Rwanda attacked by Congo.

[Burqad]

War just broke out.

 

[World]

This is the EAC federation we’re supposed to join? @Prince of HS

 

[Erythrean]

East African Federation seems more of a hellhole than a Red Sea Federation that I was talking about earlier. Why are they having this war though?

 

[anon2]

DRC abuses Tutsi's. Hutu's literally eat and burn Tutsi's. I wonder if this will intensify. Rwanda has better trained soldiers and a better military, if war does break out, they might be able to take some significant land from the Congo and claim it as their own

 

[Erythrean]

DRC abuses Tutsi's. Hutu's literally eat and burn Tutsi's. I wonder if this will intensify. Rwanda has better trained soldiers and a better military, if war does break out, they might be able to take some significant land from the Congo

Are the Tutsi’s Cushitic?

 

[Burqad]

DRC abuses Tutsi's. Hutu's literally eat and burn Tutsi's. I wonder if this will intensify. Rwanda has better trained soldiers and a better military, if war does break out, they might be able to take some significant land from the Congo

Aren’t Tutsis Ajuuran hawiyes? What is HAG doing about this?

 

[Bundasliga]

A weak congo is of the interest of Rwanda to extract resources .

 

[anon2]

Are the Tutsi’s Cushitic?
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They claim to be, I think physically they look 25% nilotics and 75% cushitic. It might be a good idea to embrace them for soft power purposes. There's a half Tutsi guy with a OG father and he looks 100% Somali, he also knows his abtirsi

 

[World]

They claim to be, I think physically they look 25% nilotics and 75% cushitic. It might be a good idea to embrace them for soft power purposes. There's a half Tutsi guy with a OG father and he looks 100% Somali, he also knows his abtirsi

They’re 50-60 % cushitic

 

[Erythrean]

A weak congo is of the interest of Rwanda to extract resources .

The Congo seems to be a punching bag for all the countries in that region. They got cursed with their position and resources.

 

[Qeelbax]

DRC abuses Tutsi's. Hutu's literally eat and burn Tutsi's. I wonder if this will intensify. Rwanda has better trained soldiers and a better military, if war does break out, they might be able to take some significant land from the Congo and claim it as their own

say wallahi?

 

[Shimbiris]

They claim to be, I think physically they look 25% nilotics and 75% cushitic. It might be a good idea to embrace them for soft power purposes. There's a half Tutsi guy with a OG father and he looks 100% Somali, he also knows his abtirsi

Genetically they can be modeled as like 70-75% Somali-like. They're basically 3/4 Horner by blood and are descended from the Ancient South Cushites who still linguistically survive in people like the Iraqw.



But they have been linguistically Bantu-ized despite being historically cattle pastoralists like the ancient Cushites and assuming a culturally dominant position among the Bantus. These saaxiibs would be ruling the Congo today if it wasn't for constant cadaan interventionism.

 

[Qeelbax]

DRC abuses Tutsi's. Hutu's literally eat and burn Tutsi's. I wonder if this will intensify. Rwanda has better trained soldiers and a better military, if war does break out, they might be able to take some significant land from the Congo and claim it as their own

rwanda has a population of 13 million and Congo has 95 million. Rwanda is 89 times smaller than the DRC.

 

[Qeelbax]

Genetically they can be modeled as like 70-75% Somali-like. They're basically 3/4 Horner by blood and are descended from the Ancient South Cushites who still linguistically survive in people like the Iraqw.



But they have been linguistically Bantu-ized despite being historically cattle pastoralists like the ancient Cushites and assuming a culturally dominant position among the Bantus. These saaxiibs would be ruling the Congo today if it wasn't for constant cadaan interventionism.

how far and wide is native Cushitic land? before the bantu expansion and if it never happened. Would we have east and some of central Africa?

 

[GemState]

Broadly, the Kivu conflicts always put herders in the plateau, Chief among them the Banyamulenge, against lowland farmers. Kivu is unique among Congolese provinces for having this dynamic, since others haven’t experienced recent-ish pastoral migration.

The Kivu conflicts have been ongoing since decolonization and arguably before, but we’re always low level except in the 1990s. What allowed them to explode in that decade was the US permitting Rwanda to invade Congo. 1/3 of regional budgets are foreign aid, so to conduct any aggressive act, a sub-Saharan state needs the permission of a major donor, and only the US and China qualify as that today due to the decline of Europe and especially Russia. Neither Washington nor Beijing is going to green light a third Rwandan intervention because they saw how the last one went, and both their economies are dependent on the smooth flow of Congolese minerals, especially coltan. In the 1990s, the situation was only allowed to get so out of hand because the Clinton administration, seeing the Mobutu regime as an autocratic dinosaur akin to modern Saudi Arabia, got it in their heads that he could be deposed with ease. The coalition that deposed him then fractured, which triggered a bizarre proxy war between the US and France of all countries who supported opposite sides.

These conflicts continue to flare up today because both ethnic categories in Kivu are armed and they keep coming at each other. There’s only one route to peace which is a permanent settlement between the two of them, mostly around grazing rights, but the problem is also not going to blow up into a wider Congolese civil war like in the 90s so nobody feels any urgency to solve it.

 

[Qeelbax]

They claim to be, I think physically they look 25% nilotics and 75% cushitic. It might be a good idea to embrace them for soft power purposes. There's a half Tutsi guy with a OG father and he looks 100% Somali, he also knows his abtirsi

he's one of ours! I heard that Muhammed zubeyr.

 

[Shimbiris]

how far and wide is native Cushitic land? before the bantu expansion and if it never happened. Would we have east and some of central Africa?

Most of everything from Sudan to Chad down to Mozambique would likely be ours today and even some of Yemen but then the Semites and Bantus came with their iron-age technology and only the Cushites in Sudan and the Horn really held out and managed to technologically advance in time to not to be subsumed. Probably also helped that a lot of our lands like in Somaliweyn and northeast Sudan were very arid and not as attractive for settling or just generally difficult to overrun like that. To be fair, a huge chunk of northern Ethiopia was still central Cushitic just 200-500 years ago.

 

[Qeelbax]

Most of everything from Sudan to Chad down to Mozambique would likely be ours today and even some of Yemen but then the Semites and Bantus came with their iron-age technology and only the Cushites in Sudan and the Horn really held out and managed to technologically advance in time to not to be subsumed. Probably also helped that a lot of our lands like in Somaliweyn and northeast Sudan were very arid and not as attractive for settling or just generally difficult to overrun like that. To be fair, a huge chunk of northern Ethiopia was still central Cushitic just 200-500 years ago.

then Amhara happened?

 

[Erythrean]

then Amhara happened?

Amhara are genetically Cushitic

 

[Shimbiris]

then Amhara happened?

To be fair, you can still model most Xabashis as like 3/4 "Somali" . And a chunk of that 1/4 is Omotic and not just Semitic admixture. Their material culture and customs were also historically WAY more in line with ours than with any Jazeerans, even despite Christianity. The Semites who language shifted them were clearly just a minority who managed to dominate for a short time. The Agaws vastly outnumbered them.