Somali Atheist Political Case
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sxb its not just her most ppl just 'block' u out and live in a bubble, even my psycharist is like that once they believe in their system, even if it dont work, they wont ever look at a better system. They wont even negiotate with u like iftin ma aha keliya her, its in the west also, they turned science into a religion where its untouchable, i can understand dont touch it if u dont have an answer like iftin shud not approach dr osman topic and leave it. But if u do, provide an alternative solution or shut the f*ck up cuz the solution they have now works
Continue doing your good work sxb, don't let these rats bother you.
I don't even talk to them anymore, they are completely away from reality.
@Sharmaarke I meditate u know that? I a lways escape and think to myself what are my 'bubbles' like to tests I am not becoming like Iftin cuz i know once u become like that u heading nowhere. I continously review my biases, prejudices, myths, etc. U gotta detox yourself or else u may miss opportunities in the world becuz u werent ready or were in a bubble thinking the bubble will get u across the line
bubble means waa wax iyaga iska dhisteen ka bacdi la wareegayo to support it. I can convince myself of flat earth and then go around the world and online websites and live in that bubble and then come on somalispot and spread the gospel of flat earth hahahaahahahah. they do the same thing somalis, go websites get bad news for other clans, good news for your clan...A FKN BUBBLE
bubble means waa wax iyaga iska dhisteen ka bacdi la wareegayo to support it. I can convince myself of flat earth and then go around the world and online websites and live in that bubble and then come on somalispot and spread the gospel of flat earth hahahaahahahah. they do the same thing somalis, go websites get bad news for other clans, good news for your clan...A FKN BUBBLE
Dr. Osman your main problem is you are obsessed with white people and their culture, hence you came to the conclusion that the more we follow their principles and values, the more advanced and scientific we become ourselves.
This assumption is completly weird and shows how little you know about Islamic history. Before the arrival of the prophet SCW the Arabs did not have to do anything with education, they did not even have an advanced script for their langauge to begin with. The first verse of the Quran that came down is "Iqra" which is the imperative of "to read". In other words Islam is equivalent with knowledge and orders us to seek knowledge, let it be religious or worldly one. There are more examples in Quran and in the Sunna where Allah and his messenger order the Muslims to learn languages, to study history and to learn from previous civilizations, to study medicine and many more.
Islamic history is evidence enough for you to illustrate how the Arabs were raised from one of the lowest people to the highest in a very short time. They did not only destroy the Persians and significantly weakened the Romans, wo where the super powers of this era, but they also studied the knowledge these people in difference fields, like mathematics, medicine or even Greek philosophy, until the Muslims lead these fields of science for hundreds of years.
Your whole point is based on the fact, that whites became more scientific, as soon as they left christiany. Well this religion where used as a political tool to prevent their followers from education and the christians did not contribute anything to any field of science, unlike the Muslims. Islam is proved to be the only religion that tells their people to study all sciences and made its followers the leading community when it comes to education for more than hundreds of years. Ironically as soon as the Muslims started to become less religious, the more they lost their leading position and where replaced by others.
So miss us with your 1000th thread about how we need to drop Islamic values and have to follow western ones to become more successful. We just need to go back to our roots to once more take over this world.
You said you studied IT ? Well isn't IT the science that works with Algorithm, especially the field of programming ? Every language in IT, let it be the first one 'C' or the later ones like C++, Java, Python, Matlab are all based on algorithms right ? Well guess what, the guy "Algorithm" was actually a Persian orthodox Muslim during the Islamic Khalifa. So without 'Islamists' you couldn't even study IT my friend.
This assumption is completly weird and shows how little you know about Islamic history. Before the arrival of the prophet SCW the Arabs did not have to do anything with education, they did not even have an advanced script for their langauge to begin with. The first verse of the Quran that came down is "Iqra" which is the imperative of "to read". In other words Islam is equivalent with knowledge and orders us to seek knowledge, let it be religious or worldly one. There are more examples in Quran and in the Sunna where Allah and his messenger order the Muslims to learn languages, to study history and to learn from previous civilizations, to study medicine and many more.
Islamic history is evidence enough for you to illustrate how the Arabs were raised from one of the lowest people to the highest in a very short time. They did not only destroy the Persians and significantly weakened the Romans, wo where the super powers of this era, but they also studied the knowledge these people in difference fields, like mathematics, medicine or even Greek philosophy, until the Muslims lead these fields of science for hundreds of years.
Your whole point is based on the fact, that whites became more scientific, as soon as they left christiany. Well this religion where used as a political tool to prevent their followers from education and the christians did not contribute anything to any field of science, unlike the Muslims. Islam is proved to be the only religion that tells their people to study all sciences and made its followers the leading community when it comes to education for more than hundreds of years. Ironically as soon as the Muslims started to become less religious, the more they lost their leading position and where replaced by others.
So miss us with your 1000th thread about how we need to drop Islamic values and have to follow western ones to become more successful. We just need to go back to our roots to once more take over this world.
You said you studied IT ? Well isn't IT the science that works with Algorithm, especially the field of programming ? Every language in IT, let it be the first one 'C' or the later ones like C++, Java, Python, Matlab are all based on algorithms right ? Well guess what, the guy "Algorithm" was actually a Persian orthodox Muslim during the Islamic Khalifa. So without 'Islamists' you couldn't even study IT my friend.
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@Sharmaarke the good news for your clan and bad news for other clan bubble, if it was effective, we would see solutions. Its a bubble dude, things like that is circular reasoning, he starts with my clan is good and then posts new projects for his clan, your clan is bad and then finds a news article of killing. It's garbage its doesnt work, u already decided the outcome of your myth
What scientific advancements are you fighting for?
