Mudug-Madman
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Somali women, SJW, BLM feminist says we were enslaved by Arabs
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Mudug-Madman
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Lmao, she has no concrete proof. Only inferences and conjecture like "well Arabs enslaved habaeshas, and they probably called Somalis Habaeshas, so that means they enslaved us as well."
With other groups there's literally mountains of evidence. Like detailed accounts describing where the slaves came from, when they came, their language etc. She has none of that.
Madara x
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She also says Somalis were raped and dominated in Bilad al Zanj aka Zanzibar aka Tanzania. Don't know how she managed to think that.
The Arab Slave traded reached us when we had our city states. First Zayla that was used to ship gold, frankincense etc aswell as slaves, then Mogadishu under the Ajuraan Empire. These trades never involved Somalis into slavery. We were viewed as Muslim brethren and we also would fight and die than be enslaved, noted by early Arab visitors like Ibn Battuta, AL idrisi, Ibn Hawqal etc.
Arab slave trade export zones
And who the other "Berber" slaves that were sold from Zayla could have been too.
Note Zayla was a part of Adal Sultanate. Mind blowing right? So we have that out of the way
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It was acknowledged that Somalis were NOT among slaves they sold or transported.
@merka enough for ya
So Somalis captured Nilotics and Oromos themselves, sold some kept some Oromos and allowed Arabs to sell and transport Bantu slaves
As I said I'm a great debater
I think you are proud of the things we did (i.e, captured & sold slaves).
And even if we did that, that is nothing to be proud of.
Somalis in diaspora are mad confused lmfao
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Post some books or links! Post the verifiable info. pls
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Berber meant all of Horn of Africa, and the Somali inhabited land today was mostly Oromo/other then. Our expansion came after Islam. View attachment 11773
Mentions of more Ethiopian and Nubian slaves.
Most slaves then were captures, and Somalis weren't capturing eachother but other Berbers/Cushites (interchangeable label) and having/selling them as slaves. We already know this is a practice that continued on with our expansion into Oromo land and the battles that were fought View attachment 11775View attachment 11776
Acknowledged by even the buyers of slaves from Somali city states that the slaves they bought were not Somali.
And another angle on the slaves from the Horn sold by the people of Zayla
I'm a great debater. Bring me anything to debunk and I'll do so
You do realize this book, Unraveling Somalia: Race, Class, and the Legacy of Slavery by Catherine Besteman is talking about the 1900s and the video posted is talking about around the 600s-1200s right?
Does anyone have any proof that says this is bull? The comments just say "these are lies" Please post some books that say otherwise, or something like that. The video is mostly talking about pre-Islam...where are our Somali sources/books that talk about ajnabis
So Xabiiba decided to join Sspot and defends her video.
I won't be here for long hun, I just want someone to post something valuable that says it's not true, all I see are insults and "that's not true" "she's lying!" where's the scholarly approach? Where's the academic approach? I know we all can read, so show me.
The Arab Slave Trade happened in East Africa starting during the 7th century. We know that.
Who were they using before they started using Bantus in the horn of Africa?
Xabiiba read this note it was crime to enslave/selling of the Somalis in Arab world.
Mudug-Madman
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@Caraweelo X show me one credible primary or secondary source that proves that Arabs enslaved Somalis.
I'll be waiting.
I'll be waiting.
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