Somalia federal state requirement (2 regions or 1.5 regions)?

[Bohol]

I'm not. Plus you said dir are trying to block hawiye and darod pursuit of the south.

Not to mention Gadsan are close to us.

Well it is true. The only reason Kenya/ Axmed Madoobe forces can't expand to Jamaame district &
Middle Jubba is because of Al shabab.

 

[Agent 47]

Kkkk... don’t forget that they conquered and ruled you for 100 years. The entire state was based in habar gidir lands.

Oh yeah we were ruled by sultan kadidiid
boy, the nigga ruled few huts in hobyo, f*ck wrong with you man
kulaha he ruled all of HG lands
he was chased out by sacad hg commander farax jeex and ever since sacad hg had that place under their control.

 

[John Michael]

Well it is true. The only reason Kenya/ Axmed Madoobe forces can't expand to Jamaame district &
Middle Jubba is because of Al shabab.

I sadly agree.

Jamaame is shabab hq and biimal are at the forefront of al Shabab. Meanwhile they have to travel to xamar or kismaayo to get basic medical services.

 

[Bohol]

News flash Somalis had a brutal and long civil war. I never heard of this kulaha.

It is true Leelkase are not fond of Hawiye however there is no active fighting between them like MJ where we hear every week there
is fighting in eastern Mudug. The Puntland and Galmudug tensions is mainly centered around MJ & HG. Other clans such as Leelkase, Marehan, Dir of Mudug etc are bystanders.

 

[Agent 47]

Interesting me and you could be related.


Xasan Xaad is Murusude who is also half Leelkase.

no wonder he is a sellout
his son was giving a job in the port and this man kept his mouth shut ever since and him being one of the speakers for beesha hawiye.

 

[Bohol]

I sadly agree.

Jamaame is shabab hq and biimal are at the forefront of al Shabab. Meanwhile they have to travel to xamar or kismaayo to get basic medical services.

Do you think we will be welcomed if we go there as a T1a couple? you can say hi to your inader while I talk to wiilka aan abtiga uu ahay.

 

[John Michael]

Do you think we will be welcomed if we go there as a T1a couple? you can say hi to your inader while I talk to wiilka aan abtiga uu ahay.

Couple kulaha. I'm taken.

And yes there are plenty of isaaqs in the south especially shabeleda Hoose. You would be surprised.

 

[Starscream]

Living in many regions has its benefit though that is why Galmudug bypassed the 2 or more
regions requirement and settled with 1.5 regions. Now if a community only lives in 1 region
it is not possible to become a federal state.

Dhulos live in 3 regions second of the combined 10 Galgaduud and mudug
Districts hg exclusively lives on 4 districts
2 is other hawiye
1 is mixed of all groups
And the last 3 is mx,mj,lel kase
Now lets look
At
Sool & sanaag plus for argument add buhoodle
Of the 9 districts including buhoodle dhulos close to exclusively live in 4 warsengeli 2 and both isaaq 2 while the last district is mixed of all groups
Basically east sanaag plus sool is no different than south mudug plus Galgaduud
Your trying to hard to make valid reason when there's none the only difference between the 2 is the cancerous trash called mj
Let's look at the present day
Galmudug the none hg hawiye districts are playground for alshabab of the current hg district duusamereb the only region capital is held by ayr group who are against Galmudug
3 districts and a half
Back in 2012 Khatumo was 3 districts and half even then large portion of east south las anod district was held by them
What makes your argument bs is shiek sharrif recognized them and less then 48 hours later he backtracked did 180

 

[Bohol]

no wonder he is a sellout
his son was giving a job in the port and this man kept his mouth shut ever since and him being one of the speakers for beesha hawiye.

Maxamed Xasan Xaad and Maxamed Diriiye are considered the spiritual leaders of beeshiina.

 

[Abdalla]

under house arrest
maybe I should remind you villa baydhabo, AY couldn't get anywhere near xamar and he hid in baydhabo where he later got the Ethiopians to invade xamar with thousands of soldiers. lmao at him getting abdiqasim under house arrest the most BS I have ever heard.

like hell, he had the power, the Ethiopians were begging all of Hawiye to tell Cayr to lay down their weapons but everyone got karbashed even our own brothers were against us, fucking calala uus got karbashed with their ethiopian masters.