Plus there is a difference between muslims and Christians. The Christian's where subjugated by the bible they had to believe that the earth was the centre of the universe and that the earth is only 6000 years old.
Galileo had to recant his theory that the sun was at the centre because the Pope and the church would have burned him alive. At that very same time Galileo could.have went to Istanbul and he would have been welcomed
A lot of things which have been debunked scientifically was in the bible and that anyone who even indulged in those things was considered as a heretic and burned at the stake. Therefore for the Christian's to advance they had to get rid of and separate church from the state.
Now if we look at islam, we are encouraged in the quran and by allah to look how the world works and study things in a scientific manner.
A muslim can say the earth is 4 billions years old and it will not contradict the quran. A muslim can say the sun is the centre of our solar system without being a heretic.
Plus there is a difference between muslims and Christians. The Christian's where subjugated by the bible they had to believe that the earth was the centre of the universe and that the earth is only 6000 years old.
Galileo had to recant his theory that the sun was at the centre because the Pope and the church would have burned him alive. At that very same time Galileo could.have went to Istanbul and he would have been welcomed
A lot of things which have been debunked scientifically was in the bible and that anyone who even indulged in those things was considered as a heretic and burned at the stake. Therefore for the Christian's to advance they had to get rid of and separate church from the state.
Now if we look at islam, we are encouraged in the quran and by allah to look how the world works and study things in a scientific manner.
A muslim can say the earth is 4 billions years old and it will not contradict the quran. A muslim can say the sun is the centre of our solar system without being a heretic.
I am an 'cilmani' by Somali definition not spreading 'god' just 'science' basesd society. Infact the god topic is irrelevant in all honesty and the only reason I bring it up is, it's holding our ppl back. Can u answer me why none of their universities produce anything today? I never said Islam didn't have it's golden age and contributed to the world. So did Persia, so did China, so Did Egypt. Knowledge isn't for a society or owned by anyone or any time period. Today that knowledge is in the western world. There is hadith that says go to china for knowledge, they were not muslims? knowledge isn't about what u believe or faith and to even bring it up is ridiculous. So why not adopt scientific system? It even cures tribalism as I can get along with any clan then, but with islam i wont be able too since I dont care what u believe, your angel is on your shoulder, mine is on mine, wat the hell are u doing talking to me about god, its none of ur business after someone reaches adulthood
Your text is wrong on many aspects. At the beginning you ask me why our universities do not produce anything, with you implicating that Islam is the reason for this, just for you later down playing the golden age of Islam, by saying that knowledge has nothing to do with with the beliefs of a society. This is a clear contradiction.
Furthermore what do you mean with scientific system ? Does such a term even exist ? As I stated before, Islam does not prohibit it's followers to excel in science, in fact it orders it's followers to lead it, which is proven in both the Quran and the Sunna.
But what really surprised me again is your lack of knowledge about Islamic history. You claim that somehow a scientific system (whatever that should be) can solve our clan issues, whereas Islam cannot do the same. Guess what, Islam did it already with the Arabs. Before arrival of the prophet SCW Arabs had tribes, subtribes and subclans, who were in constant fights and rivalry for centuries, no different from Somalis today. The Prophet SCW united all Arab tribes in 23 years with the message of Islam, which were the foundation for them to conquer later the persian empire and defeat the romans, just to become the rulers of the world military and after that the leaders of all worldy sciences. So if any system has proven to be effective against tribalism, especially the Somali one, then it is Islam.
@IftiinOfLife roasted him lmaoooo
Well u seem to be at least responding without talking about bantu, zanzibar, and african americans like Somalis love to deflect to so they do not address their inherent failures as society. I will tell you something sonny jim, if Islam cured tribalism, why are Somali at war constantly, after all islam supposebly cured tribalism. That's a load of garbage and not provable. In-fact coastal arab communities got so tired of interior they let them be in their tribal warfare realizing ISLAM CAN'T HELP and till today their exactly the same.
Now put your money where your mouth is. Let's do an experiment, let's shoot a gun in the air and determine what these people die for, no-one goes to a sheikh or imam for advice lol, his essentially unarmed himself and DISEMPOWERED. They are not on the diya system, but on it as a male of a tribe and family networks, DIYA DOESNT COVER ISLAM, MARK MY WORDS. Heaps of muslims of non armed clans can be raped and killed and all they can do is scream 'yaa allah' and guess what no-one ever responds for them.
There is scientific system, it means to be rational, experiment, test, analyze, and ACTUALLY SHOW PEOPLE. A scientific system is like show me the statistic of death of my clan vs yours, show me the statistics of my males in universities and yours, the list continues. Show me your committment level to politics dont just say u r going to do something, show me where u committed to a policy in your god damn sad life and seen it thru. Somalis lack committment, there is no point working if you dont committ to political will. Constitution shows there is no committment, diyaar uma aha weeye in xal la helo. Its like drug addict if he aint committing to rehab, there is no point. Govt are the same hadusan tusin karin committment on the ground and results, its just another leader personal agendas.
sxb our leaders are similar to drug addicts in rehab. one drug addict who committs to change oo dhab ah, he comes out clean, the other one who just goes there to test n try it, dont walk out cured, the one who goes uncommitted but to show himself off that he is doing something, walks out dead. Somali leaders are like that seeking power just for showing off but not committing to anything, they will never leave a legacy or change for us, its wasted 4 years the more u waste imagine that 4 years cud be 100 supply of harvard and yale graduates returning beginning to reform the govt system
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How come im olny seeing this now
i stand with Ditoore as a salafi over a neef daqaya muslim pler, i know Ditoore will be the first in the trenches with us to defend tolka. i can give him wacdi iyo waano while we are firing artillery.
Its crazy what this guy is suggesting. But this is how recent intellectuals will think.How come im olny seeing this now
Allahyow noo Sahaal
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