Sister might be marrying madhibaan

Taliso

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Your poor sister will be ostracized in the Somali community, she will fall into depression, I hope she rethinks about her decision, I've nothing against the madhiban people. I think they're the coolest people in the Somali community but I don't want to be ostracized, I want my family to take care of my kids. Please talk to your sister. She's making the biggest mistake in her life.
 
Your poor sister will be ostracized in the Somali community, she will fall into depression, I hope she rethinks about her decision, I've nothing against the madhiban people. I think they're the coolest people in the Somali community but I don't want to be ostracized, I want my family to take care of my kids. Please talk to your sister. She's making the biggest mistake in her life.
Hypothetically speaking would people care for qabil in the west in 30-40years?
 
Your poor sister will be ostracized in the Somali community, she will fall into depression, I hope she rethinks about her decision, I've nothing against the madhiban people. I think they're the coolest people in the Somali community but I don't want to be ostracized, I want my family to take care of my kids. Please talk to your sister. She's making the biggest mistake in her life.

Ah, Somali's make so much sense.

Let's not ostracize the family that has a gangbanger/criminal family member that's locked up in prison, but let's go ahead and target normal upstanding citizens because of their Qaabil.
 
Ah, Somali's make so much sense.

Let's not ostracize the family that has a gangbanger/criminal family member that's locked up in prison, but let's go ahead and target normal upstanding citizens because of their Qaabil.
Shit is so backwards and I would never ostracize my sister and neither would any of my siblings
 

Taliso

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Ah, Somali's make so much sense.

Let's not ostracize the family that has a gangbanger/criminal family member that's locked up in prison, but let's go ahead and target normal upstanding citizens because of their Qaabil.
Blame our forefathers. It's always Somali men's fault. :mjdontkno:
 

Juke

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I’m so confused are madhibaan people not somali? What’s the issue then? Also Islamically your father can’t refuse them getting married for no just reason, and not liking someone’s Qabil is not a just reason. Tell him that
That's not true, hadith says otherwise. Lineage is one of the 4 legitimate criterion Mohamed mentioned.

Tell us outstanding, Yahya, from the servants of God, told me Said ibn Abi Said from his father, from Abu Hurayrah , may Allah be pleased with him from the Prophet peace be upon him , said "Women for four Tnkh for her wealth, her lineage and her beauty and her religion, Choose the one with the same religion raised your hands . "

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A woman is married for four things, ie, her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers.

Sahih al-Bukhari 5090
 

Psychologist

Changemaker
She would be discriminated against when with Somalis, but as long as she lives in the west, I don't think the situation will be that bad. What is her qabil?
 

Psychologist

Changemaker
Because of an old myth. Hawiye had two sons. They ate dead meat/pig to survive a journey. Once they returned one of them threw up and never ate it again. The other didn’t and continued to.

I’ve heard this from many people from different backgrounds. They all accuse Madhibaans of having an unislamic heritage
i thought he couldn't throw up.
 
That's not true, hadith says otherwise. Lineage is one of the 4 legitimate criterion Mohamed mentioned.
The prophet SWS here is telling you that people choose their spouse for their wealth, family status or beauty, but in the end you should choose your wife for her deen. He listed some reasons and said that piety comes before anything else.

"The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A woman is married for four things, i.e., her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers"
 

Juke

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The prophet SWS here is telling you that people choose their spouse for their wealth, family status or beauty, but in the end you should choose your wife for her deen. He listed some reasons and said that piety comes before anything else.

"The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A woman is married for four things, i.e., her wealth, her family status, her beauty and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman (otherwise) you will be a losers"

Interesting interpretation.

I understood it as piety supersedes the other 3 as the most important criterion, however that doesn't discard the other 3 as criteria once past the chief benchmark. i.e. marrying a person with Piety + any combination of the other 3 > Piety.
 

AbrahamFreedom

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There's no way the Somali community in the US still cares about this or will shun the couple, especially when there are Somalis marrying ajnabis there and since there are many Madhibaans there.
 
My sister might be getting married soon to a madibaan and I personally don’t have anything against and my mom knows about it but my dad will freak out when he finds out. It makes me kinda sad because it’s supposed to be a joyous time and event but I feel like it’s gonna be overshadowed by qabil. Any advice people or insight ?
i hope they have happy, long and prosperous marriage iA. Tell your dad to butt out or else he will see immediate karma. So many stories of parents denying good marriages based on qabil only for their poor kids to end up 10 times worst off and these parents learn their lesson little too late 🙏🏽
 

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