Somali Salafi says the civil war was a blessing because it brought salafism to Somalia

Following the civil war there hasn’t been Islam in Somalia. Not a single thing that happened follows Islam and more and more people leave the religion. True Islam was abandoned and we adopted a Islam that is all show and no substance. We pray and learn Quran then go outside and act like some gaalos. Also for all you that are happy that Islam is now being forcefully imposed you’ll see the truth in a few decades when everyone is secretly a murtad like places in Iran
 

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The SNM didn't and neither did the SSDF instead we built stable countries

They're mostly as stable as they are because nobody really cared about (still mostly true) those lands in the northeast and northwest. The south was always more fertile, populous and obviously the seat of the largest and most populous city that was and still somewhat is the capital; it was always bound to be the main hotbed of f*ckery after a civil war.
 

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Nope they all destroyed the country. All of them along with msb, alkabab and any other tribal militias are qashin
But MSB, Al Shabaab and the USC has the most blame. Siad barre because he couldn't stop down and turning clans on one other. Al Shabaab for carrying on the war after 2006 and the USC for unilaterally taking the presidency and then killing each other.
 
Salafis are an extreme sect.
Their usul consists of sloppy extreme thinking and then calling you names.

Imagine someone thinking niqab is a fard when all of the ulama are agreed that the awrah of a woman is everything except for what naturally shows (hands and face) in salah.

How is it logical to show your awrah in salah but have to cover it up outside of prayer.

Unfortunately, they make deen into something that people want to leave while taking a deviant approach to everything that the Messenger did.

The Deen is Easy.

Salafiya is about ocd induced mistrust of everyone and everything
 

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The SNM didn't and neither did the SSDF instead we built stable countries

You know what's funny about all this, walaal? If I'm not mistaken, the south was for a time at its most stable under the Islamic Courts Union. In fact, alotta people back home seem to remember the time they were in power with some nostalgia in terms of stability.
 

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You know what's funny about all this, walaal? If I'm not mistaken, the south was for a time at its most stable under the Islamic Courts Union. In fact, alotta people back home seem to remember the time they were in power with some nostalgia in terms of stability.
what happened to the Islamic Courts Union?
 

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Abdillahi Yussuf invited the Ethiopians to invade somalia

I remember how the western media was talking about the Union even as a kid. They made it sound like ISIS during the 2010s. The west and surrounding countries like Ethiopia would just never accept such a regime ruling over Somalia even if it wasn't actually that extreme and in fact made the place more stable.
 

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I remember how the western media was talking about the Union even as a kid. They made it sound like ISIS during the 2010s. The west and surrounding countries like Ethiopia would just never accept such a regime ruling over Somalia even if it wasn't actually that extreme and in fact made the place more stable.
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ICU was a bit disorganized in truth, it had multiple ideologies in it's rank. I think it was Indhacade who said the Addis Ababa remark, but that wasn't the reason the Ethiopians got involved.

The Xabashi invasion was always going to happen. Wikileaks confirms that the Bush administration heavily encouraged and bankrolled Meles Zenawi to go through with it, they also gave financial support to the Warlords to fight the ICU (keep in mind 2006 was peak War on Terror by the Americans). Funnily enough, 2 years later they distanced themselves from Zenawi and Yamamoto said the whole thing was a massive failure.
 
The civil war wasn't a blessing, but rather a punishment for all dhulm we committed against others, and the brazen disobedience against Allah (SWT).

Secularism, which involved the blatant disrespect & killings Ulema and Shuyuukh, is what caused the crash and destruction of The Democratic Republic of Somalia. Also, the dhulm and crimes the regime carried out against innocents is another reason why Somalia is in it's current predicament.

When the regime was toppled, and the dictator was ousted; instead working together to restore the democratic system of Somalia and bring it back to normalcy, we savagely fought each other settle old tribal scores, which caused the mass rape, starvation, and deaths of many civilians and innocents.

My favorite saying is, "Attempt to arrogantly defuse Allah (SWT) & his Messenger's (SAW) teachings, and he (Allah SWT) will humiliate you much more".

Every tribe has committed dhulm and injustice, no one is free from it. As soon as we make sincere Istaghfaar for the crimes that we all committed, we can see Somalia prosperous again.
 
I’m criticize some aspects of Salafism but Salafis didn’t invent the Niqab as many people here claim, that’s a lie. If you hate Arabs, that’s your problem but no need to hide your hatred for Islamic values under “Wahhabism” and “Arab culture.” Muslim women have been wearing the Niqab since the beginning of Islam and some Hanbali scholars view the Niqab as fard whereas the other schools of Fiqh don’t. Hanafi scholars view the Niqab as fard if a women’s face is too cute and it might be temptation for the man.

Ibn Abideen Shami writes in his Raddul Muhtar: “A young women will be prevented from exposing her face, not because it is part of Awrah, rather for the fear of temptation.” (p.532 v.9)

Aisha (رضي الله عنها) tells us: "When (the Verse): "They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms," was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their heads and faces with those cut pieces of cloth." (Sahih al-Bukhari 4759)
 

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Saudi sponsered Wahabbi Salafism promotes uniform hypocrisy, Ive seen it in Somalia where as soo as the girl travels to Nairobi or Turkey abandoning the jilbaab/niqaab and wearing tight skirts and tops. If you let people be free their true self comes out so why enforce rigoruous restrictions.
 

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