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[Ugas.Wacays]

It doesn’t matter who it belonged to 500 years ago, when Hawiya came there 160 years ago it was Oromo land and had been for at least 200 years. I am guessing you are Issa who themselves migrated to the area just before Hawiya who even this day were booted out of a kebele in Mieso Somali district that they owned by Oromo, after 2004 when they decided to fight again

Also, no one allied with Oromo, they were always majority which the source I showed even mentions. Fact stands is Hawiye were the only ones who came out with a win, Issa Gurgura and Ogaden were all booted from the lands they expanded on while Hawiye at least kept more than half of it.

I knew you were oromo from the start

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

It doesn’t matter who it belonged to 500 years ago, when Hawiya came there 160 years ago it was Oromo land and had been for at least 200 years. I am guessing you are Issa who themselves migrated to the area just before Hawiya who even this day were booted out of a kebele in Mieso Somali district that they owned by Oromo, after 2004 when they decided to fight again

Also, no one allied with Oromo, they were always majority which the source I showed even mentions. Fact stands is Hawiye were the only ones who came out with a win, Issa Gurgura and Ogaden were all booted from the lands they expanded on while Hawiye at least kept more than half of it.

We're not talking about 500 years ago when your Oromo herd came from Madagascar. Afdem,Meiso and Mullu, all to awash in the 1960s, were a part of the Adal and Issa awraja. Oromos didn't live in these towns; just like in Dire Dawa, your brainless Madagascar herds came begging for a place to stay.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Hawiye migrated to Muli and Maeso? The word Mulli is a Karanle tribe name. That was always Hawiye lands. Go and liberate Dir Dhabe saxib lol

You never lived these places Mullu was apart of a province that ciises and Afars lived Haiwye came later . Go liberate 99% of Hawiye land in ethiopia under Oromos

 

[Step a side]

You never lived these places Mullu was apart of a province that ciises and Afars lived Haiwye came later . Go liberate 99% of Hawiye land in ethiopia under Oromos

It’s you who never lived here lol. Mulli is named after a sub of Gidir. Ciise got smacked up by a sub sub sub sub of Gugundhabe. Go and free Dire Dhabe you qooti.

@Chaseyourdreamzz do you have the link to this old map? Wasn’t this map from the 1800s?

 

[Zek]

I knew you were oromo from the start
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So the Issa in Harar who claim Oromo make the whole of Issa Oromo as well? Got it.

We're not talking about 500 years ago when your Oromo herd came from Madagascar. Afdem,Meiso and Mullu, all to awash in the 1960s, were a part of the Adal and Issa awraja. Oromos didn't live in these towns; just like in Dire Dawa, your brainless Madagascar herds came begging for a place to stay.

False. Issa and Awraja only had the Gurgura and Erer districts. It didn’t even have Issa lands. And Oromo have been in Dire Dawa for many generations, even before Issa but that’s another argument. Accept that you’re wrong and move on.

 

[Step a side]

John Markakis wrote in his book that Hawiye were only couple of miles away from Addis. Even our esteemed brother @Abaq can confirm.

 

[Step a side]

Old Hawiye settlement in the Danakil from the Aussa period.

 

[livinlavish]

So the Issa in Harar who claim Oromo make the whole of Issa Oromo as well? Got it.

False. Issa and Awraja only had the Gurgura and Erer districts. It didn’t even have Issa lands. And Oromo have been in Dire Dawa for many generations, even before Issa but that’s another argument. Accept that you’re wrong and move on.

I always thought dir dhabe was dir land and that they were natives there. Do you have evidence that the oromos settled there before them?

 

[Step a side]

I always thought dir dhabe was dir land and that they were natives there. Do you have evidence that the oromos settled there before them?

He said before Ciise not Gurgura.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Old Hawiye settlement in the Danakil from the Aussa period.

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Very inconsistent messaging.

 

[Step a side]

Very inconsistent messaging.

Jealous much

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Jealous much

 

[Bataati]

@Chaseyourdreamzz do you have the link to this old map? Wasn’t this map from the 1800s?

