Somalia Having A Nation Is Unlikely

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It is a popular belief that science and religion do not work together, in fact most of the time, science is believed to work to disprove religion. The contrast is often times based on the argument that science involves facts and evidence, while religion involves only beliefs and emotions. The negative connotation is thus placed on the religious ideology due to the lack of rational evidence supporting religions in contrast to scientific evidence.

As I have said before as long as Islam isn't used as a political ideology we can make them work together for an example the Islamic Golden Age:
The Islamic Golden Age (622 - 1258) represents a time in history when the power of Islam allowed a flourishing of intellectual development. The Islamic empires were based on trade, as opposed to Christian society's focus on agrarian landlords. This, combined with the dominance of Arabic-African and Arabic-Asian trade routes, allowed the Muslim people to be exposed to a wide range of ideas and scholars, and allowed for the foundations of intellectual growth.

I am also concerned that Islam is turning into a political ideology instead of a Religion which explains the no science issue.

Algebra is invented.(c. 830)

Muhammad bin Musa al-Kwarizmi publishes The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing, which forms the basis for algebra. This revolutionizes mathematics, which has previously been based solely on geometry, and opens many new ways of thinking in the field.


Islam is not the issue but rather the followers in this day and age, In today’s society the idea of religion and science going hand in hand is not easy to see. Younger generations, especially, have a negative perception of religion through the media. Media, like tv shows and movies generally portray religion as several extremely conservative ideas that may not make sense and that serve the purpose of comedy. In contrast, science is usually portrayed as a means of progress and ideas for the future.


Though religions and science may not support each other directly, the two of them can coexist. There is a harmonious space between the faith and facts where scientific evidence may explain something that the Bible does not, and where the Bible has explanations for things that no science has been able to explain. The popular notion that science works to disprove religion would be impossible. It is easier to disprove a miracle than to disprove the entire faith. This is because even if a miracle is proved to be otherwise, since it does not add anything to the faith and people aren’t required to believe in them, faith remains stable. Miracles are all about perspective, just like how even the most religious of people cannot ever be certain of their religion, yet they choose to believe. All in all, even though is science can disprove miracles and small religious claims, the disapproval of such actually works with the catholic faith as a whole to improve individual’s faith and its impact on others.
 

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@DR OSMAN
It is a popular belief that science and religion do not work together, in fact most of the time, science is believed to work to disprove religion. The contrast is often times based on the argument that science involves facts and evidence, while religion involves only beliefs and emotions. The negative connotation is thus placed on the religious ideology due to the lack of rational evidence supporting religions in contrast to scientific evidence.

As I have said before as long as Islam isn't used as a political ideology we can make them work together for an example the Islamic Golden Age:
The Islamic Golden Age (622 - 1258) represents a time in history when the power of Islam allowed a flourishing of intellectual development. The Islamic empires were based on trade, as opposed to Christian society's focus on agrarian landlords. This, combined with the dominance of Arabic-African and Arabic-Asian trade routes, allowed the Muslim people to be exposed to a wide range of ideas and scholars, and allowed for the foundations of intellectual growth.

I am also concerned that Islam is turning into a political ideology instead of a Religion which explains the no science issue.

Algebra is invented.(c. 830)

Muhammad bin Musa al-Kwarizmi publishes The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing, which forms the basis for algebra. This revolutionizes mathematics, which has previously been based solely on geometry, and opens many new ways of thinking in the field.


Islam is not the issue but rather the followers in this day and age, In today’s society the idea of religion and science going hand in hand is not easy to see. Younger generations, especially, have a negative perception of religion through the media. Media, like tv shows and movies generally portray religion as several extremely conservative ideas that may not make sense and that serve the purpose of comedy. In contrast, science is usually portrayed as a means of progress and ideas for the future.


Though religions and science may not support each other directly, the two of them can coexist. There is a harmonious space between the faith and facts where scientific evidence may explain something that the Bible does not, and where the Bible has explanations for things that no science has been able to explain. The popular notion that science works to disprove religion would be impossible. It is easier to disprove a miracle than to disprove the entire faith. This is because even if a miracle is proved to be otherwise, since it does not add anything to the faith and people aren’t required to believe in them, faith remains stable. Miracles are all about perspective, just like how even the most religious of people cannot ever be certain of their religion, yet they choose to believe. All in all, even though is science can disprove miracles and small religious claims, the disapproval of such actually works with the catholic faith as a whole to improve individual’s faith and its impact on others.

You know what bro, do u want unity in Somalia. It can only happen thru scientific inquiry system, me and u get along 'automatically' see. Cause we know it's real. If we don't adopt it, we will not get along as we go back down to belief, emotions, 8 billion opinions in the world and chaos. If u want Somali unity you must and I reiterate do it thru a system that is respected and cherished by all as 'cilm' even if the 'cilm' is against them, they will still love you cause it's science, it tells them how to 'fix' something that was 'broken' in their theory. The thousands of theories sitting un-tested in academic journals due to lack of equipment or technology or some 'restraint' is 'millions'. See how strict the system is, even if your idea is beautiful, peer reviewed for contributions, they still don't turn into a 'solid fact' untill we can PROVE IT. Why u think the issue of 'time' is still all 'theories' but they are sold on the einstein version of it but it can be debunked anytime, it's open for the whole world.

Tribe is my identity and history, but science is how 'cooperate' with others, it's mutual system that I respect and they respect. So all our society needs to adopt this mutually accepted system.
 

