Somali girl want the somalia government to help after her Pakistan husband refused to renew her residents.

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

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Fobs and diaspora Somali males need to spend less time on social media and more time building a bond with their female relative. They are supposed to act like mahrem and check and supervise their sisters as they are courted by men.

Instead they neglect their Mahrem duties and then cry when it's too late and their sister has forced their father to accept the Madow Jail Revert/underachiever, West African Sixir practitioner, Abu Falafel, Ginger Revert or Patel who wants her to live in his family house.

 

[senor chang]

Asian men tend to be very possessive, over everything. So, divorcing an Asian man and leaving with the children will be a nightmare. Forget about shared custody and amicable co-parenting. There was a film made about an American woman who tried to leave her abusive Iranian husband. It doesn't matter if you are from their country or if you are from another ethnic group or another race altogether, the crazy always comes out.

*there are exceptions but who wants to risk their life to find out?
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Doesn’t stop white women from dating them

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Doesn’t stop white women from dating them

White women probably take more risks as they are less likely to be informed of these strange cultures.

 

[senor chang]

White women probably take more risks as they are less likely to be informed of these strange cultures.

Lol they know Middle Eastern men are sexist and controlling wife beaters everyone knows that they just don’t care

 

[Man with a garuun]

Fobs and diaspora Somali males need to spend less time on social media and more time building a bond with their female relative. They are supposed to act like mahrem and check and supervise their sisters as they are courted by men.

Instead they neglect their Mahrem duties and then cry when it's too late and their sister has forced their father to accept the Madow Jail Revert/underachiever, West African Sixir practitioner, Abu Falafel, Ginger Revert or Patel who wants her to live in his family house.

Ah, now the blame is on the Somali guys. When Xalimo wants to marry an ajnabi guy, she doesn't give a shit what her mahrems are telling her. She runs with the ajnabi guy.

And in the Somali community, we don't have an honor killing culture like other Muslim communities in the Middle East and South East Asia do. This is how other communities deter their girls from crossing the line. But us (Somalis), we don't risk everything on a girl who ran with an ajnabi guy - meaning, when push comes to shove, she has to deal with the consequences of dealing with her choices. All that mahrems can do warn her and tell her not to do that. But just like many Halimos do, they don't listen the counsel of their parents and other male relatives.

Now, all of a sudden, it is the Somali men's fault when those xalimos get in trouble. Tough luck, they need to learn dealing with their consequences of their boolshit "romantic" choices. We aint keepers of leftovers and muuq-shabeel kids.

 

[Abdisamad]

This is why you marry your own kind.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Ah, now the blame is on the Somali guys. When Xalimo wants to marry an ajnabi guy, she doesn't give a shit what her mahrems are telling her. She runs with the ajnabi guy.

And in the Somali community, we don't have an honor killing culture like other Muslim communities in the Middle East and South East Asia do. This is how other communities deter their girls from crossing the line. But us (Somalis), we don't risk everything on a girl who ran with an ajnabi guy - meaning, when push comes to shove, she has to deal with the consequences of dealing with her choices. All that mahrems can do warn her and tell her not to do that. But just like many Halimos do, they don't listen the counsel of their parents and other male relatives.

Now, all of a sudden, it is the Somali men's fault when those xalimos get in trouble. Tough luck, they need to learn dealing with their consequences of their boolshit "romantic" choices. We aint keepers of leftovers and muuq-shabeel kids.

I am not absolving these women from the blame, my very first post in this topic was that the woman made a big mistake. Furthermore, I am blaming families who are negligent and unaware of who their children are entertaining. Two things can be true at the same time.

Somali men are responsible for the halimos in their family, literally, that's a man's job; to be a mahrem. That doesn't mean saying yes or no to who a woman wants to marry, it means being engaged and present since day 1. Do Somali men know who their sister/daughter is talking to? Do they tag along to dates? If not, then they are failing in their duties.

The truth is that a lot of these ajnabi man-Somali women marriages are usually started without parental/familial awareness. By the time the family finds out, she's already in deep and maybe under sixir already.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The Somali dating style can only survive in Somalia, it's haram even then, but at least you know your child will end up with a Somali. Disaster struck Somalis, when they brought the same attitude to the diaspora. If you let your child date without your knowledge or you ignore their romantic life altogether, you cannot also be shocked when they bring someone you don't like home. Somalis in the diaspora need to set up Somali match-making services, Somali community centres and so forth. In addition, Islam must be practiced and girls/boys should not be alone without a mahrem present/aware. If this was done, hardly any foreign creep would slip through the net.