Here's the link @Step a side

https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agdm/id/23117/

It says 1943

 

[Step a side]

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Hawrarsame are Oromo confirmed by Yfull deep paternal testing. Their is a reason why they are considered low caste even amongst the MX themselves.

Meanwhile Hawiye actually ruled Afar territory. Well known Ciise brother Djbawlah from X even confirmed it. The guy has access to the French translated awssa chronicles.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Hawrarsame are Oromo confirmed by Yfull deep paternal testing. Their is a reason why they are considered low caste even amongst the MX themselves.

Meanwhile Hawiye actually ruled Afar territory. Well known Ciise brother Djbawlah from X even confirmed it. The guy has access to the French translated awssa chronicles.


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According to you everyone has secret chronicles only they can access, lol I took have secret chronicles and manuscripts from ancient Harar which tell me your full of bullshit. I won't bother with the fkd, I'm not getting looped into another endless fkd session.

Explain why think my historical sources are false (also backed up by Ciise locals) but your modern sources are right with no evidence of these supposed awwsa chronicles? Your lucky search bar is missing. When I showed you laafo Hawiye south of Bardheere where one of the two biggest defeats USC suffered during SNF counteroffensive you told me anyone can put a new location in Google maps and call it what they want.


I showed you real maps made by real cartographers from ancient times but you dismissed it without providing any evidence to the contrary. To avoid another endless argument until you provide evidence to suggest the maps I provided are fake or altered than you can keep moving because I won't respond.

 

[Step a side]

According to you everyone has secret chronicles only they can access, lol I took have secret chronicles and manuscripts from ancient Harar which tell me your full of bullshit. I won't bother with the fkd, I'm not getting looped into another endless fkd session.

Explain why think my historical sources are false (also backed up by Ciise locals) but your modern sources are right with no evidence of these supposed awwsa chronicles? Your lucky search bar is missing. When I showed you laafo Hawiye south of Bardheere where one of the two biggest defeats USC suffered during SNF counteroffensive you told me anyone can put a new location in Google maps and call it what they want.


I showed you real maps made by real cartographers from ancient times but you dismissed it without providing any evidence to the contrary. To avoid another endless argument until you provide evidence to suggest the maps I provided are fake or altered than you can keep moving because I won't respond.

1) Awssa chronicles is real.

2) lafo Hawiye is fake as you can’t find it on macparta. Lafo MX near Ceelbuur is real though.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

1) Awssa chronicles is real.

2) lafo Hawiye is fake as you can’t find it on macparta. Lafo MX near Ceelbuur is real though.

https://mapcarta.com/13007552

You've also yet to disprove my original sources and This is also in the afar territory. Did we also rule afars as well?

Modern maps

Historical maps

 

[Step a side]

Did we also rule afars as well?

No you didn’t because the Aussa imamates was a continuation of Adal and was established by Ibrahim Gasa from Bale a relative of Gurey. Gasa family still had wazeers at Harar during that time.
53 to 58 were all from Gasa’s lineage. Dawuud family took over Harar after Awwsa collapsed bringing an end to the Karanle dynasty.

 

[Step a side]

Afar border Hawiye in several districts till this very same day and their imam’s have immense respect for Hawiye but they have no connections with MX whatsoever. Boon is from Caabudwaaq and Gedo

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

No you didn’t because the Aussa imamates was a continuation of Adal and was established by Ibrahim Gasa from Bale a relative of Gurey. Gasa family still had wazeers at Harar during that time.
53 to 58 were all from Gasa’s lineage. Dawuud family took over Harar after Awwsa collapsed bringing an end to the Karanle dynasty.

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But you acknowledge Marehan lived in the area right? I believe the general territory including Sitti region and Afar territory is called the awash valley and infact Marehan locality and Marehan shet as well as Fialu are both near Lake Abha Bad which is at the tail end of the awash valley.

Here is also Marehan locality separate from Marehan shet

Afar border Hawiye in several districts till this very same day and their imam’s have immense respect for Hawiye but they have no connections with MX whatsoever. Boon is from Caabudwaaq and Gedo

But map carta proves Merehan locality and Merehan shet exist just like in ancient maps. I thought map carta was a reliable source?