Somali Public Foreigner Fear Is National Failure Deflection

[DR OSMAN]

I have to address this topic because in the 21st century their Somalis locally and in the diaspora who keep re-hashing the 'foreign boogeyman' is coming to get us and therefore they argue Somalis must promote Pan Somalism. Since Pan Somalism was introduced 150 years ago till today, more Somalis have died at the hand of another Somali not any FOREIGNER and it's not even a 'close' margin.

Start the Somali death toll assessment from the Mad Mullah Sayid Abdulle Pan Somali drumming and Darawish Wars till today, any reasonable person will clearly see who Somali real enemy is, even if you add up how many foreigners have killed Somalis, it's not even a 'fraction' of how many Somalis killed Somalis.

@SPMLegend, @Removed Somalis were happy and even sending livestock aid to the UAE in PL and Makhir kingdoms, you arose these people with the 'foreign boogeyman' narrative and Pan Somalism, just like how SSDF arose the clan rebel group drumming that led to the 1991 age.

Puntland has accepted it's responsibility for the clan drumming that accumulated into the 1991 Nakba and did it's best to resurrect the SFG, but what has Absame done to address it's pan-somali legacy which has led to 150 years of death/misery and social failure?

 

[DR OSMAN]

This foreign boogey man narrative is only a deflection tool at Somali National failure, U won't unite Somali by creating for them a 'fictious' foreign enemy, can all threads that promote this be removed from Somali-spot, their just rehashing Mad Mullah Pan Somalism war-cry from 150 years like a maskax gumaysan who can't think outside for it for 150 years because they never were 'kingdoms' prior to Somalia like PL/Hobyo/Makhir(maskax xoraysan) they can think outside the 'sayid abdulle sixir' as they were independent states prior to Somalia.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Khasaaraha idin ka racday somalinimo from sayid abdulle and darawish and it's 150 years now is uncountable for Somalis, stop lookin for an external enemy, an external enemy hasn't done all this to you, somalis and somalinimo has. Notice I always 'add' somalinimo, if we remove this idealogy, u won't harm each other anymore and u can all become little Djiboutis, that is better for u, u only united because of this fictious foreign enemy and I debunked it as 'sheeko carureed' not grounded in any observable reality.

 

[DR OSMAN]

PL apologizes to Somali wayn idinkoo iska nabad gaba oo qaran hosteeda ku jiro oo aduunka sharaf ku leh ayaanu durban qabil idin ku kicine, for that I speak for all Puntland waxgarad, we apologize and if raggu apologize or tanasul u let it be in Somali culture, lama soo hadal qado, wa dad is gabtay.

Puntland dembiga ay gashay they have tried to rectify to it's best ability with creating the SFG, now it's beelaha kale idinku meesha aad dembiga ka gasheen dalka, do your bit, ma ceeb ba? ama aanu kala tagnee sida djibouti oo kale hala wada noqdo oo aduunka la tartarmayo so we don't become aborigines where the world advances and we fall behind and eventually become extinct or replaced.

 

[Chase]

The biggest mistake Majeerteen and Abduallhi Yusuf made was to assume the other clans had any dhaqan or gobanimo...

Majeerteen

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And I will never understand this obsession with Sayyid Abdulle Hassan, the man was made a outcast from his very own clan, Mohamed Zubeer called for his head, hence why he had to set up base North with Dhulbahante, any Majeerteen relations he had were soured, he was a nobody.

Somalis are not thinkers, to this day you'll have people swearing he stopped Isaaq from converting to Christianity, and yet he lost, no? Didn't we all lose to the 'kuffar' and end up getting colonised? Why aren't Somalis wearing crosses today?

Walle there is something seriously wrong with our people, it's almost as funny as it is heart breaking.

 

[bidenkulaha]

The biggest mistake Majeerteen and Abduallhi Yusuf made was to assume the other clans had any dhaqan or gobanimo...

Majeerteen

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And I will never understand this obsession with Sayyid Abdulle Hassan, the man was made a outcast from his very own clan, Mohamed Zubeer called for his head, hence why he had to set up base North with Dhulbahante, any Majeerteen relations he had were soured, he was a nobody.

Somalis are not thinkers, to this day you'll have people swearing he stopped Isaaq from converting to Christianity, and yet he lost, no? Didn't we all lose to the 'kuffar' and end up getting colonised? Why aren't Somalis wearing crosses today?

Walle there is something seriously wrong with our people, it's almost as funny as it is heart breaking.

The only thing I know about the Sayid is he died an exile in hawiye lands right? Ironically his darawish carried a lot of raids on miskiin xoolo daqato. He has more Somali blood than any in all likelihood.