Islam tells us this about raising children:

“Play with them for the first seven years (of their life); then teach them for the next seven years; then advise them for the next seven years (and after that).” The above Hadith of the Prophet gives us the guidance to divide the upbringing of a child into three stages.

Befriend your children, train them to consult you and hopefully they will let you know earlier on if they are into a foreign man/woman. A lot of people do listen to wise counsel, if there is trust and love there. Also, teach your children from young to pray and read adkaar, at least this way they'll have protection from the evil eye and saaxiriin.

 

[Jaydaan]

The Somali dating style can only survive in Somalia, it's haram even then, but at least you know your child will end up with a Somali. Disaster struck Somalis, when they brought the same attitude to the diaspora. If you let your child date without your knowledge or you ignore their romantic life altogether, you cannot also be shocked when they bring someone you don't like home. Somalis in the diaspora need to set up Somali match-making services, Somali community centres and so forth. In addition, Islam must be practiced and girls/boys should not be alone without a mahrem present/aware. If this was done, hardly any foreign creep would slip through the net.

Islam tells us this about raising children:

“Play with them for the first seven years (of their life); then teach them for the next seven years; then advise them for the next seven years (and after that).” The above Hadith of the Prophet gives us the guidance to divide the upbringing of a child into three stages.

Befriend your children, train them to consult you and hopefully they will let you know earlier on if they are into a foreign man/woman. A lot of people do listen to wise counsel, if there is trust and love there. Also, teach your children from young to pray and read adkaar, at least this way they'll have protection from the evil eye and saaxiriin.

Somali women are stubborn. Most families have to choice when the woman bring unsuitable man. Either accept or I will be with him anyway. I seen Somali women marry ajnabi after their families denied them and lie about their families to mosques saying their family is not Muslim or denied a fellow Muslim on race

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Somali women are stubborn. Most families have to choice when the woman bring unsuitable man. Either accept or I will be with him anyway. I seen Somali women marry ajnabi after their families denied them and lie about their families to mosques saying their family is not Muslim or denied a fellow Muslim on race

What causes this stubborness? Being ill-raised or ill-informed that's what.
Do you know what these Somali women tell their families about their foreign husbands? Lies such as "You can't say no to someone if he is Muslim". We are certainly allowed to turn down someone for not being suitable for our children/incompatible.

Anyone who emotionally blackmails their family into accepting a foreigner, is someone who is in too deep. Nobody is emotionally blackmailing their family over someone they just met, unless they are insane or under sixir.

The truth is that Somalis have a lot of children and raise them like free-range chickens, letting them roam around and then they act shocked when foxes eat their chickens.

 

[Basra]

How do we know she is not Pakistani who speaks aaf somali with that Burkha

 

[Jaydaan]

What causes this stubborness? Being ill-raised or ill-informed that's what.
Do you know what these Somali women tell their families about their foreign husbands? Lies such as "You can't say no to someone if he is Muslim". We are certainly allowed to turn down someone for not being suitable for our children/incompatible.

Anyone who emotionally blackmails their family into accepting a foreigner, is someone who is in too deep. Nobody is emotionally blackmailing their family over someone they just met, unless they are insane or under sixir.

The truth is that Somalis have a lot of children and raise them like free-range chickens, letting them roam around and then they act shocked when foxes eat their chickens.

Fully agree. Parents are at fault. Specially dads. It’s sad because I see these foxes target Somali women as easy targets. They know the family won’t get involved once they have the woman and the woman tend to be too proud to go back to her family and report mistreatment because she don’t want to hear I TOLD YOU SO.

 

[Aegon]

I am not absolving these women from the blame, my very first post in this topic was that the woman made a big mistake. Furthermore, I am blaming families who are negligent and unaware of who their children are entertaining. Two things can be true at the same time.

Somali men are responsible for the halimos in their family, literally, that's a man's job; to be a mahrem. That doesn't mean saying yes or no to who a woman wants to marry, it means being engaged and present since day 1. Do Somali men know who their sister/daughter is talking to? Do they tag along to dates? If not, then they are failing in their duties.

