Somalia capital will be moved into a place near Ethiopia after ATMIS leaves

[The Midlands]

I suggest Galdogob

who knows could be bakool too around mustaxiil its up to Ethiopia

 

[Gaandheri]

They have no money, enough army so they want to use front line states(Ethiopia, Kenya, and Djibouti) in phase two in KG, western Hiiraan and JL Meantime, Atmis will be evacauating Some bases in Hiiraan, the two shabelle, lower juba, Gedo by September maybe Halgan 60km south of Baladweyne and Mahaday

Then the rest of Amisom will leave gradually till the end of 2024

Your fate will be in the hands of Ethiopia and Kenya if the SFG reaches out to egypt Ethiopia will evacuate but before that we wll see Al Shabaab replacing amisom in phase one regions

Phase 2 won’t happen in JL but in KGS it will, cali balcad said there training 20k troops so that should be enough.

 

[Gaandheri]

who knows could be bakool too its up to Ethiopia.

I would say dolow back in 2007 Ethiopians suggested it to AY before Baidoa and Jowhar.

 

[The Midlands]

I would say dolow back in 2007 Ethiopians suggested it to AY before Baidoa and Jowhar.

maybe. Kenya was suggesting Balad xaawo CY wanted hawiyeland

Bakool sare to make us DDS

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

I suggest Galdogob

That seems like a good idea tbh if the garacad-galdogob gets built that area will be booming

 

[bidenkulaha]

Phase 2 won’t happen in JL but in KGS it will, cali balcad said there training 20k troops so that should be enough.

Makes sense to start from West Hiraan and into KG. Rather than start from KG. There’s no specific front in KG as the cities are under seige. You’d need to airdrop troops and somehow have enough for 5-6 simultaneous fronts.

Gaaljecel will be able to mobilise their own macawiisley too.

 

[Fobnimo Till I Dhimo]

AS is not extracting any oil any time soon even if they capture the whole country . If you mean resource rich as in agriculture that I can get behind but that don’t explain why states like GM are overrun with AS. Somaliland is atleast strategically important and has a massive port.

SL is out of reach for these niggas as survival in that area would be unlikely. Moreover they lack any backing. In contrast, in the south, they receive more support from their own qabiils. Additionally, attempting to navigate between two enemies on two fronts,SL and Pl, would be a poor tactical decision with unfavorable outcomes. However, in the south, they are more familiar with the terrain and have a long standing successful track record. Furthermore, they make hella lacag from trading coal with Kenya,these caqli cambulos are better off where they are. Considering that SL allegedly funds these niggas they have no intention of biting the hand that feeds them

 

[GaradShabeel]

SL is out of reach for these niggas as survival in that area would be unlikely. Moreover they lack any backing. In contrast, in the south, they receive more support from their own qabiils. Additionally, attempting to navigate between two enemies on two fronts,SL and Pl, would be a poor tactical decision with unfavorable outcomes. However, in the south, they are more familiar with the terrain and have a long standing successful track record. Furthermore, they make hella lacag from trading coal with Kenya,these caqli cambulos are better off where they are. Considering that SL allegedly funds these niggas they have no intention of biting the hand that feeds them

People tend to disregard or downplay the amount of support they get from certain qabiils, and not necessary the clans of AS fighters. This applies in particular to smaller and marginalized clans. They make some form of pact with AS, including the Ugaas of some clans, that they'll allow AS presence in exchange for supporting the clan. Mainly against clans they don't get along very well with; for instance due to land disputes against stronger clans etc.

Given how the gov't is incapable of performing its duties and absence of protecting its citizens with regards to their xuquuq, together with massive corruption and even being taken advantage from people at the top, they seek 'refuge' with AS as a desperate attempt. As bad as they are, they do provide some law and order in their land. The moment everyone publicly denounces AS, the sooner Somalia can be liberated, despite AS being supported from internal/external actors. Until then, this issue must be addressed as you can't ignore the elephant in the room.

As far as why SL and PL are free from AS, as other said, they exerted power in most of their territory before establishment of AS. But the clans living there also moved on from the civil war and made peace with each other in the 90s. That wasn't the case in South-Central Somalia, which AS exploited.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

That seems like a good idea tbh if the garacad-galdogob gets built that area will be booming

Being between Konfur and Waqooyi makes it a great option unless PL wants to concede Galkacyo.

 

[Fobnimo Till I Dhimo]

People tend to disregard or downplay the amount of support they get from certain qabiils, and not necessary the clans of AS fighters. This applies in particular to smaller and marginalized clans. They make some form of pact with AS, including the Ugaas of some clans, that they'll allow AS presence in exchange for supporting the clan. Mainly against clans they don't get along very well with; for instance due to land disputes against stronger clans etc.

Given how the gov't is incapable of performing its duties and absence of protecting its citizens with regards to their xuquuq, together with massive corruption and even being taken advantage from people at the top, they seek 'refuge' with AS as a desperate attempt. As bad as they are, they do provide some law and order in their land. The moment everyone publicly denounces AS, the sooner Somalia can be liberated, despite AS being supported from internal/external actors. Until then, this issue must be addressed as you can't ignore the elephant in the room.

As far as why SL and PL are free from AS, as other said, they exerted power in most of their territory before establishment of AS. But the clans living there also moved on from the civil war and made peace with each other in the 90s. That wasn't the case in South-Central Somalia, which AS exploited.

