Siyad Barre’s kacaan lies debunked

Siyaad barre aun.

He tried to teach a nation to fish, yet the same nation thought they could do a better job kk.

Look how that's going
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Its ridiculous how people do historical revisionism. Siad Barre didnt seize the power in the coup Siad was like flora in 1969 wuxuu qabtay baa iska yar. The coup was masterminded and executed by Salaad Kabeyre Kediye and in that coup Supreme Revolutionary Counsil(military) seized power, and it was this body that chose Siad Barre as its head, because he was the highest ranking official in the army. Wax kale uu qabtay ma jirin.

Siad Barre wouldve never thought of a peaceful coup odayka believed in brutal force and thought diplomacy was for the weak. Evidence A: How he responded to the rebels, few bandits in duurka causing trouble. Instead of alienating them from their communities and clan he responds with brutal force on innocent civilians. Giving the rebels all the support they needed from their communities and clans.

Siad didnt have real power until 1972 when he executed general Caynaanshe and General Kabeyre. From 1969 to 1972 Supreme Revolutionary Counsil was the highest authority in Somalia. MSB turned this one party communist system into one man personal cult.
 
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Dharbash

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Isn’t that bhlub guy the same guy on twitter that said the darood are a minority and are only about 20% or something similar to that number? Sorry but I can’t take him seriously, he also spreads hate speech. I can bet you that tweet is somaliland funded propaganda targeted to make Somalia’s golden years look bad.
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Dharbash

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MARQUESS OF SSC
Even if he hates a particular clan, because he incorrectly conflates Daarood with Siyad Barre, he is not wrong in his assertion that the kacaan was a despotic propaganda machine.

Just to confirm my suspicions, you are from Siyad's clan, yes?

Him attacking a political moment in Somalia’s history for simply being of a darood background in itself is wrong and unprofessional, honestly I can’t take him seriously after that, or atleast I’ll have to look into everything he says.

My clan background doesn’t have anything to do with my opinions, I’m against clans in general and wish Somalis all dropped that bs and no I’m not from his clan.

Lol so because of someone’s clan we’re assuming people should have a specific opinion on matters?
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Som

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The same people who overthrew Siad barre were completely unable to create a functioning government for 30 years.
If siyaad was so bad why didn't anyone achieve even 1/10 of the stability of the kacaan era govt?.
The guy left power in 1991, the rest of anti siad somalia had 30 years to get their shit together and they couldn't
These are the simple facts.
1969-1990 21 years of siyaad barre with a stable government recognised by the rest of the world.

1990-2019 29 years of anarchy, civil war, terrorism and a country which is considered the joke of the world a synonym of failed state and a playground for arabs, yankees, ethios, Kenyans , Ugandans etc.

These are the facts .
 

Som

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@Dharbash

Siyad Barre is not attacked because he was "daarood" but because he was a bully and a dictator who plunged the country into tribal warfare.

USC and SNM both recruited or tried to recruit former Kacaan era politicians who happen to be hawiye or isaaq.
Why did USC ask Hassan Kulmiye Afrah( number 2 of the kacaan regime) to join them? It's pretty obvious they weren't against the regime, this wasn't a political thing but a purely tribalist rebellion.
If the opposition was seriously against siad politically they would have started a new government after kicking him out but instead they started butchering random daroods and kill each other
 

Som

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What is a fact? The dictator created the conditions which caused the civil war. Somalia was on the NATO hit list for further destabilisation, this is no secret.

None of this indicates that he was a competent leader.

Siad died in 1995 and left somalia in the early 90s.
Even if he had a part in creating the condition that caused the civil war he has almost no responsibility for what happened in the last 30 years.
Siad never forced HG and Abgaal to kill each other instead of forming a government
 

Som

VIP
Siyad Barre and the warlords are as bad as each other.

Hence why I do not praise any leader afyer 1969 unless sparingly

Warlords created nothing.
Siyaad at least did some positive stuff so Siyad is better than the warlords.
We can criticize him but to say he was like Aidid or Ali Mahdi isn't correct
 
Warlords created nothing.
Siyaad at least did some positive stuff so Siyad is better than the warlords.
We can criticize him but to say he was like Aidid or Ali Mahdi isn't correct


You cannot tell people how to feel about people.

Siyad imprisoned and murdered my family so yeah, Caydiid, Siyad. No difference to me
 

Som

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You cannot tell people how to feel about people.

Siyad imprisoned and murdered my family so yeah, Caydiid, Siyad. No difference to me

I'm sorry for what happened to your family, AUN to all who were killed unjustly.
I have people in my family kicked out of their homes or killed just because the were darood.
Was siyaad brutal? Yes
Was aidid brutal? Yes
But siyaad at least ruled a stable country for 20 years that's my point
 
Warlords created nothing.
Siyaad at least did some positive stuff so Siyad is better than the warlords.
We can criticize him but to say he was like Aidid or Ali Mahdi isn't correct
@Som Post more on this forum, your explanation is interesting.
 
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