The truth is that a lot of these ajnabi man-Somali women marriages are usually started without parental/familial awareness. By the time the family finds out, she's already in deep and maybe under sixir already.

Exactly


The problem starts with the fathers and families. They are the ones who are truly naive and push this "as long as he's Muslim" narrative. The fathers could stop this dead in their tracks, since there is no marriage without the consent of the wali. And the sad fact of the matter is, they are the prime enablers. When it comes to a Somali male, many of these fathers will grill them on their clan, education, work, etc. but when it comes to any muslim ajnabi it's "as long as he's Muslim".

 

[Aegon]

Fully agree. Parents are at fault. Specially dads. It’s sad because I see these foxes target Somali women as easy targets. They know the family won’t get involved once they have the woman and the woman tend to be too proud to go back to her family and report mistreatment because she don’t want to hear I TOLD YOU SO.

I agree fully. They will say ooh she will do it anyway. Basically the daughter threatens the father and he backs down.

 

[Oday-yar]

Once again, where are the brothers, uncles, cousins and most importantly the damn FATHER.

Wallaahi we have niman with no backbone in our community, how can you let your daughter/ sister / niece go to a different country with a foreign husband.

somali women are notoriously difficult to "control". Pakis and Arabs have a way around disobedient women, it's called "honor killing". We don't. So when xaliimos refuse to listen to their male family members, we choose to let them be instead of savagely murdering them, and this is the result.

 

[Aegon]

somali women are notoriously difficult to "control". Pakis and Arabs have a way around disobedient women, it's called "honor killing". We don't. So when xaliimos refuse to listen to their male family members, we choose to let them be instead of savagely murdering them, and this is the result.

No, it’s just that they are ravaged by Western liberal propaganda, many western somali girls are feminist, pro BLM, want to be independant women and don’t have kids, and a large party of them are ok with marrying out.

 

[Oday-yar]

No, it’s just that they are ravaged by Western liberal propaganda, many western somali girls are feminist, pro BLM, want to be independant women and don’t have kids, and a large party of them are ok with marrying out.

Somali girls are stubborn and difficult to guide and that's the result of having pretty lenient culture. Somali culture isn't strictly patriarchal despite what the feminists say, women have a LOT of freedom. A healthy culture would be somewhere in between, it wouldn't be abusive and controlling, but it also wouldn't allow young impressionable girls to go out in this crazy world and find husbands for themselves. This is called being irresponsible and almost all somali fathers are guilty of it. It's a mistake to let your daughter date any man that you don't know of and in our community this is the norm. Male relatives should be doing background checks and getting to know the dude before they allow it to go any further. Lastly, all this can only be possible if girls were raised and guided from young age by their fathers, to build that trust and love.

 

[Aegon]

Somali girls are stubborn and difficult to guide and that's the result of having pretty lenient culture. Somali culture isn't strictly patriarchal despite what the feminists say, women have a LOT of freedom. A healthy culture would be somewhere in between, it wouldn't be abusive and controlling, but it also wouldn't allow young impressionable girls to go out in this crazy world and find husbands for themselves. This is called being irresponsible and almost all somali fathers are guilty of it. It's a mistake to let your daughter date any man that you don't know of and in our community this is the norm. Male relatives should be doing background checks and getting to know the dude before they allow it to go any further. Lastly, all this can be possible if girls were raised and guided from young age by their fathers, to built that trust and love.

Brother believe me, they don’t care about that, if you try to stop them, they will call you incels and insecure

 

[Kane]

we’re not half the men our grandfathers were, we have lost our masculinity, we calaacal and gossip more than our female counterparts. A man is one who understands the meaning of responsibility, accountability,integrity and not only loyalty and honor.
Before we ask anything of our women how about we raise our standards as men. We are the leaders of our race not our women, we are holding them accountable for our failures and that ain’t manly.

we have all these threads shaming our females for their failures, where are the threads where we discuss how to level up and become the men women desire.

 

[Oday-yar]

Brother believe me, they don’t care about that, if you try to stop them, they will call you incels and insecure

correct! but that's the result of absentee fathers, and fathers who weren't emotionally involved in their daughter's upbringing. I guarantee you girls that were raised by loving fathers listen to their fathers.