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madaxweyne

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Daacad90

Aspiring Buraanbur Artist.
Whats the point of talking if Farmaajo is not gonna give Somaliland it’s recognition and the Isaaq will never sell their sovereignty to the South again?
Talking could ease tensions between Sl and somalia and could prevent unnecesarry wars from occurring. It is in both Sl and somalia's interest to be friendly neighbours and maintain ties.
 

kickz

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Whats the point of talking if Farmaajo is not gonna give Somaliland it’s recognition and the Isaaq will never sell their sovereignty to the South again?

Obviously there is a reason, or the two sides would not be compelled to talk. We will see what comes of it, ie more meetings etc.
 

AarHawd_7

North-West, London
Talking could ease tensions between Sl and somalia and could prevent unnecesarry wars from occurring. It is in both Sl and somalia's interest to be friendly neighbours and maintain ties.

True, but in the end of the day the main point is Somaliland wants its recognition and Mogadishu wants a united north & south. There is no in between for both parties I think. They can talk about peace and ties between both sides all day long if they want to, but bottom line is neither side is gonna give the other side what they want.

If Farmaajo gives Somaliland what they want (recognition) Somalis in the South particularly his own Daarood tribe will never forgive him again. If Muuse Biixi makes the same mistake as his uncle Maxamed Ibraahiim Cigaal did unifying the north with the south, the Isaaq would never forgive him either. As unifying the North with the South brought nothing but death and destruction to the people of the North.

So what is really the point?
 

Daacad90

Aspiring Buraanbur Artist.
True, but in the end of the day the main point is Somaliland wants its recognition and Mogadishu wants a united north & south. There is no in between for both parties I think. They can talk about peace and ties between both sides all day long if they want to, but bottom line is neither side is gonna give the other side what they want.

If Farmaajo gives Somaliland what they want (recognition) Somalis in the South particularly his own Daarood tribe will never forgive him again. If Muuse Biixi makes the same mistake as his uncle Maxamed Ibraahiim Cigaal did unifying the north with the south, the Isaaq would never forgive him either. As unifying the North with the South brought nothing but death and destruction to the people of the North.

So what is really the point?
I agree Somalia should comprimise and let sl have their self determination. Unity shouldn't be at the expense of increasing the tension between sl and somalia. We are somali and muslim, there is no reason why sl and somalia shouldnt get along. The death and destruction was caused by the dictatorship not uniting with the south your last sentence breeds division and has negative connotations to it.
 
I agree Somalia should comprimise and let sl have their self determination. Unity shouldn't be at the expense of increasing the tension between sl and somalia. We are somali and muslim, there is no reason why sl and somalia shouldnt get along. The death and destruction was caused by the dictatorship not uniting with the south your last sentence breeds division and has negative connotations to it.
Do you feel the same way about communities (clans) within SLs (a clan) claimed borders? How far are you willing to go? Giving every clan a country? lol

It'll never happen tbh, I used to be very sympathetic but once I started paying attention (I always knew it was a foreign initiated project to begin with) you realize all it is is qabyalad + foreign (used to be Ethiopian) + a lot of time, and there is no real reason for it. Thats just my personal opinion.

There is also the fact that itll never actually be a separate entity from the rest of the country. People will come to terms with it and most already have.

After 30+ years of brainwashing it might be hard for some to change their mind but it is what it is, thats how real nations are formed around the world. As long as there is justice in the future we cant allow foreign anti-Somali/Somaliweyn projects to destroy our nation forever by allowing delusional unviable clan fiefdoms.

The world wouldnt even allow it, and hasnt.
 

madaxweyne

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Do you feel the same way about communities (clans) within SLs (a clan) claimed borders? How far are you willing to go? Giving every clan a country? lol

It'll never happen tbh, I used to be very sympathetic but once I started paying attention (I always knew it was a foreign initiated project to begin with) you realize all it is is qabyalad + foreign (used to be Ethiopian) + a lot of time, and there is no real reason for it. Thats just my personal opinion.

There is also the fact that itll never actually be a separate entity from the rest of the country. People will come to terms with it and most already have.

After 30+ years of brainwashing it might be hard for some to change their mind but it is what it is, thats how real nations are formed around the world. As long as there is justice in the future we cant allow foreign anti-Somali/Somaliweyn projects to destroy our nation forever by allowing delusional unviable clan fiefdoms.

The world wouldnt even allow it, and hasnt.
Agreed their is no way anyone would in their right mind would accept colonial borders with communities who still reject it
 

AarHawd_7

North-West, London
Do you feel the same way about communities (clans) within SLs (a clan) claimed borders? How far are you willing to go? Giving every clan a country? lol

It'll never happen tbh, I used to be very sympathetic but once I started paying attention (I always knew it was a foreign initiated project to begin with) you realize all it is is qabyalad + foreign (used to be Ethiopian) + a lot of time, and there is no real reason for it. Thats just my personal opinion.

There is also the fact that itll never actually be a separate entity from the rest of the country. People will come to terms with it and most already have.

After 30+ years of brainwashing it might be hard for some to change their mind but it is what it is, thats how real nations are formed around the world. As long as there is justice in the future we cant allow foreign anti-Somali/Somaliweyn projects to destroy our nation forever by allowing delusional unviable clan fiefdoms.

The world wouldnt even allow it, and hasnt.

Lies, Lies and more Lies from a Farmaajo propagandist. Somaliland will never sell its sovereignty again, they would rather spill blood again than being ruled from the South. They wouldn’t mind ruling their own territory with out recognition even if it would take 300 years, like they did for the past 3 decades.

Forget about Somaliland fight alshabaab
 
Lies, Lies and more Lies from a Farmaajo propagandist. Somaliland will never sell its sovereignty again, they would rather spill blood again than being ruled from the South. They wouldn’t mind ruling their own territory with out recognition even if it would take 300 years, like they did for the past 3 decades.

Forget about Somaliland fight alshabaab
The last 30 years was civil war and most clans defacto ruled their own lands because of the situation, its not unique or impressive. It would be impressive or unique had it happened in a strong, peaceful, regularly functioning state. You'll wake up to reality eventually im not here to convince anyone who is delusional just to call out fake news and BS for the impressionable readers.

Time will tell lol.
 

Daacad90

Aspiring Buraanbur Artist.
Do you feel the same way about communities (clans) within SLs (a clan) claimed borders? How far are you willing to go? Giving every clan a country? lol

It'll never happen tbh, I used to be very sympathetic but once I started paying attention (I always knew it was a foreign initiated project to begin with) you realize all it is is qabyalad + foreign (used to be Ethiopian) + a lot of time, and there is no real reason for it. Thats just my personal opinion.

There is also the fact that itll never actually be a separate entity from the rest of the country. People will come to terms with it and most already have.

After 30+ years of brainwashing it might be hard for some to change their mind but it is what it is, thats how real nations are formed around the world. As long as there is justice in the future we cant allow foreign anti-Somali/Somaliweyn projects to destroy our nation forever by allowing delusional unviable clan fiefdoms.

The world wouldnt even allow it, and hasnt.
Yes I am very inclusive, I support the communities and in Sl borders who want self determination as well. I mean I have to be fair:whoa:
 

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