Somali girl want the somalia government to help after her Pakistan husband refused to renew her residents.

[Aegon]

we’re not half the men our grandfathers were, we have lost our masculinity, we calaacal and gossip more than our female counterparts. A man is one who understands the meaning of responsibility, accountable, integrity and not only loyalty and honor.
Before we ask anything of our women how about we raise our standards as men. We are the leaders of our race not our women, we are holding them accountable for our failures and that ain’t manly.

we have all these threads shaming our females for their failures, where are the threads where we discuss how to level up and become the men women desire.

They are the only ones responsible, they have destroyed our reputation, our honor, our traditions, it’s extremely difficult to raise a daugther in this word, even outside you are not protect from her fréquentation

 

[Kane]

They are the only ones responsible, they have destroyed our reputation, our honor, our traditions, it’s extremely difficult to raise a daugther in this word, even outside you are not protect from her fréquentation

A little girl that grows up in her fathers masculine presence and with his manly love. Will never bring harm to her own kind, it’s the fatherless self hating women who do all that, and who is at fault here the absent father. So curse the cause and not the symptom and take note for your daughters graceful futures.

 

[Angelina]

somali women are notoriously difficult to "control". Pakis and Arabs have a way around disobedient women, it's called "honor killing". We don't. So when xaliimos refuse to listen to their male family members, we choose to let them be instead of savagely murdering them, and this is the result.

Funny how the first thing that comes to mind is ‘honor killing’.

Abuse and murder shouldn’t even be on anyones mind when it comes to women but I suppose misogyny is so deep that people are now blaming not be able to murder their own child as a reason. You would never say Somali boys are hard to control this is why some sell drugs and end up in Prison because we don’t have a culture of killing them. What a world to live in wallahi.

Despite Arabs and Asians strict culture, you still see some of their girls married to madow men and recently a lot of Faraxs have married Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls. I thought their culture was so strict right? So how did that happen?

The reality is that the vast majority of Somali girls marry Somali men, despite our culture being supposde ‘lenient’ and I would say there just as much Arab/Asian girls that marry out if not more. That is the reality of living in a globalized world. Some simply will.

I know there are some here salivating at the idea of throwing acid on girls and offing them, as it seems to be the first thing they think keeps women in line. May Allah deal with those types. I say this, because whenever we have conversations like this, it seems to be the 1st thing on these guys minds and it is downright scary.

 

[Angelina]

Brother believe me, they don’t care about that, if you try to stop them, they will call you incels and insecure

Shut up, you are the very definition of a weirdo incel. Your obsession with a group of women who make up less than 1% of the community and your constant stream of threads is sickening. Newsflash, all types of women marry out, it happens.

 

[Abu Hesi]

Time and time again, calaacal after calaacal, as long she ain't a family member of mine I could care less. Nimankii ka dhalatay ha u gurmadaan.

 

[Angelina]

Ah, now the blame is on the Somali guys. When Xalimo wants to marry an ajnabi guy, she doesn't give a shit what her mahrems are telling her. She runs with the ajnabi guy.

And in the Somali community, we don't have an honor killing culture like other Muslim communities in the Middle East and South East Asia do. This is how other communities deter their girls from crossing the line. But us (Somalis), we don't risk everything on a girl who ran with an ajnabi guy - meaning, when push comes to shove, she has to deal with the consequences of dealing with her choices. All that mahrems can do warn her and tell her not to do that. But just like many Halimos do, they don't listen the counsel of their parents and other male relatives.

Now, all of a sudden, it is the Somali men's fault when those xalimos get in trouble. Tough luck, they need to learn dealing with their consequences of their boolshit "romantic" choices. We aint keepers of leftovers and muuq-shabeel kids.

Other communities have girls that marry out as well, many Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls are married to Faraxs. How did that happen? How have not been honor killed as you mention?

messed up that you think mad men killing their daughters somehow keeps people in line when the very topic was about neglectful Somali dads which is an issue. Yet according to you, the only reason why is HOnOr KiLLiNG.

 

[Aegon]

Shut up, you are the very definition of a weirdo incel. Your obsession with a group of women who make up less than 1% of the community and your constant stream of threads is sickening. Newsflash, all types of women marry out, it happens.

What did i expect for a girl like you nayaa ? i can show you a women who murdered her husband in cold blood and you will still defend her.

Shut up

 

[Aegon]

Other communities have girls that marry out as well, many Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls are married to Faraxs. How did that happen? How have not been honor killed as you mention?

messed up that you think mad men killing their daughters somehow keeps people in line when the very topic was about neglectful Somali dads which is an issue. Yet according to you, the only reason why is HOnOr KiLLiNG.

Because these communities know very well that the last majority of Somali men are good husband, not abuser, treat their wife good, provide them money and a house ecy

 

[Angelina]

What did i expect for a girl like you nayaa ? i can show you a women who murdered her husband in cold blood and you will still defend her.

Shut up

Illogical comment. Tugging at straws as usual. Grow up kid and get off the damn internet. I can see you slowly being radicalised.

 

[Angelina]

Because these communities know very well that the last majority of Somali men are good husband, not abuser, treat their wife good, provide them money and a house ecy

Every community prefers their daughters marry in. Oh but its one rule for us and one rule for them? Most of these Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls had to fight to marry their Somali husbands and I even know a couple as well.

 

[Aegon]

Every community prefers their daughters marry in. Oh but its one rule for us and one rule for them? Most of these Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls had to fight to marry their Somali husbands and I even know a couple as well.

Yes it's normal. When a man takes a woman outside the group it is a success for the group, when a woman from inside the group is taken by a man from outside it is a failure for the group.

