Somalia Says No To Continued Ethiopian Presence Past 2024 And Quint Partners Concur

[Pastoralist]

they have way closer ally in sudan if they want to put troops somewhere and apply pressure on addis ababa and ethiopia. their important areas has natural defense wall from somalia with ethiopian highlands. since fall of govt most of the governance in somalia whether its fgs 4.5 or fms its all pushed by ethiopia to create a subserviant somalia. Look at jubbaland last couple weeks kenya mediating between madobe and HSM this shows u there is no somalia.

This is HSM gaajo tactics. He went to Kenya to solve differences with sharif and runs to Kenya to solve differences with madobe. A true paper tiger.

UAE is not to be trusted and the same goes for sisi. He’s a slimy bastard who’s had his media lambast Somalia for all to see. True allies, like turkey, azerbijan, Serbia, and Italy have yet to do anything of such magnitude like talking crap to our presidents face, but sisi did it the first week he declared himself an ally. So we are in agreeance for Egypt, the only thing giving them weight is the Eritrean co-sign.

you need to be realistic bro. FGS if it was that easy would have done it last 17 years. These regions have willingly decided to allign with ethiopia. Being part of ATMIS is very dangerous at least 3500 african soldiers died in somalia since 2007 and thousands more wounded. Imagine egypt trying to fight al shabab, regions state ethiopian proxies and ethiopia itself. Egypt is not that gaajo to spill blood for no reason. they want to pressure ethiopia and cause chaos for them to get leverage on nile negotiations they dont care about somalia it has no importance to them. egypt probably praying weapons they delivered falls into al shabab hands who dont give a dam and will start war with ethiopia

Well SNA has been mishandled for at lease 13 of those 17 years. You can’t tell me about being realistic when we saw Odawa making Swiss cheese out of AS anytime they met on land in 2017-2022 with NISA intelligence. SNA was playing defensive at the time, however dozens of attacks and little harm to SNA was done, to the point where SNA are having fun killing khawarji. NISA fahad+SNA Odawa is deadly and it’s the reason why Hassan wanted Fahad to join him early in his term.

those soldiers deaths were not in vain, however it does not grant them living space, they knew what they signed up for. AMISOM came as assistance not as conquerors, if they are the latter, Hassan probably won’t do anything, but a real leader would instead of asking for them to stay in AUSSOM for another 4 years.

 

[Hilmaam]

This is HSM gaajo tactics. He went to Kenya to solve differences with sharif and runs to Kenya to solve differences with madobe. A true paper tiger.

UAE is not to be trusted and the same goes for sisi. He’s a slimy bastard who’s had his media lambast Somalia for all to see. True allies, like turkey, azerbijan, Serbia, and Italy have yet to do anything of such magnitude like talking crap to our presidents face, but sisi did it the first week he declared himself an ally. So we are in agreeance for Egypt, the only thing giving them weight is the Eritrean co-sign.



Well SNA has been mishandled for at lease 13 of those 17 years. You can’t tell me about being realistic when we saw Odawa making Swiss cheese out of AS anytime they met on land in 2017-2022 with NISA intelligence. SNA was playing defensive at the time, however dozens of attacks and little harm to SNA was done, to the point where SNA are having fun killing khawarji. NISA fahad+SNA Odawa is deadly and it’s the reason why Hassan wanted Fahad to join him early in his term.

those soldiers deaths were not in vain, however it does not grant them living space, they knew what they signed up for. AMISOM came as assistance not as conquerors, if they are the latter, Hassan probably won’t do anything, but a real leader would instead of asking for them to stay in AUSSOM for another 4 years.

Somalia is colony of Ethiopia and Kenya talking will not accomplish anything no matter who in power. Ethiopia stated they will not leave the border regions and troops it deployed will stay , they even arresting people in gedo.
HSM has faults but as president he did more against al shabab then everyone before him. The macwsiley might blow up in his face but for now not bad move and lesser of two evils

All these FMS will kee chosong outsiders over fgs no matter who in power. Is fgs supposed to go war against FMS and al shabab. Fgs has rotten foundation and I doubt will ever succeed. Somalia civil war still happening behind scenes majority of beefs u will be able to trace back to the different jabhads and rebel groups

 

[Zak12]

How Somalia defeat Kenya when they are in jubbaland

I didn't say anything about Jubaland. That is an internal issue.

2023 they killed 50 soldiers one attack forget all the other attacks

Never said they don't happen but compared to the intensity of the late 2000s and early 2010s, its nothing.