Sayid’s legacy which was a major component of Kacaan propaganda, doubt anyone would’ve cared or knew about him in Somalia if it weren’t for them, in truth is why we’re predisposed to terrorism

 

[Bari🐍]

The biggest mistake Majeerteen and Abduallhi Yusuf made was to assume the other clans had any dhaqan or gobanimo...

Majeerteen

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And I will never understand this obsession with Sayyid Abdulle Hassan, the man was made a outcast from his very own clan, Mohamed Zubeer called for his head, hence why he had to set up base North with Dhulbahante, any Majeerteen relations he had were soured, he was a nobody.

Somalis are not thinkers, to this day you'll have people swearing he stopped Isaaq from converting to Christianity, and yet he lost, no? Didn't we all lose to the 'kuffar' and end up getting colonised? Why aren't Somalis wearing crosses today?

Walle there is something seriously wrong with our people, it's almost as funny as it is heart breaking.

The Sayid is one of the most important people in Somali history, don't try to defame his legacy like some gaal. MJ were his earliest supporters, relations soured because of Italian bombardment.

 

[Chase]

The only thing I know about the Sayid is he died an exile in hawiye lands right? Ironically his darawish carried a lot of raids on miskiin xoolo daqato. He has more Somali blood than any in all likelihood.

Sayid’s legacy which was a major component of Kacaan propaganda, doubt anyone would’ve cared or knew about him in Somalia if it weren’t for them, in truth is why we’re predisposed to terrorism

Omar Samatar was a better man than the Sayyid, a commander of the Hobyo Sultan forces, he had great success against the Colonial Police, the Corpo Zaptie, capturing Ceel Buur and Ceel Dheere. The Italians had to bring over two battalions of Eritrean Askari to contain him, but what got him in the end was De Vecchi's bribes to other clans to fight him.

Another case of MJ being back stabbed by their 'fellow' Somalis, just like today, a tale as old as time.

 

[Bari🐍]

Omar Samatar was a better man than the Sayyid, a commander of the Hobyo Sultan forces, he had great success against the Colonial Police, the Corpo Zaptie, capturing Ceel Buur and Ceel Dheere. The Italians had to bring over two battalions of Eritrean Askari to contain him, but what got him in the end was De Vecchi's bribes to other clans to fight him.

Another case of MJ being back stabbed by their 'fellow' Somalis, just like today, a tale as old as time.

Name the clan that fought us for gaal you know who it is...

 

[Chase]

The Sayid is one of the most important people in Somali history, don't try to defame his legacy like some gaal. MJ were his earliest supporters, relations soured because of Italian bombardment.

Sayyid = Modern day Al-Shabab, guy was a lunatic preying on the weak and defenceless, was obsessed with Qabilyaad and destroyed the ties between Majeerteen and Ogaden, caused a rift between Harti (Cismaan Maxamuud were forced to crush an attempt by Dhulbahante & Warsangeli to take over Bari) and was exiled by his own clan, naga aamus.

 

[Bari🐍]

Sayyid = Modern day Al-Shabab, guy was a lunatic preying on the weak and defenceless, was obsessed with Qabilyaad and destroyed the ties between Majeerteen and Ogaden, caused a rift between Harti (Cismaan Maxamuud were forced to crush an attempt by Dhulbahante & Warsangeli to take over Bari) and was exiled by his own clan, naga aamus.

You don't know history. Boqor Cismaan and Kenaadid were allied to the Sayid and supported him with weapons. Cismaan was even thinking at one point to take Harar back together. Hobyo sultan got arrested because he didn't let British use his land to fight the darawiish. Italians bombed the coast of Migiurtinia so they stopped supporting him. So funny you say he was obsessed with qabil, that's how I know you never understood the man. He claimed to have no qabil dummy, in the end he insulted every qabil even his own not because he was qabilist, but because he felt they all turned on him.

 

[Chase]

You don't know history. Boqor Cismaan and Kenaadid were allied to the Sayid and supported him with weapons. Cismaan was even thinking at one point to take Harar back together. Hobyo sultan got arrested because he didn't let British use his land to fight the darawiish. Italians bombed the coast of Migiurtinia so they stopped supporting him. So funny you say he was obsessed with qabil, that's how I know you never understood the man. He claimed to have no qabil dummy, in the end he insulted every qabil even his own not because he was qabilist, but because he felt they all turned on him.

This is some of the dumbest sh!t I've heard, the Sayyid and Kenadiid were beefing before the Italians bombarded the coast, it was Kenadiid's honour he didn't turn on him, even if they had their mishaps with one another.

