Somalia - Somaliland Talks

[TheMadMullah]

What are their qabiils?

We are talking about a nation now not your normal daily clan fiefdoms that will come later tuulo boy
When we addressing the governors

 

[Mozart]

One and only Edna Aden will also be present

 

[TheMadMullah]

One and only Edna Aden will also be present

93 year old with dementia lol

 

[TheMadMullah]

Ictiraafstan picks

muse 80+ years
Edna 93 years
Saleeban gaal 90+ years
Faratoon 87 years

among others

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Ictiraafstan picks

muse 80+ years
Edna 93 years
Saleeban gaal 90+ years
Faratoon 87 years

among others

Do you even have old people in Somalia?

 

[xabashi]

Allies of Somalia like Egypt or Eritrea would be much better mediators for this meeting, rather than communist Ethiopia, the enemy of Somalia.

You seem to be a genius . Can you also tell us how you're gonna bring Somaliland to the table without Ethiopian persuasion and diplomatic efforts? Or are you gonna have the meeting without Somaliland ? Sure, for a genius this could be an alternative . Even with Ethiopia using its very good relations with Somaliland, it was very hard to bring Somaliland to the table while Somalia is trying to block every development and investment in Somaliland. You should be thanking PM Abiy by now for not wanting a disintegrated Somalia.

 

[kickz]

Time to end this stalemate

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

You seem to be a genius . Can you also tell us how you're gonna bring Somaliland to the table without Ethiopian persuasion and diplomatic efforts? Or are you gonna have the meeting without Somaliland ? Sure, for a genius this could be an alternative . Even with Ethiopia using its very good relations with Somaliland, it was very hard to bring Somaliland to the table while Somalia is trying to block every development and investment in Somaliland. You should be thanking PM Abiy by now for not wanting a disintegrated Somalia.

Abiy makes little difference to sovereignty.

 

[kickz]

 

[SilentE1001]

 

[kickz]

 

[kickz]

 

[Yusuf M]

This is another meeting bound to fail. Nothing positive will come out of it. We know SL will not give up seeking recognition and Xamar won't accept SL as an independent nation. The stalemate will continue.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

This is another meeting bound to fail. Nothing positive will come out of it. We know SL will not give up seeking recognition and Xamar won't accept SL as an independent nation. The stalemate will continue.

That's nice.

 

[TimaJilic]

This came after Somalia accepted two conditions in which Somaliland requested before any dialogue:

1. We were two separate countries before the unity in 1960.

2. Somalia and Somaliland will talk as a two equal states.

 

[Som]

This came after Somalia accepted two conditions in which Somaliland requested before any dialogue:

1. We were two separate countries before the unity in 1960.

2. Somalia and Somaliland will talk as a two equal states.

It's an interesting scenario. Who is proposing this confederation? Somaliland or Somalia.

 

[Invader]

What other choice do we have. We should’ve done it long time ago get pro-Icatiraf mps in xamar. But capital change and two term presidency sounds enticing

Not worth it bro.
We don't want to end like the Quebecois

 

[Invader]

You see how they express Somaliland as a separate entity.


If they even declare unity it isn't going to end well for stability and Muuse Bixi.

Berbera port is what they want because Djibouti terminated DP world contract

 

[Som]

United Somalia dream died in 1991, noone cares about what Ethiopia or the west wants. The people of Somaliland dont want to unite with Somalia.

On top of that how is Somaliland supposed to unite with Somalia when they have been in turmoil for the past 30 years fighting moryaanism first and now terrorist? What would Somaliland gain from it? Absolutely zero.

Somaliweyn dream died in in 1991, buried in a coffin six feet under the sooner you realize the better.

Somaliland ictiraaf will be' hard to achieve without a deal with Somalia. If you guys want full recognition you need to negotiate with Somalia. The two governments need to talk about how to separate, if Somalia accepts your independence you will become a fully recognized country within months but if it doesn't you will stay without ictiraaf for another 30 years and this won't be good for your people.
At this point reunification is unlikely, but still an option. If somalia reunites somaliland would definitely be the most influential part of the country and would be able to use the resources of a much bigger territory. I know you don't care about this but it's definitely something that Bixi will take in consideration

 

[Som]

No matter who you support this is a meeting between somalis. Hope the three somalis (bixi, farmaajo and Guelle) will be able to talk as equal somalis without too much interference from Abiy.
Somalis need to talk to each other, if do this with mutual respect everyone will benefit.