Not only was he put on house arrest, They also raided his house.

http://www.bbc.com/somali/news/story/2008/05/080523_abdiqasim.shtml
Cabdiqaasim Salaad xasan ayaa sheegay in uu ogyahay ragga hubeysan ee gurigiisa soo galay iyo dadka soo dirayba, isagoo ku eedeeyay Madaxweynaha KMG ah ee Somalia Cabdullaahi Yusuf

 

[Bohol]

Couple kulaha. I'm taken.

And yes there are plenty of isaaqs in the south especially shabeleda Hoose. You would be surprised.

Yh I know even some of my relatives own farms in Lower Shabelle.

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[Bohol]

Dhulos live in 3 regions second of the combined 10 Galgaduud and mudug
Districts hg exclusively lives on 4 districts
2 is other hawiye
1 is mixed of all groups
And the last 3 is mx,mj,lel kase
Now lets look
At
Sool & sanaag plus for argument add buhoodle
Of the 9 districts including buhoodle dhulos close to exclusively live in 4 warsengeli 2 and both isaaq 2 while the last district is mixed of all groups
Basically east sanaag plus sool is no different than south mudug plus Galgaduud
Your trying to hard to make valid reason when there's none the only difference between the 2 is the cancerous trash called mj
Let's look at the present day
Galmudug the none hg hawiye districts are playground for alshabab of the current hg district duusamereb the only region capital is held by ayr group who are against Galmudug
3 districts and a half
Back in 2012 Khatumo was 3 districts and half even then large portion of east south las anod district was held by them
What makes your argument bs is shiek sharrif recognized them and less then 48 hours later he backtracked did 180

Sool + eastern Sanaag can work it can be your own Galmudug but you will have to get the
Warsangeli on-board (who happen to be Bah Majerteen and extremely pro Puntland).

 

[Abdalla]

It is true Leelkase are not fond of Hawiye however there is no active fighting between them like MJ where we hear every week there
is fighting in eastern Mudug. The Puntland and Galmudug tensions is mainly centered around MJ & HG. Other clans such as Leelkase, Marehan, Dir of Mudug etc are bystanders.

They fought each other in 2016. The last big war between PL and Galmudug was happening in from their border in Garsoor and western outskirts of Galkayo.

 

[Bohol]

They fought each other in 2016. The last big war between PL and Galmudug was happening in from their border in Garsoor and west of Galkayo.

Yh that is because Galmudug tried to build a police station in land the LL saw as part of Garsoor (west Galkacyo). The building was stopped and peace was restored.



Heshiiska Galmudug iyo Beesha Leelkase ee Xiisada Galbeedka Gaalkacyo oo Guul laga Gaaray iyo Qalabkii oo laga qaaday meesha"

Maamulka Galmudug ayaa Ciidanka iyo Qalabkii Dhismaha ka Qaaday Galbeedka Gaalkacyo si Nabada Gobolka Mudug ee Labada Dhinac loo ilaaliyo.

Xiisada Galbeedka Gaalkacyo ka Taagneyd ayaa ka Dhalatay Dhul Galmudug ay Dooneysay in Saldhig Ciidan ka Dhisto Hase Yeeshee Dad Shacab ah oo kasoo Jeeda Xaafada Garsoor ayaa Arintaasi kasoo Horjeestay iyadoo Taasi keentay Xiisad Gooni ah Hase Yeeshee Kulamo Dhacay kadib Waxaa laga Gaaray Xal Dhab ah,


http://mudug24.com/2016/09/04/heshi...aalkacyo-oo-guul-laga-gaaray-iyo-qalabkii-oo/

 

[Agent 47]

Not only was he put on house arrest, They also raided his house.

http://www.bbc.com/somali/news/story/2008/05/080523_abdiqasim.shtml
Cabdiqaasim Salaad xasan ayaa sheegay in uu ogyahay ragga hubeysan ee gurigiisa soo galay iyo dadka soo dirayba, isagoo ku eedeeyay Madaxweynaha KMG ah ee Somalia Cabdullaahi Yusuf

Ciidamada Ethiopia ee ku sugan magaalada Muqdisho, ayaa wararka na soo gaaraya ay sheegayaan in ay galeen oo ay baareen guriga Madaxwaynihii hore ee Soomaaliya Cabdiqaasim Salaad Xassan.