The man was a lunatic killing and raiding innocents for their livestock, why do you think the Ogaden turned on him? Were they all wrong and he was in the right? Majeerteniya was the last Somali Sultunate to fall to the Italians, before that Hobyo, he was a exemplary tactician on the battle field but lacked foresight when it came to forging clan alliances, that's it.

I'd argue the Dervish 'state' never even existed, but that's a topic for another day.

 

[Bari🐍]

This is some of the dumbest sh!t I've heard, the Sayyid and Kenadiid were beefing before the Italians bombarded the coast, it was Kenadiid's honour he didn't turn on him, even if they had their mishaps with one another.

The man was a lunatic killing and raiding innocents for their livestock, why do you think the Ogaden turned on him? Were they all wrong and he was in the right? Majeerteniya was the last Somali Sultunate to fall to the Italians, before that Hobyo, he was a exemplary tactician on the battle field but lacked foresight when it came to forging clan alliances, that's it.

I'd argue the Dervish 'state' never even existed, but that's a topic for another day.

Yes they were beefing, but the Sayid still received supplies from both of them. The darawiish were even saved by Migiurtinia at the last moment when the British were about to finish them off. The British complained to the Italians and they bombed our cities. You sound like those complaining Idoor, you would have loved to be British camel corps.

 

[Chase]

Yes they were beefing, but the Sayid still received supplies from both of them. The darawiish were even saved by Migiurtinia at the last moment when the British were about to finish them off. The British complained to the Italians and they bombed our cities. You sound like those complaining Idoor, you would have loved to be British camel corps.

Are you MJ?

 

[Bari🐍]

This is some of the dumbest sh!t I've heard, the Sayyid and Kenadiid were beefing before the Italians bombarded the coast, it was Kenadiid's honour he didn't turn on him, even if they had their mishaps with one another.

The man was a lunatic killing and raiding innocents for their livestock, why do you think the Ogaden turned on him? Were they all wrong and he was in the right? Majeerteniya was the last Somali Sultunate to fall to the Italians, before that Hobyo, he was a exemplary tactician on the battle field but lacked foresight when it came to forging clan alliances, that's it.

I'd argue the Dervish 'state' never even existed, but that's a topic for another day.

And the Dervish state did exist, oh my goodness you really do not know anything. There was even a period of peace he signed a treaty with Italians and was given land in Nugaal between Migiurtinia and Hobyo. Why do you think there are forts in Eyl?

 

[Bari🐍]

Are you MJ?

Yes, look at my name.

 

[Chase]

Yes, look at my name.

Cismaan?

 

[DR OSMAN]

The biggest mistake Majeerteen and Abduallhi Yusuf made was to assume the other clans had any dhaqan or gobanimo...

Majeerteen

m.youtube.com

And I will never understand this obsession with Sayyid Abdulle Hassan, the man was made a outcast from his very own clan, Mohamed Zubeer called for his head, hence why he had to set up base North with Dhulbahante, any Majeerteen relations he had were soured, he was a nobody.

Somalis are not thinkers, to this day you'll have people swearing he stopped Isaaq from converting to Christianity, and yet he lost, no? Didn't we all lose to the 'kuffar' and end up getting colonised? Why aren't Somalis wearing crosses today?

Walle there is something seriously wrong with our people, it's almost as funny as it is heart breaking.

Do not let absame/darawish sneak away from its legacy, durban somaliyeed iyo foreigner phobia bay garaceen when it never existed at the time while all somalis were separated from each other and didn't care 4 somalinimo. Even some kingdoms they were productive kingdoms in it's day and sending foreign aid to UAE.

Dadkan oo nabad iska gaba oo masakinta ah bay durban somaliyeed sixir ku aqriyeen iyago nabad gaba iyo xuman aan jirin, 150 years later we witnessed nothing but somali hatred and killing and national failure and on the verge of becoming the next aborigines as the world leaves us behind due to that mad mullah sayid and darawish legacy. Iyaguna wa inay dambigooda qaatan

 

[Bari🐍]

Cismaan?

I don't divulge my subclan on this forum, find it weird. But I'm from Bari, it doesn't take a scientist to figure out which one I am. Are you MJ yourself?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Chase @Bari🐍 I only care about the legacy left behind today which is somalinimo for 150 year, what their motives and clan agendas is irrelevant to me as its all ku tiri ku teen based on what clan narrates.

I am criticizing the idealogy left behind today not absame or darawish, why teach the ppl such thing when they never knew it and were happy and fine. Today we are cleaning up after somalinimo blood bath it has caused on somali. U can be somali and anti somalinimo, somalinimo is a sick idealogy to unite somalis with a foreign boogeyman and when the foreign boogeyman is no longer there all they do is kill each other again.