Somali state new districts

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Hawiye in French Djibouti 1940s

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[Ugas.Wacays]

Hawiye and Karanle are buried in Kundudo east Hararghe. Where is Dir buried?

Haiwye is buried in Jowhar stop the hotep stories. Everbody came to Djibouti gabooye issaq oromo not a big deal

 

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Haiwye is buried in Jowhar stop the hotep stories. Everbody came to Djibouti gabooye issaq oromo not a big deal

Shut up you langaab. Hawiye Erer and his elder son are both buried in East Hararghe. Kundudo (Qubdhura) to be specific.

Now tell me where is Dir buried? Where is Madoobe Dir buried?

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Shut up you langaab. Hawiye Erer and his elder son are both buried in East Hararghe. Kundudo (Qubdhura) to be specific.

Now tell me where is Dir buried? Where is Madoobe Dir buried?

Were are the graves ? Or is this the same hotep story you peddle everyday. Haiwye are from Somalia, Dir are known to live in Hararghe and are native unlike......

 

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Were are the graves ? Or is this the same hotep story you peddle everyday. Haiwye are from Somalia, Dir are known to live in Hararghe and are native unlike......

Graves are here at Qundhura (Hobat) Gursum

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Harar and its vicinity is Hawiye land. Harar literally has districts and old medieval towns named after Hawiye himself going back over a millennia and half. We predate Harar in the region so to speak. Harar is surrounded by East Hararge. East Hararge has about 17 districts and we live in 9 of those districts with either majority or a large plurality. Districts include Babile, Mayu Muluqe, Haramaya, Gorugutu, Qarsa, Chinaksan (Jinacsanay), Kombolcha and Kurfa Chale. We also live in West Hararge districts of Mieso and Hawi Gudina. The areas of Hawiya Erer, Ali Keno and Awsharif are names of old Karanle figures buried near Harar and part of Harar special admin zone which is chartered like Dire Dawa.

 

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Now show me where Dir and Madoobe Dir are buried @Ugas.Wacays

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Here comes the hotep shit Harar belongs to Haiwye now. This is on par with the former deputy PM of Somalia saying Haiwye sacked rome

https://x.com/Kooshinnnn/status/1811052590806811043?t=QJ1Pm60yWawIfRBAGCjoZw&s=19

 

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Here comes the hotep shit Harar belongs to Haiwye now. This is on par with the former deputy PM of Somalia saying Haiwye sacked rome

https://x.com/Kooshinnnn/status/1811052590806811043?t=QJ1Pm60yWawIfRBAGCjoZw&s=19

Weak response. I bled for Harar way up until the 1900s Now show me where Dir and Madoobe Dir are buried. I am waiting.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Weak response. I bled for Harar way up until the 1900s Now show me where Dir and Madoobe Dir are buried. I am waiting.

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What is this even talking about?

 

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What is this even talking about?

Prince Lig iyasu period. Every single major battle fought for Harar was led by Hawiye which makes sense because we make up the majority in East Hararghe.

Still waiting for the burial sites.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Prince Lig iyasu period. Every single major battle fought for Harar was led by Hawiye which makes sense because we make up the majority in East Hararghe.

Still waiting for the burial sites.

The Egyptians said Harar was separated in three groups Hararis, ciises , oromos. Hawiye were never mentioned. Oromos and ciises controlled the trade but not Haiwyes. As for fighting ciises were the first line of defense for Harar we lost the most fighters during chelenqo.

 

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The Egyptians said Harar was separated in three groups Hararis, ciises , oromos. Hawiye were never mentioned. Oromos and ciises controlled the trade but not Haiwyes. As for fighting ciises were the first line of defense for Harar we lost the most fighters during chelenqo.

Nah you chatting shit. Hawiye are the Hararis. All the towns and villages outside Harar are Hawiye. Ciise are pastoralists from the desert further north towards the coast.,

 

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The Egyptians said Harar was separated in three groups Hararis, ciises , oromos. Hawiye were never mentioned. Oromos and ciises controlled the trade but not Haiwyes. As for fighting ciises were the first line of defense for Harar we lost the most fighters during chelenqo.

Still waiting for the graves.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Nah you chatting shit. Hawiye are the Hararis. All the towns and villages outside Harar are Hawiye. Ciise are pastoralists from the desert further north towards the coast.,

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What? Hararis are not Somalis if the town outside of harar were Hawiye how come oromos controlled the trade there ?

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Still waiting for the graves.

Never said Dir was buried anywere but you still haven't proved anything were is hawiye buried ?

 

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What? Hararis are not Somalis if the town outside of harar were Hawiye how come oromos controlled the trade there ?

Harari are the people from the town called Harar. Mogadishawi are the people from Mogadishu. The source I send you proofs just that. The oldest market of Harar is named Gidir Magala (you can google it) named after Gidir Hawiye.

Harari foundational tribes like Abogn and Adash are Sexawle reer Garaad sub tribes like Abun and Cadash.

Berbera guys controlled the trade because of the port. It doesn’t mean much. Hawiye controlled the trade from Harar to Banaadir following the shabelle route via imey.

 

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Never said Dir was buried anywere but you still haven't proved anything were is hawiye buried ?

I showed it to you. I’m waiting for Dir burial site. You can play dumb lakin.

 

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Ciise claiming East Hararghe is like Karanle claiming Djibouti. Funny nikka

 

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Only people native to the east of Harar are buried at Erer. The direction of where one’s tomb is located indicates where you are from. See example below

Amir Nur is buried at Erer along with many other famous Hawiye individuals. Erer gate leads to Hawiye Guda and then straight into Baabili. The white circle in the centre is Harar kelel. Hawiye Guda and Erer Hawiye are inside the white circle. Having said this, Hawiye are present in all the districts surrounding Harar like Fadis, Haramaya etc

 

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The amount of Hawiye figures buried at the eastern gate is proof enough.

Many references of the qubbi (tombs of saints) of Eastern Harar, the Erer Gate, can be found in Emile Foucher's 1988 book venerating the Muslim Saints of Harar. Erer Gate hosts the burial site of Sheikh Muhammad Khalif, Amir nur, Umar Ziyad, Sheikh Ahmed Izzin a descendant of Sh Nur Husayn Baliyalle, Emir Abdaal etc

The Mosque which Sheikh Sayed Khalifa Karanle led prayers and was martyred at was built in the time of Amir Nur Mujahid
Harar as the “fourth capital” of Islam, has operated as a holy place for saints since its inception under the magnificent Sheikh Abadir whose sons rode on lions according to some legends and others such as Emir Abdal, right through to the generation of Gragn and Amir Nur Mujahid, till the holiness of Sheikh Ahmed Izzin a descendant of the Bale Hawiye families of Sheikh Nur Hussein Balialle before reaching the generations of Sayid Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa the former Vizier of Harar later under Egpytian Rule and his fellow Karanle successor Sayid Mohamed Nur Al Salahiya. Sayid Sheikh Khalif was martyred in the conquest of Harar with his own sword that had his cut in half by Menelik’s forces and his church converted to the famous Madhan Alam Church in Harar City on the road between Erer Gate and the market’s “Faras Magaala” (former horse market).

The campaign of Sayid Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa, influential leader of the North-Western Hawiye who served first as the leader of the Hawiye at Harar and Zeila (the Ahmed/Mohamed Khatib who met Richard Burton in Zeila) before working in close ties with Emperor Lij Iyasu shortly before his assasination