wallahi you guys have no shame
balfiirsha how he claims the doings of the xabashis
why didn't he send his soldiers there instead of his ethiopian masters?
kulaha house arrest
a house raid done by the xabashis but No house arrests or anything done to mudane abdiqaasim and nor was he sla[[ed like a like Gabre did to abdulahi yusuf

Gabre oo dharbaaxeeyay Madaxweyne Cabdilaahi Yuusuf, kadib markii uu maqlay in dacwad ka dhan ah u gudbiyay Meles

Wararka aanu ka heleyno qaar kamid ah Mas'uuliyiinta gobalka Banaadir ayaa xaqiijiyeen inuu khilaaf weyn soo kala dhex galay Madaxweynaha DF Cabdilaahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Gen. Gabre oo ah Jeneraalka ugu darajada weyn saraakiisha Ethiopian-ka ee Somalia joogta.

Khilaafkaan ayaa la xaqiijiyay inuu yimid kadib markii Gen. Gabre uu maqlay in dacwad ka dhan ah loo gudbiyay Ra'iisul-wasaare Meles Zenawi.

Gen. Gabre ayaa sida la xaqiijiyay shalay galab soo gaaray xarunta Madaxtooyada Villa Somalia, halkaasoo uu kula kulmay Madaxweyne Cabdilaahi Yuusuf Axmed.

"Gabre waxuu soo galay howl-ka lagu shiro ee Madaxtooyada, waxuuna soo ag istaagay Madaxweyne Cabdilaahi Yuusuf, laba eray ayay is dhaafsadeen kadib waxaan ka war helnay Gabre oo laba dharbaaxo oo deg deg ah ku dhuftay Madaxweyne Cabdilaahi Yuusuf, taasoo sababtay in Madaxweynaha uu dhulka ku dhaco, isla markaana madaxa darbi uu ku dhufto" ayuu yiir mas'uulkaasi gobalka Banaadir ka tirsan.

Madaxweynaha DF ayaa la sheegay in markii la dharbaaxeeyay uu ku qeyliyay erayo ay kamid ahaayeen "raali noqo gabre ,,,,, qalad baa wax laguu fahamsiiyay ,,, ".iyo erayo kale.

Khilaafkaan ayaa yimid kadib markii Madaxweyne Yuusuf oo dhawaan gaaray magaalada Addis Ababa uu hordhigay Ra'iisul-wasaare Meles codsi ku aadan in Somalia laga badalo Gen. Gabre uu ku eedeyay inuusan amar ka qaadan Dowlada KMG ah.

Madaxweynaha ayaa Gabre ku eedeeyay inuu marar badan isku dayay inuu shirqool ku dilo, isla markaana madaafiic ku garaaco xarumaha Dowlada gaar ahaan Madaxtooyada iyo Garoonka Muqdisho xiliyada ay madaxda ka duulayaa.

Raggga sida gaarka ah Gen. Gabre la saaxiibka ah uuna ka dhaxeeya isbaheysi xooggan ayaa wxaa ka mid ah Darwiish, Maxamed Dheere, Xaabsade iyo xubno kale oo ka tirsan Golaha wasiirada iyo qaybaha kale ee dawlada.

Madaxweyne Yuusuf ayaa si aad ah u diidan ciidamada ay sida gaarka ah u leeyhiin Darwiish iyo Maxamed Dheere oo fuliya danaha ka soo horjeeda isaga, inkastoo uu doonayey inay isaga ka amar qaatan dhamaan ciidamada dawlada sida uu doonana u adeegsado si ay awooda dawlada oo dhan gacanta ugu soo gasho balse arintaasi aanay dhicin, waqti badan oo xilkii uu hayeyna laga lumiyey in kastoo uu haatan dadaal ugu jiro sidii uu ku hanan lahaa awooda Dawlada oo dhan

Gen. Gabre ayaa lasoo warinayaa inuu isagoo xarakeynaya uu ka baxay xarunta Madaxtooyada Villa Somalia, isla markaana uu ku goodiyay inuu dili doono Madaxweyne Yuusuf.

Madaxweynaha ayaa u qeyla dhaamiyay Ciidamada AMISOM iyadoo guud ahaan ammaankiisa la wareegeen ciidamada AMISOM gaar ahaan kuwa Uganda ee Muqdisho jooga.

