Shiekh puts an immodest sudanese woman in her place

[Halimak]

There is a reason why the testimony of two women is equal to one man in islam you women tend to put yourselves in bad situation and blame others.

Make up, showing the feet, thick eyelashes you wouldn't class these as indicators of potential harassment but they clearly are.

Women always exaggerate situations, there are peverted men around but that is a very small minority and those cases like i mentioned are minimal.

With regard to the phrase, “that if one of them (two women) errs”, Ibn Katheer said: “This means, the two women, if one of them forgets the testimony, then ‘the other can remind her’, i.e., she can remind her about the matter concerning which testimony is being given.” (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, part 1, p. 724)

Allaah has commanded the testimony of two women so as to be sure that they remember, because the mind and memory of two women takes the place of the mind and memory of one man. (See I’laam al-Muwaqqa’een, part 1, p. 75).

Right now, you're resorting to ad hominem and arguments that have nothing to do with the topic as a way to divert key points.
Your sexism is showing, saying things like women put themselves in xyz position isn't going to change the fact that harassment against females of ALL ages is common. I've been harassed whilst wearing no makeup and so have countless of women I know so what now?

Also, using that particular hadith in a way to suggest that most women lie about their experiences is disingenuous and above all disgusting. Fear Allah.

Also, its very telling how you gave me qashin for saying that Islamically men have to lower their gaze. Even if a woman is dressed immodestly, it is haraam for you to harass her. If you try to argue with me over this, then clearly you're also the type that not only twists things but also picks and chooses.

 

[TekNiKo]

There is a reason why the testimony of two women is equal to one man in islam you women tend to put yourselves in bad situation and blame others.

Make up, showing the feet, thick eyelashes you wouldn't class these as indicators of potential harassment but they clearly are.

Women always exaggerate situations, there are peverted men around but that is a very small minority and those cases like i mentioned are minimal.

With regard to the phrase, “that if one of them (two women) errs”, Ibn Katheer said: “This means, the two women, if one of them forgets the testimony, then ‘the other can remind her’, i.e., she can remind her about the matter concerning which testimony is being given.” (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, part 1, p. 724)

Allaah has commanded the testimony of two women so as to be sure that they remember, because the mind and memory of two women takes the place of the mind and memory of one man. (See I’laam al-Muwaqqa’een, part 1, p. 75).

Exactly, in Somalia I never seen a Niqabi women get harassed it is very rare and so uncommon.

 

[Halimak]

Exactly, in Somalia I never seen a Niqabi women get harassed it is very rare and so uncommon.

But I bet you've seen jilbabis get harassed?

But let me guess, its there fault for showing their faces?

 

[TekNiKo]

But I bet you've seen jilbabis get harassed?

But let me guess, its there fault for showing their faces?

Yes, some scholars argue that if a women is stunningly beautiful she must cover her face for it is a fitnah for men. Especially if she uses makeup.

 

[Shmurda]

But I bet you've seen jilbabis get harassed?

But let me guess, its there fault for showing their faces?

If you are very beautiful it is mandatory to cover your face so you don't cause fitnah

 

[Halimak]

Yes, some scholars argue that if a women is stunningly beautiful she must cover her face for it is a fitnah for men. Especially if she uses makeup.

Islamically, a woman does not have to wear a niqab. But guess what a man MUST lower his gaze and it is even worse for him to harass her.

So the fact that you are blaming a woman that is covered from head to toe, but not a man who is doing something is considered undisputedly haraam in which all Scholars are in agreement, tells me everything I need to know about you.

 

[Octavian]

If you are very beautiful it is mandatory to cover your face so you don't cause fitnah

why punish her for what god gave her

 

[AishaBarri]

Yes, some scholars argue that if a women is stunningly beautiful she must cover her face for it is a fitnah for men. Especially if she uses makeup.

Some of you guys really want us to disappear...

 

[Halimak]

There is a reason why the testimony of two women is equal to one man in islam you women tend to put yourselves in bad situation and blame others.

Make up, showing the feet, thick eyelashes you wouldn't class these as indicators of potential harassment but they clearly are.