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@Sharmake shark the world is stunned with us as we keep asking them for solutions, even animals don't do such thing about survival. We should know how to survive and cooperate, this is embarassing saying to the world I can't do what even charles darwin said all animals achieve. Would u beg your neighbor saying you dont know how to 'eat' lol. They will be shocked with u
 
@DR OSMAN
How are we supposed to propose our ideas to our corrupt government.
They are collecting pay-checks and will continue to do so and now with the oil-extraction in schedule we can expect that those who sit in the government snatch all the money and leave us with no oil and no money.

This is where I am lost, I have so many ideas and theories on how to improve our country but I am being hindered by all the explosions and killings of university students etc.
 

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DROSMAN May Allah keep Puntland in a perpetual state of anarchy and poverty till we return to Allah :rejoice:

Theres no grey area you are either a muslim or a gaal there’s no inbetween and the enmity between us May it grow amiin thuma amiin until one of us is totally eradicated from the face of this earth, theres no such thing as demons and angels living together in peace.
 

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@Sharmake shark the world is stunned with us as we keep asking them for solutions, even animals don't do such thing about survival. We should know how to survive and cooperate, this is embarassing saying to the world I can't do what even charles darwin said all animals achieve. Would u beg your neighbor saying you dont know how to 'eat' lol. They will be shocked with u
The guy said that he is a muslim what are you talking about he is not a gaal stop begging it boowe you are the only somali gaal on this earth and Ayan hersi the biggest harlot that use to work in Amsterdam redlight district as a prostitute
 

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Islam should never be used politically and only by religion in my opinion.
We can take a look at the Islamic Caliphate as an remark that this is not reasonable.

Here are a few pros and cons regarding the Islamic Republic:

Pros:

-Opposed to products of Western liberalism, i.e. Feminism, LGBTQ propaganda, cultural Marxism.

-Maintenance of a strong military, and loyal army

-Good economy when taking Western sanctions into account

-Direct opposition to Zionist supremacism in the Middle East -promote a sense of cultural values

Cons:

-lack of women's rights, but better than Western feminism and Wahhabi/Sunni repression

-Persecution and suppression of political opposition figures

-Enforcement of Sharia laws

-persecution of religious minorities in some cases, i.e. Bahai and apostates

-flawed democratic system

-suppression of Nationalist parties, i.e. SUMKA
If you don’t believe legislation is only for Allah then you are a gaal like DR OSMAN
 

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Judgment and Legislation belongs to Allah alone

This is the absolute conviction that Allah is One in His Judgment (Hukm) and His Legislation (Tashri). Meaning, only He is the Ruling Judge and only He has the right to declare what is lawful and unlawful regarding beliefs, sayings and actions, in addition to setting up a system of punishment to punish those who do not abide by His Laws. So just as He, the Most High, has no partner in his Dominion and in controlling the affairs of the creation, likewise, He has no partner in the judgment (Hukm) and legislation (Tashri). There are too many verses from the Quran and the Sunnah to emphasize this point. However, the following would suffice:


إِنِ الْحُكْمُ إِلَّا لِلَّهِ ۚ أَمَرَ أَلَّا تَعْبُدُوا إِلَّا إِيَّاهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ


“The Hukm (Legislating, Commands, Judgment) is for none but Allah. He has commanded that you worship none but Him, that is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not.” [Qur’an Chapter 12: 40]

Imam al-Baghawi (died 509AH) commented on Quran Chapter 12: 40 in Tafsir ul-Baghawi, Vol2, Pg. 427, saying, “Indeed the (Right of) ruling, commanding and prohibiting is for none but Allah”

In another verse, Allah says,

مَا لَهُم مِّن دُونِهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا يُشْرِكُ فِي حُكْمِهِ أَحَدًا


“…and He makes none to share in His Judgment and His Rule.” [Quran, Surah, 18:26]

Imam at-Tabari (died 311AH) explained this verse in Tafsir ut-Tabari, Vol 8, Page 212, saying, “Allāh will never let His creation be a partner in His ruling and judgment. He is indeed the only One Who rules (legislates) and judges, and He manages them (the creations) in whatever way He wills” The following verses show the Shirk of worshiping others besides Allāh in His Judgment and Legislation and there is absolutely no difference between the one who prostrate to idols and the one who commit Shirk with Allāh in His Judgment and Legislation. Both are Mushriks (polytheists).



أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ


“Or have they partners with Allah (false gods), who have permitted for them a Deen (law, way of life or religion) which Allah has not allowed.” [Quran, Surah 42: 21]



أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ آمَنُوا بِمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ مِن قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَتَحَاكَمُوا إِلَى الطَّاغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوا أَن يَكْفُرُوا بِهِ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلَالًا بَعِيدًا

“Have you seen those (hypocrites) who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you, and that which was sent down before you, and they wish to go for judgment (in their disputes) to the Taghut while they have been ordered to reject them. But Shaytan (Satan) wishes to lead them far astray.” [Quran, Surah 4: 60]



وَلَا تَأْكُلُوا مِمَّا لَمْ يُذْكَرِ اسْمُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْهِ وَإِنَّهُ لَفِسْقٌ ۗ وَإِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ لَيُوحُونَ إِلَىٰ أَوْلِيَائِهِمْ لِيُجَادِلُوكُمْ ۖ وَإِنْ أَطَعْتُمُوهُمْ إِنَّكُمْ لَمُشْرِكُونَ


“Eat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allāh’s Name has not been pronounced (at the time of the slaughtering of the animal), for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience of Allāh). And certainly, the Shayātin (devils) do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them [by making a dead animal permissible by eating it, then you would indeed be Mushrikun (polytheists)].” [Quran, Surah 6: 121]



اتَّخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَمَا أُمِرُوا إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوا إِلَٰهًا وَاحِدًا ۖ لَّا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ سُبْحَانَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ


“They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah” [Quran Chapter 9: 31]
 
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