Should Ogaden be merged with Jubaland if Ethiopia collapses?

[Parailia somalensis]

I truly hope the Ethiopian government doesn't collapse due to ethnic tensions. Ethiopia is the only thread holding the entire Horn African region together. Islamic extremism and total chaos will envelope the Horn if Ethiopia is out of the picture. As the majority sub-clan in the region, we would have to join our brothers in Jubaland if Ethiopia collapses. The rest of the minorities will get along or will be booted out to their respective federal member states.

 

[Marquis]

create your own country, we don't want your kind in Somalia.

 

[Parailia somalensis]

create your own country, we don't want your kind in Somalia.

We already rule the fertile soils of Jubaland and will be vying for the PM seat in Mogadishu soon enough. OG are landhere.

 

[Liltop]

create your own country, we don't want your kind in Somalia.

Interesting coming from a Hawiye Go blow up Xamar or sum.

What do Jubbaland affairs even have to do with Abgaal huţùs?

 

[Bashi]

Create your own federal state and leave Jubbaland to its rightful owners.

 

[Parailia somalensis]

Create your own federal state and leave Jubbaland to its rightful owners.

Harti and Marehan will be displaced from Jubaland soon enough.

 

[Gadhwayne]

Yes. Ogaadeenita can go with JL. The Hawd and Reserved areas can go with SL and Sitti can go with DJ. I would be worried about the collapse if Etiopiya collapses there could be more regional wars from Jabuuti and Eritrea to Mooyaale

@xabashi

The best option would probably be article 39 for the peripheral kilila like Canfar and Soomali kilil followed by non triibal genuine federalism for the central regions

 

[Parailia somalensis]

Yes. Ogaadeenita can go with JL. The Hawd and Reserved areas can go with SL and Sitti can go with DJ. I would be worried about the collapse if Etiopiya collapses there could be more regional wars from Jabuuti and Eritrea to Mooyaale

@xabashi

The best option would probably be article 39 for the peripheral kilila like Canfar and Soomali kilil followed by non triibal genuine federalism for the central regions

The land won't be divided. Your sub-clan and the others will move out and join your respective federal member states. Not one metre of Ogaden land will be given away to foreigners.

 

[Gadhwayne]

The land won't be divided. Your sub-clan and the others will move out and join your respective federal member states. Not one metre of Ogaden land will be given away to foreigners.

@amboli
Ater AddisAbaba pulls out of kilil 5 I would put my money on Ciise and Isaaq annexing their zonrs plus some buffer zones but why why are we arguing 9ver whether the Hawd andReserved areas join the North's Somaaliland Republuc or South's FGS maamul of JL? lets wait till article 39 is invoked then we can see if the Hawd becomes part of the South or the North

 

[Liltop]

The land won't be divided. Your sub-clan and the others will move out and join your respective federal member states. Not one metre of Ogaden land will be given away to foreigners.

Eviction notice miya?

 

[Rivaldo]

Ogaden will be its own nation.

 

[Parailia somalensis]

@amboli
Ater AddisAbaba pulls out of kilil 5 I would put my money on Ciise and Isaaq annexing their zonrs plus some buffer zones but why why are we arguing 9ver whether the Hawd andReserved areas join the North's Somaaliland Republuc or South's FGS maamul of JL? lets wait till article 39 is invoked then we can see if the Hawd becomes part of the South or the North

You wouldn't be able to handle Ogaden armed forces. An Ogaden pact with Puntland would ensure you lose the little land that you control.

 

[Shmurda]

You wouldn't be able to handle Ogaden armed forces. An Ogaden pact with Puntland would ensure you lose the little land that you control.

Harti and Marehan will be displaced from Jubaland soon enough.

Your on your own in this one buddy

 

[amboli]

@amboli
Ater AddisAbaba pulls out of kilil 5 I would put my money on Ciise and Isaaq annexing their zonrs plus some buffer zones but why why are we arguing 9ver whether the Hawd andReserved areas join the North's Somaaliland Republuc or South's FGS maamul of JL? lets wait till article 39 is invoked then we can see if the Hawd becomes part of the South or the North

Most likely that's what would happen. We would take our dir part of Ddsii and Isaaq would annex their hawd. The rest will probably join Somalia and turn to terrorism and using foreigners on eachother

 

[Abaadir]

I truly hope the Ethiopian government doesn't collapse due to ethnic tensions. Ethiopia is the only thread holding the entire Horn African region together. Islamic extremism and total chaos will envelope the Horn if Ethiopia is out of the picture. As the majority sub-clan in the region, we would have to join our brothers in Jubaland if Ethiopia collapses. The rest of the minorities will get along or will be booted out to their respective federal member states.

Ethiopia will never collapse only change hands you will always be a slave to Ethiopians till the arrival of the Mahdi

 

[Parailia somalensis]

Ethiopia will never collapse only change hands you will always be a slave to Ethiopians till the arrival of the Mahdi

Marehan are already slaves within Somalia( GEDO & GALMUDUG) and in the Somali peninsula. Even your own president has abandoned you to the wolves. The man spent 3 nights in HG territory and hasn't even touched the holy soils of Gedo.

 

[xabashi]

Yes. Ogaadeenita can go with JL. The Hawd and Reserved areas can go with SL and Sitti can go with DJ. I would be worried about the collapse if Etiopiya collapses there could be more regional wars from Jabuuti and Eritrea to Mooyaale

@xabashi

The best option would probably be article 39 for the peripheral kilila like Canfar and Soomali kilil followed by non triibal genuine federalism for the central regions

I am not from that area and I think the people who live there should decide since they are the most affected by any decision and know what is better for them. I only wish them good luck and a happy and peaceful life!

 

[GEEL-XAABSADE]

I am from there so it is only fitting I add my two cents. In this hypothetical world where we are free it would be stupid to join anyone. Somali people are so quick to make stupid decisions. We have seen how stupid the north south union turned out. Somalis need to talk and discuss honestly and fairly what they want and what they are willing to give. Can you imagine finally becoming free from Ethiopia and join Somalia only to find their soldiers all over Somalia thanks to stupid politicians?

 

[Zayn]

Marehan are already slaves within Somalia( GEDO & GALMUDUG) and in the Somali peninsula. Even your own president has abandoned you to the wolves. The man spent 3 nights in HG territory and hasn't even touched the holy soils of Gedo.

Marehan aren't slaves. Nacas Farmaajo is not part of the Beesha Barakeysan. He has disgraced the holy lands of Gedo. We have given to the Murusade he is one of them now

 

[Ras]

An independent Galbeed would more likely join Somaliland if it doesn't go at it alone.

Jubaland can't secede from Somalia and I doubt Jijiga would want to be ruled by Xamar.

Most the Galbeed population lives near the hawd and it would make more sense logistically since Kismayo is over a thousand miles away from Jijiga.