somali christian woman.

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I dread to imagine the Somali translation of the Christian version of the story of Lut.

Labadii hablood waxay ku tashadeen inay mid ba dhinac ag seexato aabaheed...:jcoleno:
 
“Genesis 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.”

Bal waxaa eega :ileycry:
 

SuldaanGuled

Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
“Genesis 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.”

Bal waxaa eega :ileycry:

Ileen waa meesha saqajanimada ay ka keenen

Uf calayk deh
 
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Somali atheists are better than Somali Christians. Somali Muslims will always prefer Somali atheists over Somali Christians
 

DuctTape

I have an IQ of 300
you're crazy, i would consider converting. :dead:. its the dark skin and eyes :kanyehmm:.
She is not a bad looking girl by any means but if I saw her in the street I would not give her a second look tbh :manny:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder walaal, a 10 to me might be a 7 to you and vice versa, I am glad that is the case :yacadiim:
Less competition :siilaanyosmile:
 

SuldaanGuled

Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
Somali atheists are better than Somali Christians. Somali Muslims will always prefer Somali atheists over Somali Christians

What an interesting imagination you have, it's simply yaabka yaabkis

At least the christian recognizes and affirms the right of God as being the Creator what convinces you to believe that you're better or that we'll prefer you ??
 
What an interesting imagination you have, it's simply yaabka yaabkis

At least the christian recognizes and affirms the right of God as being the Creator what convinces you to believe that you're better or that we'll prefer you ??
I'm not an atheist, but I prefer them to christian Somalis
 

TooMacaan

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Somali atheists are better than Somali Christians. Somali Muslims will always prefer Somali atheists over Somali Christians
:mjpls:Not if they are true Muslims. These are just a couple verses, according to your Qur'an, regarding "the people of the book":

1. "And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender." S. 29:46

2. "Whether they are the ones who believe (in the Arabian Prophet), or whether they are Jews, Christians or Sabians – all who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do righteous deeds – their reward is surely secure with their Lord; they need have no fear, nor shall they grieve." S. 2:62

What it says about Athiests/non-believers (and their Kibr):

“Were they created by nothing? Or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.” S. 52:35

Although some Muslims may still consider Christians to be infidels for accepting Jesus as God, their Qur'an clearly states positive things about them as well. When it comes to Atheists/pagans though, there is no defense. :mybusiness:

P.s. As to your comment about Atheists being "better", what a ridiculous value judgement. I don't really care if Somali Muslims prefer me over a Somali Atheist or not tbh (my religious status has nothing to do with currying favor from others [and I have no personal problem with Somali Atheists either]...but for some reason it seems like you want to turn it into a competition???).
 
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:mjpls:Not if they are true Muslims. These are just a couple verses, according to your Qur'an, regarding "the people of the book":

1. "And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender." S. 29:46

2. "Whether they are the ones who believe (in the Arabian Prophet), or whether they are Jews, Christians or Sabians – all who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do righteous deeds – their reward is surely secure with their Lord; they need have no fear, nor shall they grieve." S. 2:62

Although some Muslims may still consider Christians to be infidels for accepting Jesus as God, their Qur'an clearly states positive things about them as well. When it comes to Atheists/pagans though, there is no defense. :mybusiness:

P.s. I don't really care if Somali Muslims prefer me over a Somali Atheist or not tbh (my religious status has nothing to do with currying favor from others [and I have no personal problem with Somali Atheists either]...but for some reason it seems like you want to turn it into a competition???).


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we still see y'all as more of traitors than atheists
 

TooMacaan

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we still see y'all as more of traitors than atheists
So then, you admitting to rejecting the scriptures of Allah in order to go with your feelings? Lol. Think about that.
I don't know what's in your heart but you seem awfully invested in denying Christians and putting Atheists on a pedestal...:cosbyhmm:
 
So then, you admitting to rejecting the scriptures of Allah in order to go with your feelings? Lol. Think about that.
I don't know what's in your heart but you seem awfully invested in denying Christians and putting Atheists on a pedestal...:cosbyhmm:
look at it like this: its a marriage, okay? situation 1- say your wife leaves you, you're sad she left. situation two- your wife cheats on you then leaves you and marries the man she cheated on you with. Somali atheists are the ones who left, Somali christens are the ones who cheated than married the person they cheated on you with. See where I'm coming from? Somali atheists will always be more accepted than Somali Christians
 

