Siyad Barre’s kacaan lies debunked

[nomand]

when the USC took over xamar, they created a new pairlemtn of 84 MPS and half was given to hawiye. the SNM just left and said f off. the SPM accepted the SDM accepted and SNF did not recognize and still viewed siyad barre as the legitimate government. the SSDF was quite.

 

[Gadhwayne]

when the USC took over xamar, they created a new pairlemtn of 84 MPS and half was given to hawiye. the SNM just left and said f off. the SPM accepted the SDM accepted and SNF did not recognize and still viewed siyad barre as the legitimate government. the SSDF was quite.

Don't blame the whole USC. The understanding between SMM and USC was to install patriotic libetaration war veterans like Caydiid from the great Sacad of HG and Cabdirixmaan Tuur from the might HY of ReerShiiekhIsxaaq. Then a bunch of Ximaars installed proFuqush Cali Mahdi who was just a city party boy from Harti Abgaal. They did this just as HG and Xawaadle were at the gates of Muqdisho to bring liberation to the city after defeating proAfweyne Jabarti militias from Mudug to Benaadir while SNM was dealing with bulk of the SNA/FUqush in the north. Blame that fake parliament on the civilian, docile wing of USC that lived comfortably under Afweyne till he was about to be driven out

 

[Gadhwayne]

I have some thoughts but my knowledge is very limited here so I put it in a spoiler, as I don't want to be obtrusive.... but I think I have an original point of view so I did write my thoughts

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Afweyne started out as POLICE/spy for Fascisr regime. No military experience till AFTER 1960 then went to military school but kept the high police rank he achieved as a loyal police officer of Italy when he transferred to military. Normally one joins the military without ANY consideration for past police experience. Heck you could go from one military branch to another and start at lowest rank. Go from Army Lt Col to Marines 2nd Lt or vice versa.
Anyways Afweyne figuritively and litteraly started poisoning he well during campain against SSDF. He did a numbet on Cumar Maxamuud.
Then he ordered the campain against the whole Isaaq and took things to a new level. Genocide.
He finally bit off more than he could chew. The idiot used government power to intervene in a lowlevel clan disputes between HG and MX then things escalated as clans were abandoning the SNA concentrated in the north for the Isaaq genocide involving WHITE Rhodesian and White Apartheid South African pilots. HG-MX thing blows up into USC liberation war from Mudug to Muqdisho then Afweyne suddenly loses vital foreign aid. Result was Cabdicasiis Cali Barre ran away from the North and USC liberated Muqdisho but things went downhill after that
Can we say using foreign antiMuslim mercenaries is apostasy? How about talking about praying to Jesus with a DC semireligious cult that could lobby for Deeq Maraykan, foreign aid
Let me say I believe Afweyne was muslim. Im not into takfiiri talk

 

[Exodus]

Siad Barre was the greatest leader Somalia ever had, AUN to him.

 

[Awdalia Rising]

So he was a failure just like his nephew Failmucho?

 

[Céleste]

AUN a great leader.

 

[Younes Osman]

The same people who overthrew Siad barre were completely unable to create a functioning government for 30 years.
If siyaad was so bad why didn't anyone achieve even 1/10 of the stability of the kacaan era govt?.
The guy left power in 1991, the rest of anti siad somalia had 30 years to get their shit together and they couldn't
These are the simple facts.
1969-1990 21 years of siyaad barre with a stable government recognised by the rest of the world.

1990-2019 29 years of anarchy, civil war, terrorism and a country which is considered the joke of the world a synonym of failed state and a playground for arabs, yankees, ethios, Kenyans , Ugandans etc.

These are the facts .

Habar gidir and abgal were fighting over a kursi.

 

[Gadhwayne]

The same people who overthrew Siad barre were completely unable to create a functioning government for 30 years.
If siyaad was so bad why didn't anyone achieve even 1/10 of the stability of the kacaan era govt?.
The guy left power in 1991, the rest of anti siad somalia had 30 years to get their shit together and they couldn't
These are the simple facts.
1969-1990 21 years of siyaad barre with a stable government recognised by the rest of the world.

1990-2019 29 years of anarchy, civil war, terrorism and a country which is considered the joke of the world a synonym of failed state and a playground for arabs, yankees, ethios, Kenyans , Ugandans etc.

These are the facts .

Did you forget what Afwene did to CumarMaxamuud in northernMudug? And more...

Afweyne was great if you're a fuqush tribalist maybe also if you're urban Benaadir inhabiting Abgaal without DAMIIR and tolnimo. Those docile billaa tolnimo billaa damiir Abgaal Xamarawiis like Cali Mahdi could no longer benefit from doing nothing while Afweyne brutalized the nation and HAG.

The nigga got involved in a petty nomad clan dispute between MX and HG. Why? Jabarti nationalism. Relations between MX and HG much better now.

He tried to settle OG refugees on Xawaadle and Isaaq deegaans. refugee guests were gonns have more and better rights than native clans. Now Xawaadle and Isaaq have evicted the ungrateful guests.

Whenevet you hear HG took over some farmland in Shabeelle area, remember Afweyne settle fuqush newcomer clans there first and HG expropriated those illgotten gains.

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Here are a few queries about the situation after Afweyne and during Afweyne regime

Life expectancy

Colleges/universities schools in general

Hospitals

Electricity and phones

Fot the north there was much more violence, more land mines, criminality etc

For Majeerteeniya: AFWEYNE had Eelay and maybe baantuus raping Cumar Maxamuud while poisoning wells in northern Mudug. No more of that shit. PL will likely end becoming the one of most properous Afrikan states if they continue to avoid the disasterous financial policy of SL and switch to more sound financial policies.