Women always exaggerate situations, there are peverted men around but that is a very small minority and those cases like i mentioned are minimal.

With regard to the phrase, “that if one of them (two women) errs”, Ibn Katheer said: “This means, the two women, if one of them forgets the testimony, then ‘the other can remind her’, i.e., she can remind her about the matter concerning which testimony is being given.” (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, part 1, p. 724)

Allaah has commanded the testimony of two women so as to be sure that they remember, because the mind and memory of two women takes the place of the mind and memory of one man. (See I’laam al-Muwaqqa’een, part 1, p. 75).

I know that the testimony of two women are equal to that of one man in certain areas, but where did you get the fatwa that reason is due to women being in bad situations?

Why are you making stuff up? Where did you get this daleel for that being the reasoning?

Subhanallah.

 

[Shmurda]

why punish her for what god gave her

So niqab is punishment now? Fear Allah akhi

 

[Octavian]

So niqab is punishment now? Fear Allah akhi

Yes niggas are gonna assumed to be apart of the al uselss crew and be either gunned or stoned to death

 

[TekNiKo]

Islamically, a woman does not have to wear a niqab. But guess what a man MUST lower his gaze and it is even worse for him to harass her.

So the fact that you are blaming a woman that is covered from head to toe, but not a man who is doing something is considered undisputedly haraam in which all Scholars are in agreement, tells me everything I need to know about you.

Yes a man must lower His gaze no one denies this but the woman also takes the blame. And Yes according to Imaam shaafici covering face is waajib. Other madhabs say it is sunnah though. I am a shaaficist

 

[Octavian]

also its a bit over kill cover the hair not the hole thing im sure it must weird cosplaying like your'e husbands shadow at all times

 

[Halimak]

Yes a man must lower His gaze no one denies this but the woman also takes the blame. And Yes according to Imaam shaafici covering face is waajib. Other madhabs say it is sunnah though. I am a shaaficist

The majority of the madhabs are of the opinion that a woman doesn't have to so as a man you cannot blame a woman for showing her face and a man harassing her.

Not everyone is Shafi. Unless you want to sit here and say that other madhabs are wrong?

So move on you nacaas.

 

[المهندس]

I know that the testimony of two women are equal to that of one man in certain areas, but where did you get the fatwa that reason is due to women being in bad situations?

Why are you making stuff up? Where did you get this daleel for that being the reasoning?

Subhanallah.

Whos making stuff up you just didn't understand my point.

In certain areas lol ? no this encompasses everything if you claim harassment you need another female witness.

Im talking in a general sense you would claim harassment if a man tried chatting to you yet you would be dressed in a seductive manner, furthermore you would probably be looking at him with diluted pupils wheres the logic.

Another instance free-mixing with men whether its career or education is not allowed but you women would happlily talk to your "colleague or fellow student" then when he moves to you, you will be baffled even though you seduced with your voice or your clothes or whatever

Women are awrah

Why do you women act like you don't have desires and you don't instigate?

 

[Juke]

Why are some men so dense? Just because someone is dressed immodestly according to you doesn’t mean they deserve harassment. Are we animals. Let’s learn some self control and act more civilized

Also did anyone catch how the sheikh was laughing at the lady in the last few seconds? Disgusting

The hypocrisy

Women dress provocatively for male attention. When they get it, they complain.

And Women will also cry when no men are checking her out/giving her attention.

 

[TekNiKo]

@Halimak Men and women will never be equal, it is why there is no female Prophet, equality, that is a Western myth here is a Sahih hadith which explains this very fact. I wonder how you will reject this one which is very clear.

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301

 

[AishaBarri]

The hypocrisy

Women dress provocatively for male attention. When they get it, they complain.

And Women will also cry when no men are checking her out/giving her attention.

I’m talking about self control not attention. Btw no one is out here trying to get attention from dusty bums

 

[Juke]

I’m talking about self control not attention. Btw no one is out here trying to get attention from dusty bums

So the problem is getting attention from dudes below your standard huh

 

[TekNiKo]

@Dawo @KobeBryant watch her try to wiggle way het way out of that hadith its tough being a feminist Muslima it is an oxymoron