TooMacaan

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look at it like this: its a marriage, okay? situation 1- say your wife leaves you, you're sad she left. situation two- your wife cheats on you then leaves you and marries the man she cheated on you with. Somali atheists are the ones who left, Somali christens are the ones who cheated than married the person they cheated on you with. See where I'm coming from? Somali atheists will always be more accepted than Somali Christians
But the mindset you are using isn't a Muslim one...I could understand making that analogy if there wasn't already a specific command given to you by your God but that isn't so. The argument you are using is from a purely emotional standpoint...and even worse, you are disregarding Qur'anic scripture in order to give legitimacy to it. As a Muslim, your stance is objectively wrong.
 
But the mindset you are using isn't a Muslim one...I could understand making that analogy if there wasn't already a specific command given to you by your God but that isn't so. The argument you are using is from a purely emotional standpoint...and even worse, you are disregarding Qur'anic scripture in order to give legitimacy to it. As a Muslim, your stance is objectively wrong.
are you mad Somali atheists are preferred over you?
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SuldaanGuled

Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
:mjpls:Not if they are true Muslims. These are just a couple verses, according to your Qur'an, regarding "the people of the book":

1. "And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender." S. 29:46

2. "Whether they are the ones who believe (in the Arabian Prophet), or whether they are Jews, Christians or Sabians – all who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do righteous deeds – their reward is surely secure with their Lord; they need have no fear, nor shall they grieve." S. 2:62

What it says about Athiests/non-believers (and their Kibr):

“Were they created by nothing? Or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.” S. 52:35

Although some Muslims may still consider Christians to be infidels for accepting Jesus as God, their Qur'an clearly states positive things about them as well. When it comes to Atheists/pagans though, there is no defense. :mybusiness:

P.s. As to your comment about them being "better", what a ridiculous value judgement. I don't really care if Somali Muslims prefer me over a Somali Atheist or not tbh (my religious status has nothing to do with currying favor from others [and I have no personal problem with Somali Atheists either]...but for some reason it seems like you want to turn it into a competition???).

I asked you before but you never answered me. Are you somali and christian as well ?

Those verses that you've posted have nothing to do with having a preference or not. In fact there are rules which govern our interactions with non-muslims and how we're supposed to treat them. Islam obligates us to deal justly with everyone be they muslims or not. Islam abrogated all the previous scriptures that's why anyone who doesn't follow the teachings of islam isn't considered to be a muslim.

When people read verses similar to the ones you've posted they don't realise that there were previous nations who used worship Allah as He commanded them to and these nations received revelations from Allah. So anyone who adhered to the His laws and followed them will be rewarded by Allah. When the quran was revealed it negated all other scriptures making quran the only valid revealation from Allah. So the only route to salvation is through the quran not through any other scripture.

1. "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs" . 4:171
 

TooMacaan

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I asked you before but you never answered me. Are you somali and christian as well ?

Those verses that you've posted have nothing to do with having a preference or not. In fact there are rules which govern our interactions with non-muslims and how we're supposed to treat them. Islam obligates us to deal justly with everyone be they muslims or not. Islam abrogated all the previous scriptures that's why anyone who doesn't follow the teachings of islam isn't considered to be a muslim.

When people read verses similar to the ones you've posted they don't realise that there were previous nations who used worship Allah as He commanded them to and these nations received revelations from Allah. So anyone who adhered to the His laws and followed them will be rewarded by Allah. When the quran was revealed it negated all other scriptures making quran the only valid revealation from Allah. So the only route to salvation is through the quran not through any other scripture.

1. "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs" . 4:171
Yes, that's right, I must have not seen your question.

My only point is that Jews/Christians are people of the book and the Qur'an relates to them in a way that it doesn't with other 'gaal'. If you re-read my post, you'll see that I don't judge Somali Athiests and I don't think that I'm somehow inherently "better" than them (the other girl was the one who made that argument, not me). I have two questions for you though...

1. Why is apostasy punishable by death whereas Jews/Christians are made to pay Jizyah if "Islam obligates us to deal justly with everyone be they Muslims or not"??

2. As a Somali Muslim, do you agree with that other poster that Atheists are "better than" and "preferred" over Christians?
 
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