Egypt gave weapons like anti tank

They are mainly sending in small arms and artillery and vehicles. Anti aircraft and anti tank stuff are bonuses. Egypt is trying to empty their old stock of weapons.

and they were nowhere to be found

Because they are under Uncle Sam's thumb, what were they supposed to do? And besides, like you said, they only do things for their own interests. Somalia's misfortune wasn't a factor for them since they had their own problems.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

It is looking like Ethiopia will try to break the deadline set for it by the Somali gov. They have now reportedly brought many more troops into Somalia.

The FGS may be discredited internationally if Ethiopia does not repudiate the MOU and stays in Somalia past the 31 Dec deadline. If that happens, Somalia will either have to move militarily against Ethiopia, or do nothing. It will almost certainly do nothing, making it look even more feckless.

Hasan Sheekh is sending soldiers to Raas Kaambooni but is doing absolutely nothing to get Ethiopia's troops to leave if they have refused to repudiate the MOU. He is prioritizing his reelection over the protection of the country's sovereignty.

Things don't look good.

 

[Sup]

It is looking like Ethiopia will try to break the deadline set for it by the Somali gov. They have now reportedly brought many more troops into Somalia.

The FGS may be discredited internationally if Ethiopia does not repudiate the MOU and stays in Somalia past the 31 Dec deadline. If that happens, Somalia will either have to move militarily against Ethiopia, or do nothing. It will almost certainly do nothing, making it look even more feckless.

Hasan Sheekh is sending soldiers to Raas Kaambooni but is doing absolutely nothing to get Ethiopia's troops to leave if they have refused to repudiate the MOU. He is prioritizing his reelection over the protection of the country's sovereignty.

Things don't look good.

HSM diff has alternative options, he could motion sanctions be placed on Ethiopia which has broken international law, if it comes to that. But I doubt it’ll come to that as the man is too spineless to take action. So many opportunities to cripple the Ethiopian regime, via international sanctions and he hasn’t taken any action so far, doubt it’ll change.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

It is looking like Ethiopia will try to break the deadline set for it by the Somali gov. They have now reportedly brought many more troops into Somalia.

The FGS may be discredited internationally if Ethiopia does not repudiate the MOU and stays in Somalia past the 31 Dec deadline. If that happens, Somalia will either have to move militarily against Ethiopia, or do nothing. It will almost certainly do nothing, making it look even more feckless.

Hasan Sheekh is sending soldiers to Raas Kaambooni but is doing absolutely nothing to get Ethiopia's troops to leave if they have refused to repudiate the MOU. He is prioritizing his reelection over the protection of the country's sovereignty.

Things don't look good.

Somalia has to move against regions hosting the foreign troops and not under FGS control.

And ofcourse that is under process and it begins in the south and pushes north over time. It's a progressive process, state control will spread out from the centre. Jubbaland is an important part of the political aspect of this process. HSM needs to deal with all the enclaves in the south and then Puntland next.

Unless FGS has full control of it's territory, then Somalia's territorial integrity will never be respected by foreign actors. (And to be clear FMS that are only nominally allied to the FGS and swtich their alliegence with the seasons does not count).

Somaliland is the last problem to tackle if you are HSM, but you want him to focus on the MoU and not your enclaves which are logically and practically the first thing that needs to go.

 

[TheLand]

Somalia has to move against regions hosting the foreign troops and not under FGS control.

And ofcourse that is under process and it begins in the south and pushes north over time. It's a progressive process, state control will spread out from the centre. Jubbaland is an important part of the political aspect of this process. HSM needs to deal with all the enclaves in the south and then Puntland next.

Unless FGS has full control of it's territory, then Somalia's territorial integrity will never be respected by foreign actors. (And to be clear FMS that are only nominally allied to the FGS and swtich their alliegence with the seasons does not count).

Somaliland is the last problem to tackle if you are HSM, but you want him to focus on the MoU and not your enclaves which are logically and practically the first thing that needs to go.

You need to worry about what HY will do to your community and stop the daily mudaharaad you do in here. Stop running from your problems.

 

[Cumar Cowl]

Somalia has to move against regions hosting the foreign troops and not under FGS control.

And ofcourse that is under process and it begins in the south and pushes north over time. It's a progressive process, state control will spread out from the centre. Jubbaland is an important part of the political aspect of this process. HSM needs to deal with all the enclaves in the south and then Puntland next.

Unless FGS has full control of it's territory, then Somalia's territorial integrity will never be respected by foreign actors. (And to be clear FMS that are only nominally allied to the FGS and swtich their alliegence with the seasons does not count).

Somaliland is the last problem to tackle if you are HSM, but you want him to focus on the MoU and not your enclaves which are logically and practically the first thing that needs to go.

Every Isaaq sub is creating their own Militia, I just watched Habar Awal militia crying looool

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