecting Politics and Governance in front of it but the Truth is seeping through your lies and very visible.

Ethnonationalism is a modern delusion. Human beings have been migrating and intermixing since the dawn of our species, even during the Paleolithic. You and I are the result of Prehistoric Egyptians and Sudanese intermixing to form Bronze-Age Nubians who then migrated into the Horn and mixed a bit with local Hunter-Gatherers and then later received some doses of South Arabian admixture.

The English are the result of Celtic tribes overrunning Anatolian Neolithic Farmers and some European HG holdouts only to eventually be conquered and overrun by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes themselves, only for that group to also be conquered and influenced by the Normans to some extent as well.

To say nothing of the fact of the deeper mixed natures of both ours and the English's deeper genetic components like Ancient North Eurasian being ~30% East-Asian-related or our MENA ancestors having ANA admixture themselves. Don't get me wrong, though. I am a patriot. I love the Somali language. I love our dhaqan, our diin, our tariikh and even our looks. But I also love humanity, saaxiib. We are all bin adan, all God's creations.

And if in the future Somalis are not brutalized, marginalized or mistreated in any way in a multi-ethnic Somalia then I wouldn't care at all if in 500 years the average Somali becomes 20% Indian, 15% Filipino, 30% Arab or whatever else. Nothing has changed but phenotype; they will still be human beings and hopefully Muslims. It is the natural course of history and it would be an honor that our country might someday be so prosperous and safe as to attract people from all over the world and be able to give them opportunities whilst still keeping Somalis themselves comfortable.

Patriotism, saaxiib. Not ethnonationalism. The latter is a mentally ill modern invention and the stuff of genocides. Don't catch the taint.

 

[Midas]

You and I are the result of Prehistoric Egyptians and Sudanese intermixing to form Bronze-Age Nubians who then migrated into the Horn

I disagree with this part
but agree with yourself overall message. Even if hundreds of years from now my descendants are some weird hybrid mix of somali/scandavian/native American/African American as long as they don't stop claiming their warsangeli im satisfied

(Jk about the last part dont kill me)

 

[Shimbiris]

I disagree with this part
but agree with yourself overall message. Even if hundreds of years from now my descendants are some weird hybrid mix of somali/scandavian/native American/African American as long as they don't stop claiming their warsangeli im satisfied

(Jk about the last part dont kill me)

I KNEW YOU WERE A QABIILIST SECTARIAN OP!

jk jk

 

[Midas]

I KNEW YOU WERE A QABIILIST SECTARIAN OP!

jk jk

What can I say qabil is the true curse of ham

 

[LacagChaser]

Watch till the end

 

[Jimmy Hopkins]

Ethnonationalism is a modern delusion. Human beings have been migrating and intermixing since the dawn of our species, even during the Paleolithic. You and I are the result of Prehistoric Egyptians and Sudanese intermixing to form Bronze-Age Nubians who then migrated into the Horn and mixed a bit with local Hunter-Gatherers and then later received some doses of South Arabian admixture.

The English are the result of Celtic tribes overrunning Anatolian Neolithic Farmers and some European HG holdouts only to eventually be conquered and overrun by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes themselves, only for that group to also be conquered and influenced by the Normans to some extent as well.

To say nothing of the fact of the deeper mixed natures of both ours and the English's deeper genetic components like Ancient North Eurasian being ~30% East-Asian-related or our MENA ancestors having ANA admixture themselves. Don't get me wrong, though. I am a patriot. I love the Somali language. I love our dhaqan, our diin, our tariikh and even our looks. But I also love humanity, saaxiib. We are all bin adan, all God's creations.

And if in the future Somalis are not brutalized, marginalized or mistreated in any way in a multi-ethnic Somalia then I wouldn't care at all if in 500 years the average Somali becomes 20% Indian, 15% Filipino, 30% Arab or whatever else. Nothing has changed but phenotype; they will still be human beings and hopefully Muslims. It is the natural course of history and it would be an honor that our country might someday be so prosperous and safe as to attract people from all over the world and be able to give them opportunities whilst still keeping Somalis themselves comfortable.

Patriotism, saaxiib. Not ethnonationalism. The latter is a mentally ill modern invention and the stuff of genocides. Don't catch the taint.

But Somalis as "mixed" occurred thousands of years ago rather than something outright recent.

And if they've maintained that Homogeneity for Thousands of Years up until this point due to Geography, Customs and Lifestyle Unintentionally then they can maintain it Intentionally.

I'm not denying that Migration and Intermixing doesn't indeed happen or that I'm against it (well depending on context)

You said you'd be ok with it but I would be deeply upset if the Average Somalis become "20% Indian, 15% Filipino 30% Arab" in the forseeable future. First our Lands are carved up with no Sense of Direction at getting them back and then the Native Population is now gone? I'm sorry saxiib but no Ethnic Group would ever tolerate these Collection of Circumstances and it would be a Horrible End for Somalis to experience such.

Ethno-Nationalism that doesn't discriminate against others is the Goal.

What does a "Multi-Ethnic Somalia" even do? The West has skewed ,any People's Perceptions on Multiculturalism as an Absolute Advantage when Circumstance chooses whether or not Multiculturalism thrives and in the case of the Somali Peninsula it simply doesn't.

Saxiib I'm not disagreeing that we are indeed Humans, yes but look at the Context of Somalis and their History and Lands and ask yourself if being "Multi-Ethnic" will do them any better when they Ancestral Lands are Missing and they've been "Mixed" before they ever had the chance of consolidating them.

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[Fit~Prince]

I'm an ethnonationalist and proud. We will float these half-cast demons down the Indian Ocean, inshallah!