Somali state new districts

[Ugas.Wacays]

Harari are the people from the town called Harar. Mogadishawi are the people from Mogadishu. The source I send you proofs just that. The oldest market of Harar is named Gidir Magala (you can google it) named after Gidir Hawiye.

Harari foundational tribes like Abogn and Adash are Sexawle reer Garaad sub tribes like Abun and Cadash.

Berbera guys controlled the trade because of the port. It doesn’t mean much. Hawiye controlled the trade from Harar to Banaadir following the shabelle route via imey.

Was the Emir of Harar Hawiye too .

Your a joke they obviously were talking about the Harari ethnic group.
Harar were subject to ciise and they spoke Harari not Somali hotep

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[Ugas.Wacays]

The amount of Hawiye figures buried at the eastern gate is proof enough.

Many references of the qubbi (tombs of saints) of Eastern Harar, the Erer Gate, can be found in Emile Foucher's 1988 book venerating the Muslim Saints of Harar. Erer Gate hosts the burial site of Sheikh Muhammad Khalif, Amir nur, Umar Ziyad, Sheikh Ahmed Izzin a descendant of Sh Nur Husayn Baliyalle, Emir Abdaal etc

The Mosque which Sheikh Sayed Khalifa Karanle led prayers and was martyred at was built in the time of Amir Nur Mujahid
Harar as the “fourth capital” of Islam, has operated as a holy place for saints since its inception under the magnificent Sheikh Abadir whose sons rode on lions according to some legends and others such as Emir Abdal, right through to the generation of Gragn and Amir Nur Mujahid, till the holiness of Sheikh Ahmed Izzin a descendant of the Bale Hawiye families of Sheikh Nur Hussein Balialle before reaching the generations of Sayid Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa the former Vizier of Harar later under Egpytian Rule and his fellow Karanle successor Sayid Mohamed Nur Al Salahiya. Sayid Sheikh Khalif was martyred in the conquest of Harar with his own sword that had his cut in half by Menelik’s forces and his church converted to the famous Madhan Alam Church in Harar City on the road between Erer Gate and the market’s “Faras Magaala” (former horse market).

The campaign of Sayid Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa, influential leader of the North-Western Hawiye who served first as the leader of the Hawiye at Harar and Zeila (the Ahmed/Mohamed Khatib who met Richard Burton in Zeila) before working in close ties with Emperor Lij Iyasu shortly before his assasination

I thought Emir Nur was Marehan when was he Hawiye ?

 

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Was the Emir of Harar Hawiye too .

Who even said this? Dumb nikka. I told you that the Dawuud dynasty took over from the Karanle during the 17th century with the collapse of Aussa.

Your a joke they obviously were talking about the Harari ethnic group.
Harar were subject to ciise and they spoke Harari not Somali hotepView attachment 369166.

You retard those Ethio-Semites are known to be new comers. You won’t see them outside the tiny walled city because they are alien to East Hararghe. The place is goof Hawiye

I thought Emir Nur was Marehan when was he Hawiye ?

Why would he be MX for? Wtf? Bati del Wambara is a Karanle princess from the line of Adash. Gurey is her relative who married her to bring an end to the inner Karanle squabbles. The rulers after Nur like Abbas, Talha and Ibrahim Gasa were Gurey’s nephews. Fuk brings a MX in to this?

 

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@Ugas.Wacays All those Oromo speaking tribes outside Harar are Hawiye. This is our block g. The city clerk of Harar is a Hawiye.

 

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@Ugas.Wacays the famous 1977 Axmed Gurey Batallion was stationed at Harar-Fadis. This is how you know the place is a Hawiye dominated region

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Who even said this? Dumb nikka. I told you that the Dawuud dynasty took over from the Karanle during the 17th century with the collapse of Aussa.

You retard those Ethio-Semites are known to be new comers. You won’t see them outside the tiny walled city because they are alien to East Hararghe. The place is goof Hawiye


Why would he be MX for? Wtf? Bati del Wambara is a Karanle princess from the line of Adash. Gurey is her relative who married her to bring an end to the inner Karanle squabbles. The rulers after Nur like Abbas, Talha and Ibrahim Gasa were Gurey’s nephews. Fuk brings a MX in to this?