Man in a country like Somalia where there's too much cadaalad darro iyo dulmi macquul ma noqonayso in laga soo wada horjeesto AS. These niggas easily gain the loyalty of qabiilada dulmanqabiil ka lagu sheegayo wa sun rasmi ah certain qabils dat feel oppressed will always use AS against their enemies only way they can ka aarso their foes ileen waa masakiin oo tabar lahayn.Somalia just needs a strong no nonsense leader that will completely destroy these niggas bila naxariiswhen one is caught hala dilo ''wa qabiil hebel ugaas hebel baa sheekada dhameenayo yaanan la dilin'' waa in laga baxa sheekadaas qof walbo oo AS isku sheego qabiil walbo ha ahaado wa in dil lagu xukuma.ticket akhiro u diraayo wa si degdeg ah u geenaayo waa in loo jaraa

 

[Burqad]

If anything ATMIS leaving will strengthen and legitimize the Somali government, having your two historical enemy nations inside your country is a stupid idea.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Can someone break down to me what Puntland and Somaliland are doing to keep AS out with zero atmis? Why is that hard to emulate this elsewhere in the country? This is a real question btw

Shabaab didn't fall from the sky. They are people and clans from the degaans. Till people admit that, the problem won't be solved.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Man in a country like Somalia where there's too much cadaalad darro iyo dulmi macquul ma noqonayso in laga soo wada horjeesto AS. These niggas easily gain the loyalty of qabiilada dulmanqabiil ka lagu sheegayo wa sun rasmi ah certain qabils dat feel oppressed will always use AS against their enemies only way they can ka aarso their foes ileen waa masakiin oo tabar lahayn.Somalia just needs a strong no nonsense leader that will completely destroy these niggas bila naxariiswhen one is caught hala dilo ''wa qabiil hebel ugaas hebel baa sheekada dhameenayo yaanan la dilin'' waa in laga baxa sheekadaas qof walbo oo AS isku sheego qabiil walbo ha ahaado wa in dil lagu xukuma.ticket akhiro u diraayo wa si degdeg ah u geenaayo waa in loo jaraa

I've never really understood how one can advocate for the release a killer, just on the basis of the clan you share. At the same time, I can't blame them either. If others aren't receiving their rightful punishment when they engage in dembi sharci/diineed, why should my clansmen? Laakin with regards to AS, I'd be the first to snitch on people kkk. Shekada toolnimo iyo qaraabonimo iga fogee, nacalaa kugu tal if I happen to know one. Thank god, that has never been the case

Mida kale, ha is wareerin haddii aad sugayso hogaamiye awood badan kkk. Federalism have put an end to those aspirations. Madaxda maamul goboleedyada will have more power than Villa Soomaaliya. FMS leaders need to take charge of their internal amni of the states, and leave external enemies to dowladda dhexe iyo ciidanka qaranka.

As far as winning over AS and decimating them, once you've killed all of their fighters, what do you do with their sympathisers? Unless you win the ideological war, the territorial gain won't mean much in the long run. With that said, they probably have informants in the gov't now as we speak. Even civilians too. Who knows if the next person you meet on the streets may be a secret AS supporter? After all, they know how to hide themselves

 

[Coolpirate69]

To be blunt, Al Shabaab's ambitions go beyond Somalia...always have and until this AQ link is decapitated then it's a joke to think they'll simply occupy Mogadishu and be done there.

 

[GaradShabeel]

To be blunt, Al Shabaab's ambitions go beyond Somalia...always have and until this AQ link is decapitated then it's a joke to think they'll simply occupy Mogadishu and be done there.

Wallahi, they don't realize that their capabilities doesn't align with their hungurinimo Given how mighty they think of themselves and their aspirations, lol. I remember when they tried to push and make incursion into DDS last year, but where karbaashed like the worthless ragtag ciilan they are kkk. So many of them were reduced to bakhtis

AS are nothing more than AQ stooges. They've hopes to capture Somalia, Somaliweyne, east Africa, southern Africa and the list goes on until total power of the world. Delusions of grandeur

 

[Libaax-Joore]

When you want to keep a nation on its knees you attack it’s heart which is Benaadir and the entire south central region of Somalia. Likewise if I wanted to attack Russia I would attack Moscow and St Petersburg in the west instead of Siberia. I would attack New York and LA to keep the US on its knees instead of Alabama.

Did you compare the slum banadir to New York,los Angeles and moscow

Prince of HS neighborhood in Mogadishu

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[GaradShabeel]

Did you compare the slum banadir to New York,los Angeles and moscow

Prince of HS neighborhood in Mogadishu

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Wasn't Moscow close to falling to a jabhad recently? kkk

I think it's safe to put Xamar and Moscow in the same category

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Man in a country like Somalia where there's too much cadaalad darro iyo dulmi macquul ma noqonayso in laga soo wada horjeesto AS. These niggas easily gain the loyalty of qabiilada dulmanqabiil ka lagu sheegayo wa sun rasmi ah certain qabils dat feel oppressed will always use AS against their enemies only way they can ka aarso their foes ileen waa masakiin oo tabar lahayn.Somalia just needs a strong no nonsense leader that will completely destroy these niggas bila naxariiswhen one is caught hala dilo ''wa qabiil hebel ugaas hebel baa sheekada dhameenayo yaanan la dilin'' waa in laga baxa sheekadaas qof walbo oo AS isku sheego qabiil walbo ha ahaado wa in dil lagu xukuma.ticket akhiro u diraayo wa si degdeg ah u geenaayo waa in loo jaraa

Puntland is the only prosperous government horn of africa inshallah once atmis leave south somalia puntland will colonize anything south of somalia Will have new sultan Ali yusuf kenadid and rule with iron fist

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Wasn't Moscow close to falling to a jabhad recently? kkk

I think it's same to put Xamar and Moscow in the same category

My toilet is better than slum bombdisho

 

[GaradShabeel]

Puntland is the only prosperous government of horn of africa inshallah once atmis leave south somalia puntland will colonize anything south of somalia Will have new sultan Ali yusuf kenadid and rule with iron fist
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They're recovering from the last time PL tried to bring dowladnimo to koonfur. War ka joog