Xaalada Madaxtooyada ee uu degan yahay Cabdilaahi Yuusuf ayaa maanta kacsan iyadoo laga cabsi qabo dagaal halkaasi ku dhex mara ciidamada DF iyokuwa Uganda oo dhinac ah iyo Ciidamada Ethiopian-ka.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Gen. Gabre ayaa sidii uu doono ula macaamila Madaxda sarre ee Dowlada KMG ah isagoo is mooda inuu ka daraja sareeyo dhamaan madaxda DF.

 

[Starscream]

Sool + eastern Sanaag can work it can be your own Galmudug but you will have to get the
Warsangeli on-board (who happen to be Bah Majerteen and extremely pro Puntland).

The puntland militia in east sanaag aka af urur are not mj but dhulos are they gonna ask for alshabab to help them
If they think mj will fight for them there in for rude awakening

 

[Bohol]

The puntland militia in east sanaag aka af urur are not mj but dhulos are they gonna ask for alshabab to help them
If they think mj will fight for them there in for rude awakening

The majority of the casualties in Af-Urur were actually Warsangeli however those that fought in Suuj and other Nugaal areas during
the brief Al shabab invasion were Dhulos.

 

[Starscream]

The majority of the casualties in Af-Urur were actually Warsangeli however those that fought in Suuj and other Nugaal areas during
the brief Al shabab invasion were Dhulos.

Dhimashada Tirada Ciidanka Daraawiishta Ee Af Urur ku dhintay.

Tiinle 40-Askari Oo Dhimasho, Beesha Tiinle ee degan deegaanka Af-Urur ayay macaa dumarkii ka dileen

Maadama Af-Urur ay Fadhi u ahayd Deegaanka Tiinlaha

Cismaan Maxamuud 9\

Warsangali 11

Dishiishe 7

Cali Saleebaan 2

Ciise Maxamuud 10

Dhulbahante 20

Leelkase 3

Cumar Maxamuud 2

Gahayle Siwaakhroon 3

Kaskiqabe 7

Madhibaan 5

Awartable 2

Ugaarsaleebaan 3

Idigfacle 1

Saraakiisha dhimatay waa 7-Korneel.

20-Askari lama hayo.

 

[Agent 47]

Dhulos live in 3 regions second of the combined 10 Galgaduud and mudug
Districts hg exclusively lives on 4 districts
2 is other hawiye
1 is mixed of all groups
And the last 3 is mx,mj,lel kase
Now lets look
At
Sool & sanaag plus for argument add buhoodle
Of the 9 districts including buhoodle dhulos close to exclusively live in 4 warsengeli 2 and both isaaq 2 while the last district is mixed of all groups
Basically east sanaag plus sool is no different than south mudug plus Galgaduud
Your trying to hard to make valid reason when there's none the only difference between the 2 is the cancerous trash called mj
Let's look at the present day
Galmudug the none hg hawiye districts are playground for alshabab of the current hg district duusamereb the only region capital is held by ayr group who are against Galmudug
3 districts and a half
Back in 2012 Khatumo was 3 districts and half even then large portion of east south las anod district was held by them
What makes your argument bs is shiek sharrif recognized them and less then 48 hours later he backtracked did 180

what are you talking about? the only kulaha, where is guriceel district which has over 100+ tuloos under the district?
The 2 private HG ceyr districts in galgaduud are dhusamareb and Guriceel.

 

[Agent 47]

Dhulos live in 3 regions second of the combined 10 Galgaduud and mudug
Districts hg exclusively lives on 4 districts
2 is other hawiye
1 is mixed of all groups
And the last 3 is mx,mj,lel kase
Now lets look
At
Sool & sanaag plus for argument add buhoodle
Of the 9 districts including buhoodle dhulos close to exclusively live in 4 warsengeli 2 and both isaaq 2 while the last district is mixed of all groups
Basically east sanaag plus sool is no different than south mudug plus Galgaduud
Your trying to hard to make valid reason when there's none the only difference between the 2 is the cancerous trash called mj
Let's look at the present day
Galmudug the none hg hawiye districts are playground for alshabab of the current hg district duusamereb the only region capital is held by ayr group who are against Galmudug
3 districts and a half
Back in 2012 Khatumo was 3 districts and half even then large portion of east south las anod district was held by them
What makes your argument bs is shiek sharrif recognized them and less then 48 hours later he backtracked did 180

Dhulos could build a state but the two major neighboring clans are stopping that from happening.