Yet all of Al Shabab leaders are Isaaq and Dir, who have ruled you for the past 15 years.
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On one hand we have an organisation with a 6 months of absolutely clean track record and rule of law and achievements unthinkable in the South. Locals biggest critisism of the ICU was the ban on Jaad imports and the ban of charchoal export.
On the other hand we have Ethiopia(with a track record of funding jabhads and inciting instability in Somalia) and it's partners, the very same warlord's that were behind most of the crimes and massacres for over a decade and half, the same warlords that were responsible for the general instability in Somalia.
I can see that the objective conclusion to make is support the warlords.
Your souce is a book written in 2011 by an American journalist to justify the American backed invasion. Who is to say that most of those men were not radicalised to that extent by the gaal invasion of their homeland?
ICU MIGHT have succumbed to Shabaab, is not a good argument to support the invasion, specially considering that we all knew what the warlords stood for.
Once again you keep ignoring the salient points we're trying to get across.
1. ICU wanted to control all of Somalia by force, they claimed they would march on Garowe, even the "moderates" were in support of this.
2. Near the end of their tenure, Al-Shabab/extremist entities were infiltrating the top command and courts.
3. ICU proclaimed to the world that they would march on Addis, and have the whole of Somalia under a Shariah state, what genius does this, knowing the political climate at the time? (war on terror campaign), good intentioned or not, you know the West was on a hunt to kill mode when it came to Islamic run states.
4. The warlords backed by the CIA/Ethiopia were Hawiye, and their base of operations was in the South, it wasn't Puntland/Somaliland that went through isbhaaro wars.
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"Ethiopia(with a track record of funding jabhads and inciting instability in Somalia)"
How many times do I have to keep repeating this? It was Hawiye that willingly took arms and funds from Ethiopia/CIA to incite instability in their regions, it was you who was engaging in isbhaaro wars.
Oh, and btw:
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"Unthinkable in the South"
It's like you're almost there, ZERO self-awareness.
Beats Isaaq owning your ass for 17 years and counting.Yet most of Al Shabab leaders are Isaaq and ruled you for the past 15 years.
You first said AS were stronger than ICU and then when proved wrong claimed tribal militia as reps of HAWIYE/ICU when corrected again went for the best exit which is a lame (self prescribed) joke.
ICU instilled the fear of god in your kind to the point of running to Xabesha for sanctuary. And the funniest thing is MJ reaping all the rewards. Stateless Khastumos like you have no bone in this fight. Be it ICU or SNM or SSDF waxad tahay adoon la haysta.
End of the day, Dhulbahante militias control my lands. Not Isaaq. How can you insult someone else when AMISOM and Al Shabab control your lands? Go and fight them yourself. If foreign forces withdrew from Somalia, everything south of gaalkacyo would fall under Al Shabab within a month.
Or how about, instead of acting like uncivilised savages, we respect one another and build a government found on a shared consensus for all Somalis? Let's say ICU were successful in capitulating the North, you understand it would have ended all the same, right? ICU, like Barre, would have abandoned Xamar after their failed attempt of another civil war.
If there is any Somali out there, who genuinely believes that his respective clan, whether Darood, Hawiye or Isaaq, can pacify all the clans, capturing Xamar, Kismayo, Bossaso all the way to Berbera by using sheer force, then I'm sorry to tell you sxb, you're apart of the 68 demographic.
They insult AY by saying he brought in Ethiopians to fight against the military wing of ICU, which were Al Shabab.
Meanwhile, AMISOM is fighting against Al Shabab today and is the only thing stopping them from retaking their lands. Why doesn’t HSM withdraw all foreign forces then?
It makes no sense whatsoever. How dare you bring gaal to fight khawarij, but we will use gaal to fight khawarij.
Meanwhile, AMISOM is fighting against Al Shabab today and is the only thing stopping them from retaking their lands. Why doesn’t HSM withdraw all foreign forces then?
It makes no sense whatsoever. How dare you bring gaal to fight khawarij, but we will use gaal to fight khawarij.
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Wariya why you on the nuts of a dead guy who’s burning. Couldn’t even live in his own lands, exiled and begging in Yemen. Allah is not kind to those who fight mujahids. Lacnada allah baa kudacdey.
AY didn’t fight Shabaab, he fought the ICU. Iska soco. You’ve exposed yourself in this thread from the start you low iq doqon
Military wing of ICU: Al Shabab
Head of shura council of ICU: Al Shabab until 2013
Secretary General, executive branch of ICU: Al Shabab
Education secretary: Al Shabab
Head off Mogadishu security: Al Shabab
Top two defence posts: Al Shabab
bidenkulaha
GalYare
You’ve already shitted over this thread spreading debunked lies, back to square one claiming ICU was controlled by Shabaab.
He is a free man, his people are bashaaling, no terrorist attacks or bombs are being lobbed his way, HAG FKD is just sad at this point, sxb, you're a AMISON colony, ilaahi kabaq.
They insult AY by saying he brought in Ethiopians to fight against the military wing of ICU, which were Al Shabab.
Meanwhile, AMISOM is fighting against Al Shabab today and is the only thing stopping them from retaking their lands. Why doesn’t HSM withdraw all foreign forces then?
It makes no sense whatsoever. How dare you bring gaal to fight khawarij, but we will use gaal to fight khawarij.
The most insane part about all this, is the fact that they were the ones who terrorised their own people in Xamar on the behalf of Ethiopia/CIA. They boast about expelling the Americans from Xamar, when it was their leaders who co-signed the American invasion in the first place, and gave them the green light to set up base in Mogadishu.
Are you saying AY supported the invasion because he felt that the ICU was a threat to his qabiil project? Support him for your personal gain kuuma diidani, but you gotta accept that you support being Ethiopian dabodhilif. Then you gotta also stop pushing this xaar that he was a national hero when he was only a "puntite hero". While to most he was spineless traitor, who wouldve sold his soul just to sit in Villa Somalia. He himself said that he was a failure but your qabiil pride can't take it.
Maskiinka is making ad hominems and strawmen that he is mercilesly whooping. But alas their weak arguments have been utterly debunked. Exitting this thread now.
HAG members blaming AY AUN to wage war against them and they forget they start it with Alitaxaad that lead by Aweys in PL and ICU war in mudug.
As they say my enemy enemy is my friend. We will not let HAG drag us in this shithole forever.
As they say my enemy enemy is my friend. We will not let HAG drag us in this shithole forever.
woke, I was getting along fine with hutus, even want to buy a donkey now
we are enemies from now on, after all donkey deserves to be karbashed as he will always kick you the dameer no matter how kind you are to it
warya i am only pulling your tail, i mean leg, you know your my favourite Hutu dameer after Biden
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
VIP
The learned haggastanis wiped the floor with these pro Ethiopian dhabodilifs ,
I cant count how many times these clowns changed the goal post .
Good job @Rationale @Kan'an
Btw @Chase you choose an intresting name , my son favourite t.v show is paw patrol and his favourite character is Chase .
I cant count how many times these clowns changed the goal post .
Good job @Rationale @Kan'an
Btw @Chase you choose an intresting name , my son favourite t.v show is paw patrol and his favourite character is Chase .
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Kk it’s been a hot couple days. Let’s have calmer heads prevail
woke is abgaal right?
woke you dont have manenrs like Bidenkulaha, but you must have a Marehan bird, no Hutu is this tribalist, or perhabs an idoor wife? perhaps cuqdad ridden malab has corrupted you warya, insulting the great Absame race
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
VIP
Mr small feet who supports xabashas when you grow your feet and turned into a reall caghdeer I'll start respecting you again .
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