Sigh. Naaya you aren’t single because men are being coddled or immature it’s because you’re the typical rank and file mediocre woman who wants an exceptional guy. Lower your standards and stop complaining
Somali men have been babied by their mothers
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Doesn't that mean all men who aren't married are commiting some type of zina according to your point since most men are not a-sexual or have T or sex drive.
Looool I'm from the UK too, I know exactly what you mean, there is a socioeconomic barrier that's hard to push through. Nah, im probably an agnostic for life tbh, I've been this way for a decade. I have a somali gf and we truly get each other tbh, she isn't two faced and we mesh really well.It's a weird "having your cake and eating it too" mindset that I've noticed on and offline, I just find it comical at this point wallahi. I love it when girls are forthcoming about it, let's me know to gtfo ASAP. I personally couldn't give less of a shit about being cooked and cleaned for, I'm not some in competent retard who can't take care of himself. I'm more concerned about the fact that the avg salary (sub 50k annual) wouldn't get you on the housing market, much less be enough to raise a family. Not to mention the mortgage interest rates in the UK increasing in July
Chill with the gaal shit though, atheism is gay asf lol
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ot a recurring theme, our marriage rates are higher than any other group. It’s just that it’s so unusual to see unmarried guys who also express their lifelong commitment to not getting married that it shocks certain people.
Why she getting angry? She should have just ignored you and moved on. I really wouldn’t be able to be able to take a man that expects me to provide seriously let alone get angry. I think every man should have the goal to allow his wife to stay home for bit especially if kids are in the picture. Obviously things like deposit for a mortgage ect is different. It makes sense to combine incomes to buy a house. That I get and tbh most professional Somalis I know did that. I’m sorry but raising kids in the ghetto so he can fully provide isn’t smart. But I do think long-term after you’ve split deposits ect it should be a long term goal to be the provider.I love how the narrative shifts from "Who needs men? Somali guys are bums!" to "sOmAli meN wOulDn'T acCept rEspoNsIbliTy" soon as they start hitting their mid/late 20s and guys start earning some real lacag
Late 20s/early 30s is when men, who aren't out of shape ugly slobs, are spoilt for choice. Consequence free sex is a couple Hinge taps away. Zina aside, why would any man with an above room temp IQ shackle himself and thanklessly shoulder the financial burden when he could enjoy the fruits of his labour instead? Genuinely.
It's not like we're faced with the risk of not being able to carry a pregnancy to term, we can afford wait till our mid to late 30s if we just lift, have a decent skin-care routine and avoid the bidaar scrouge.
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Your first point, Let’s be real, Muslim men who fear Allah don’t have that luxury. You can’t enjoy the fruits of your labour and just date around. It’s either be celibate or marry. No in between, so for us Muslims men and women still need each other. No going about it. For gaals? Your point 100% is correct .
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If you want to be a stay at home wife, then get married right after high school graduation at 18 or right after you get your bachelor's at 22 to someone older that can fund the humble lifestyle. Wanting to not work like a decade after high school graduation is not sincere; that's predatory.
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that is the crux of the issue for many.
everyone want it all to go there way. they don't realize what path you choose in life will have an effect on your dream out come of having your caking and eating it. not that its not possible but most aren't that lucky and think just because someone else has done it who just so happens to not be mediocre like themselves then they can do it aswell
to many delusional people out there and there numbers are only going to increase
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They are so delusional. Why is it an issue for a woman to get her Islamic right of being provided for? Aren't young men supposed to be better in providing compared to our fathers generation?
Women are too boujee for that
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if you pursue the wrong guy/girl then you cant really expect to get what you want islamically from them because they aren't on the same page as you. if the deen of the individual isn't your top priority then that's what's going to happen. simply pursue better men/women instead of getting hung up on those that don't live there lives the way you want them to.
its dumb to approach a non hijabi at all if you want a hijabi wife for example.