Karanle we wuz kangz just stop man its fake

 

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Karanle we wuz kangz just stop man its fake

We don’t need to hotep. The Ethiopian state institutionalised it. 1k long state sponsored monograph by Ethiopia’s greatest public historian is used at the countries only capital sttate university

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

We don’t need to hotep. The Ethiopian state institutionalised it. 1k long state sponsored monograph by Ethiopia’s greatest public historian is used at the countries only capital sttate university

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Nobody trust your Ethiopian state sponsored book

 

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Nobody trust your Ethiopian state sponsored book

Addis Ababa university does though. That’s what matters. Ciise can all die for all I care.

Mekuria is recognized as the greatest Ethiopian public historian. Could give 2 fuks what a langaab thinks

 

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@Ugas.Wacays Still waiting for proof where Dir and Madoobe Dir are buried

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Addis Ababa university does though. That’s what matters. Ciise can all die for all I care.

Mekuria is recognized as the greatest Ethiopian public historian. Could give 2 fuks what a langaab thinks

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Nobody believe ahmed guray was haiwye maybe darood or Dir. Karanle never ruled harar or Aussa that's also fake.

 

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Nobody believe ahmed guray was haiwye maybe darood or Dir. Karanle never ruled harar or Aussa that's also fake.

Ethiopian state does. That’s what matters. A langaab pastoralists from Djibouti and his beliefs are irrelevant. You guys got nothing to do with Adal.

 

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Still waiting for the Madoobe Dir’s burial site.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Ethiopian state does. That’s what matters. A langaab pastoralists from Djibouti and his beliefs are irrelevant. You guys got nothing to do with Adal.

Nobody is more langab than Hawiye honestly but I don't want to go there.
You're a hotep that relies on habesha historians. Ciise were apart Adal and having living the center (saylac) for centuries. Xeer ciise was the result of the fall of Adal.

 

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Nobody is more langab than Hawiye honestly but I don't want to go there.
You're a hotep that relies on habesha historians. Ciise were apart Adal and having living the center (saylac) for centuries. Xeer ciise was the result of the fall of Adal.

The most authoritative Muslim Harari scholar Ahmed Shami drew out Axmed Gurey’s lineage tree and was accepted by the Ethiopian state.

Ciise got nothing to do with Adal. You don’t even live here in east Hararghe. It’s my dhul. I don’t see Ciise here.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

The most authoritative Muslim Harari scholar Ahmed Shami drew out Axmed Gurey’s lineage tree and was accepted by the Ethiopian state.

Ciise got nothing to do with Adal. You don’t even live here in east Hararghe. It’s my dhul. I don’t see Ciise here.

Hotep Karanle keep crying nobody believe habesha books

 

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Hotep Karanle keep crying nobody believe habesha books

If Ahmed Shami a Harari Muslim of Ottoman descent is Habeshi then you as an Ciise are a Jamaican.

Your beliefs are completely irrelevant. It’s what the authories and world academia beliefs that’s important lol

 

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Still waiting for Madoobe Dir burial site. Maybe you wuz wecel

 

[Mckenzie]

Were are the graves ? Or is this the same hotep story you peddle everyday. Haiwye are from Somalia, Dir are known to live in Hararghe and are native unlike......

Hawiye migrated to Southern Somalia from Harar, Galbeed down the Shabelle river. It's not even a debate it is a known tradition and mentioned all the time in academic sources. It just so happens that the Hawiye made such a very early migration it is not even known who was living in Somalia proper prior to them. I assume they were some proto-cushites pushed towards Kenya. The Italians recorded Samaale traditions of a conquest of Swahili and Galla when Somalia was founded. Cassanelli also confirms a large part of the migration was the start of the Ajuran Empire.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

What two different clans are you talking about? Laafo mx is between ceelbuur and jacar no other qabiil lives there except murusade so idk what other qabiil your talking about.

Some centuries back they were kicked out by Cayr i think

Your brother @Step a side told me cayr and Marexaan were fighting there.

And even if Laafo Hawiye was real, that shouldn’t be the name since it was only aideed and his men that you fought which was mostly hg and other yaryars. You didn’t even encounter the other major hawiye subs.

We fought USC which is Hawiya jabhad and no one from Gedo knew the differences between X Reer and X clan. They were all Hawiya from mogaidshu and died very painful death.

Three successive engamentes south of Bardheere against USC rearguard, core and vanguard. What a great battle it was

According to captured USC fighters Aideed stole the niqab of a displaced woman and used it to flee the region all the way to lower jubba.