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Redditors claiming Northern and Southern Somalis look different?

Shimbiris

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It's either an Oromo or a lander pushing this garbage "are are different" narrative. We ain't different from one another. One of the comments said the south is mixed with Bantu or Nilotic which is laughable.

I still remember when I first encountered some Hawiye, Rx and southern Darood samples (I am part southern myself). Kept being taken aback by how identical they looked to Northeasterners like me and my dad as well as the 'Lander samples I had. Not to mention all the IBD sharing. People from Burco or Bosaso will turn up with distant Somali relatives / segment shares from like Harar to Djibouti to deep into Koonfur. Very close knit ethnic group. Anyone who breaks the norm pretty much has recent confirmed outside admixture (known in the family and visible like a sore-thumb in their auDNA) and is a plain outlier.
 
Look at the pathetic xabashi comment right above yours. Idk why they’re so obsessed with race science. Also, that sub was started by a xabashi so the slop they post there isn’t really surprising.
I'm not even the one bringing up genetics in the first place and I'm literally saying that north and south Somalis are the same.
And the vast majority of Horn Africans discussing genetics are Somalis let's not lie
 



Came across this thread on reddit recently.

I personally don't see Northern Somalis and Southern Somalis look any different from one another and both look the same yet you have people peddling backwards and primitive talking points about Northern phenotypes looking more Arab/Habesha adjacent while Southern looks more Nilotic/Bantu and that has never been more of a lie to me personally since I've never encountered nor seen that?

What is this despicable lie about Southern Somalia being invested with Bantus and its just one big Bantu Mut-land when that couldn't be further from the truth.

What is Somalispot's thoughts on this because it seems I'm losing my mind here, don't know what to believe anymore.
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Mohmed

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It'd be interesting to map out regional differences among the Somali people. Because the landmass that they cover is long and wide so there has got to be some divergence. But not in a "bantu" or "arab" admixture bs
 

caano_shaah

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It'd be interesting to map out regional differences among the Somali people. Because the landmass that they cover is long and wide so there has got to be some divergence. But not in a "bantu" or "arab" admixture bs
No it wouldnt. We dont need to feed into narrative that seek to create more division amongst us.
 
I still remember when I first encountered some Hawiye, Rx and southern Darood samples (I am part southern myself). Kept being taken aback by how identical they looked to Northeasterners like me and my dad as well as the 'Lander samples I had. Not to mention all the IBD sharing. People from Burco or Bosaso will turn up with distant Somali relatives / segment shares from like Harar to Djibouti to deep into Koonfur. Very close knit ethnic group. Anyone who breaks the norm pretty much has recent confirmed outside admixture (known in the family and visible like a sore-thumb in their auDNA) and is a plain outlier.
Are you really a northeasterner if you have southern ancestry?
Sorry Sigma GIF
 



Came across this thread on reddit recently.

I personally don't see Northern Somalis and Southern Somalis look any different from one another and both look the same yet you have people peddling backwards and primitive talking points about Northern phenotypes looking more Arab/Habesha adjacent while Southern looks more Nilotic/Bantu and that has never been more of a lie to me personally since I've never encountered nor seen that?

What is this despicable lie about Southern Somalia being invested with Bantus and its just one big Bantu Mut-land when that couldn't be further from the truth.

What is Somalispot's thoughts on this because it seems I'm losing my mind here, don't know what to believe anymore.
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Shimbiris

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Are you really a northeasterner if you have southern ancestry?
Sorry Sigma GIF

Couldn't care less about such things but if you're curious, dad is Dishiishe (paternal line) with Warsangali, Habar Yoonis and MJ in him. Sanaag-Bari folks. Mom's paternal lines are reer Mudug (Reer Khalaf) MJs but on both sides her fam were basically those MJs who went down to Koonfur during the 19th to early 20th centuries or so. Her father's side married Reer Gedo Mareexaans (forgot the sub but I remember my ayeeyo saying they were big wigs like some reer Ugaas of some kind) and her mother's side married Maalin Weyn Raxanweyns from Baydhabo. All genetically identical to northerners given mine and parents' genomic structure.

So I myself am 6/8ths drawn from northeastern subtribes. Dishiishe, Majeerteen, Warsangeli and Habar Yoonis. In that order of frequency and importance.
 
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Couldn't care less about such things but if you're curious, dad is Dishiishe (paternal line) with Warsangali, Habar Yoonis and MJ in him. Sanaag-Bari folks. Mom's paternal lines are reer Mudug (Reer Khalaf) MJs but on both sides her fam were basically those MJs who went down to Koonfur during the 19th to early 20th centuries or so. Her father's side married Reer Gedo Mareexaans (forgot the sub but I remember my ayeeyo saying they were big wigs like some reer Ugaas of some kind) and her mother's side married Maalin Weyn Raxanweyns from Baydhabo. All genetically identical to northerners given mine and parents' genomic structure.

So I myself am 6/8ths drawn from northeastern subtribes. Dishiishe, Majeerteen, Warsangeli and Habar Yoonis. In that order of frequency and importance.
Is there really any difference between Dishiishe and MJ? :hillarybiz:
 

Shimbiris

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Is there really any difference between Dishiishe and MJ? :hillarybiz:

It is officially a different sub and while I have yet to get Big Y tested, I've heard we belong to a different subclade of E-Z813 that is actually closer to the Habar Awal, hilariously enough. But don't quote me on that. I'll have to doublecheck that with my own result and some others from my tribe someday. But practically speaking, pretty much MJs in my mind. My dad literally first explained the subtribe to me by saying, "We're not technically Majeerteens but we have always lived among them and married them and they are our big brothers who took us in and took care of us. You can think of us as basically Majeerteen if you want."
 

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