Hypohetically, let's say my salary's 40k. After making the monthly mortagage payments, utility bills, car insurance, food shop and other miscellaneous shit, there's probably less than £500 left over for savings. If that. If simple arthematic turns her into a fucking mush-brained raging chimpanzee, then Alhamdulillah, I'm glad she let the mask slip so early lol
I don't plan on being at the bank's mercy my entire adult life. I want to pay off the roof over our heads and be able to raise children in a nice area with semi-decent schools. A single income wouldn't be able to afford us that lifestyle unless she was willing to pull her weight too. Being able to support your wife fully is every man's long term goal, but let's be realisitic hunno. That's probably not going to be the case for the vast majority of us. At best it's be a 75/25 split.
Most of the women in my family, particularly the ones I looked up to and who set the standard, are professional women who managed to balance having children and work. So I don't buy into this notion that women are basically incapable of lifting a finger the moment they squeeze a kid or two out.
So either she was an incompetent retard who would've crippled my chances of having smart capable children or she wanted to chill at home binging Netflix on my dime. Either way, sorry love, not happening
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Chances are the older men who are making half way decent money already have families. I don't get this weird fantasy world they're living in wallahi. They're similar to "white pride" dickheads who long for a 1950s style family dynamic where the men worked and covered all the expenses whilst women baked pies in fucking floral pattern sun dresses all day.
"Mashallah, based and trad-pilled sis"
Chances are the older men who are making half way decent money already have families. I don't get this weird fantasy world they're living in wallahi. They're similar to "white pride" dickheads who long for a 1950s style family dynamic where the men worked and covered all the expenses whilst women baked pies in fucking floral pattern sun dresses all day.
"Mashallah, based and trad-pilled sis"
Adapt (to your environment) or die (i.e., your lineage ends).
Predatory? It’s a woman’s rights. Men not be able to fulfil that doesn’t make women wanting that regardless of age predatory. @Javelin I’m surprised you’re liking this. I’m sorry but as Muslims whether a woman is a young virgin, widow or divorce doesn’t take away her rights to be provided for similarly to the way a man’s age doesn’t take away his rights to be listened to in a relationship.
This is just downright misogyny at this point and people being so Westernised that women’s most basic fundamental rights are now a threat.
I understand as a man not being able to afford it and wanting help and if you and your partner are able to work together in that regard cool. But don’t you lot dare try to and shame women for the most basic right that they have. You really can’t have any expectations as a man tbh if you can’t provide. Simple as, so let’s not try and change the rule book.
I don’t think you know how these women struggle and how there is a whole dialogue going on that women are talking about. A lot of the women in my family to btw work and have children, but they do struggle. They try their best. It’s tiring and especially when you add in a lot of the complications women go through health wise after they’ve given birth. I don’t think it’s fair as a man to dismiss it.
Saxib? Im a woman with lots of friends who are mothers and family members. They struggle but they get on with it as their kids depends on them. It isn’t easy whatsoever, nor is it a lifestyle that’s preferred but people have rent to pay.So either she was an incompetent retard who would've crippled my chances of having smart capable children or she wanted to chill at home binging Netflix on my dime. Either way, sorry love, not happening
Being a mother is one of the hardest jobs so making it seem like housewives are out here just watching TV kinda shows me you can’t relate. Bleeding for a whole month, sleepless nights, going to to work with only 2-3 hrs sleep, breasts hurting due to having a lot of milk, change of having PND, I think it’s crazy when you think about what women got through and we have men dismissing it. I actually blame us women for acting like soldiers and not telling the men around us what the hell goes on. A lot of men are clueless and just see the women in their families making it look easy as mothers will soldier on and sacrifice everything for their kids. The idea of women being ‘super’ women and being able to do it all is creating all sorts of issues And resentments.
dont you say all the time in the west noone can survive on a single income? dont you encourage women to work? don't you think its good for a women to make her own money and not rely on her husband? dont you think that if a women wants to a live a decent life with her husband she has to work alongside him?
I am the complete opposite of a misogynist. If I was President of Somalia, the country would be #1 in the world for having the most best treated women and girls.
All I'm saying is if you want to be a housewife, then you should get married as early as possible or be a widowed housewife. It's not reasonable to expect to be a housewife so late into your life. It shows you only want to be saved after working in the real world and realizing it wasn't for you or getting tired of the grind.
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@DangerBadan you moving like a female incel ,fix up
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