Usually, alliances between groups are formed by an egalitarian exogamy: I give you my sister and you give me your sister. However, this is only possible when there is a minimum of equality between the two groups. When a group is clearly disadvantaged compared to the first (which is the case), the exchange of sisters would lead to the disappearance of the minority group.

 

[Ahmed123-]

Somehow, the blame was shifted to Somali men. How is the wali supposed to know that his sister/daughter is talking to a non-Mahram man unless she tells him that this isn't the Stone Age. The internet is a thing. You can talk to anyone privately without anyone else knowing, unless you follow your sister around and go through their phone. You will never know and even then they can just delete the evidence. Just take your L

 

[Oday-yar]

Funny how the first thing that comes to mind is ‘honor killing’.

Abuse and murder shouldn’t even be on anyones mind when it comes to women but I suppose misogyny is so deep that people are now blaming not be able to murder their own child as a reason. You would never say Somali boys are hard to control this is why some sell drugs and end up in Prison because we don’t have a culture of killing them. What a world to live in wallahi.

Despite Arabs and Asians strict culture, you still see some of their girls married to madow men and recently a lot of Faraxs have married Pakistani and Bangladeshi girls. I thought their culture was so strict right? So how did that happen?

The reality is that the vast majority of Somali girls marry Somali men, despite our culture being supposde ‘lenient’ and I would say there just as much Arab/Asian girls that marry out if not more. That is the reality of living in a globalized world. Some simply will.

I know there are some here salivating at the idea of throwing acid on girls and offing them, as it seems to be the first thing they think keeps women in line. May Allah deal with those types. I say this, because whenever we have conversations like this, it seems to be the 1st thing on these guys minds and it is downright scary.

I think you misunderstood me. I am not advocating for honor killing or murdering women. It was just an observation. I much rather be the way we are today than have arab or paki obsessive, abusive culture.

As for marriage, people should be able to marry whoever they want and that isn't something bad at all.

Lastly, it's true Arabs and south asians do marry outside of their ethnic groups too but when you adjust the numbers, somali people, both men and women seem to marry out more and like I said that's not a problem at all because I am not one to police the choices of others. However, I was explaining why it happens. Lack of strong, closely knit culture/households with strong male at the helm.

for example, I married a Somali woman because I am proud of my heritage, culture, and language, and I wanted to be with someone who is from where I am from and to me, these things are very important, and I want the same for my children inshallah. Other people don't care so much and fall in love with someone that's not from their country, and for them, that's enough.

 

[reer]

I think you misunderstood me. I am not advocating for honor killing or murdering women. It was just an observation. I much rather be the way we are today than have arab or paki obsessive, abusive culture.

As for marriage, people should be able to marry whoever they want and that isn't something bad at all.

Lastly, it's true Arabs and south asians do marry outside of their ethnic groups too but when you adjust the numbers, somali people, both men and women seem to marry out more and like I said that's not a problem at all because I am not one to police the choices of others. However, I was explaining why it happens. Lack of strong, closely knit culture/households with strong male at the helm.

for example, I married a Somali woman because I am proud of my heritage, culture, and language, and I wanted to be with someone who is from where I am from and to me, these things are very important, and I want the same for my children inshallah. Other people don't care so much and fall in love with someone that's not from their country, and for them, that's enough.

in south asian culture xaaska becomes a shaqaalo for the husbands mom and its commonplace to be bossed around by husbands mom. if i was a gabadh from a family with that dhaqan i would only marry ajnabi guy.

 

[reer]

I told you I have a sympathy for her. And believe me if there is a go fund me page, I would donate to her. Perhaps you can start one if you're genuine with your concern.

That being said, yes, we are gonna highlight these women running with ajnabi men and then running back to us (Somali community). You need to realize the topic of Xalimo running with ajnabi men and crying back is far too common nowadays. Some of those ajnabi men are dissing their wives and the Somali community online. So yes, the Halimos' naivety is in full play here, and people are gonna talk about it. You can't just shut us off.

not just ajnabis. but south asians and afghans have extreme strict cultures.

 

[Abdullah445]

in south asian culture xaaska becomes a shaqaalo for the husbands mom and its commonplace to be bossed around by husbands mom. if i was a gabadh from a family with that dhaqan i would only marry ajnabi guy.

They are heartless, they rape and beat the girls and treat them like trash

 

[Abdullah445]

Asian men and their colourist, insecure controlling/abusive ways and families.
Madow men and their neglect, fetishism and sixir.
White men who could be undercover spies and serial killing white supremacists.

We've heard it all at this point, over and over again.

Stick to Faaraxs, you know what you're getting most of the time.

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etc. etc. etc.

Wtf

 

[Oday-yar]

in south asian culture xaaska becomes a shaqaalo for the husbands mom and its commonplace to be bossed around by husbands mom. if i was a gabadh from a family with that dhaqan i would only marry ajnabi guy.

south asians are the worst. apparently, they'll do sixir to induce obedience from women and it that fails, it's honor killing. That's literally hell!

Somali culture is much more lenient which is good, I just think with a little tweak, we'll be in a better shape.

 

[senor chang]

south asians are the worst. apparently, they'll do sixir to induce obedience from women and it that fails, it's honor killing. That's literally hell!

Somali culture is much more lenient which is good, I just think with a little tweak, we'll be in a better shape.

Arab is worse than south Asians in term of honour killing

 

[Oday-yar]

Arab is worse than south Asians in term of honour killing

they are all bunch of primitive savages! I had arab neighbors when I was younger, and the husband would go with his wife for grocery shopping, and when they came back, he'd stay in the car as she unloaded the car making several trips. When she was done, he'd walk behind her into the house carrying nothing. it must be a nightmare for those women!