Puntland Team To Meet SFG

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Deni has remarked that PL will sit down and negiotate with the SFG. But I fear PL relies on the old generation who are still trying to pass through it's policies using either >>>> 'emotion or feelings' or nepotism >>>> 'family iyo xidid' ties to get through their policies. This worked in the old days, but it's a new world today. People want ideas grounded in rationality not emotions or nepotism plus they want a win-win outcome not a win-lose scenario.

PL must tell the South the following truth;

1. PL will not accept any federal model that is outside or incosistent with the PL model. This ends their politicians playing word salad using federalism loopholes
2. PL must demand the South organize itself at a social-political-traditional level or else we fear that any agreement reached is not the wishes of it's people but individuals
3. The presidential model must be rejected on the grounds it goes against centralizing power to a President. We must tell them if their is problems in the system, we can fix it, but we are not replacing it. They confuse a human problem with a system problem. Their is bad doctors, doesn't mean medicine is being replaced. Their is bad muslims, doesn't mean anyone is proposing to replace it. We must tell them just becuz their has been pm/president clashes doesn't mean the parliamentary system is the problem. Let's fix the grey areas in the constitution to resolve this following in the spirit of not centralizing power to the president
4. We must discuss how to make the President ceremonial and head of state only not involved in day to day govt affairs and fix the constitution to reflect that
5. PL wants to keep it's development aid separate to the SFG
6. Untill Rule of Law, Strong Systems, good governance is achieved in the SFG with international confidence(they must come out of halane), PL will remain separate.

PL must keep this option on the table if the SFG disagree with PL model Federalism, that PL may consider a 99 year treaty system(two systems 1 nation model) like china and hong kong where we are separate and will conduct every 25 years a once in a generation reviews with the South untill such time the 99 year treaty is complete. It will be discussed if the conditions are ripe for union, extending the treaty, or if PL should be sovereign country once the treaty expires.

Why this system is win-win for SFG and PL. It allows both a cooling off period while allowing each to fix their part of the nation. It's also a medium ground solution between secession-union, appeasing all sides. It allows PL to return stronger and better to do it's bit and be a positive force for it's neighbors and Somalia, or in the event PL has a crisis or our vision didn't work out, we have a back-up solution where we can re-unite with the South. PL doesn't need extreme solutions rushed unions or rushed secession, but a 'diversified' model where we can enjoy as many benefits with minimal risks.

Puntland has to drop the old generation style politics and present it's ideas so it can be tested at theoritical level and then further test it with practical real world models.
 
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If the PL team sent to the SFG follow what I said if they reject a PL model Federalism. Your Plan B the 'two systems one nation' model will allow you to enjoy peace n development without being stuck in Somalia conflict, U will review if a safe union is possible thru 25 year generational interval reviews untill 99 years treaty expiration.

It allows your secessionist/unionist to be satisfied. It provides a cooling off period for both the SFG and PL. It's not rushed union nor an extreme secession. In the event PL fails, we can throw our lot back into Somalia. If Somalia fails, we are already independent and developed our regional-global nation state profile to be accepted by the world.
 
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If the PL Team follow Dr Osman game-plan. The SFG team stand no chance becuz were using theory and practical models to support our vision and aspirations.

The PL team entering Mogadishu talks will be like this confident they know the 'outcome' before it even started. No-one can challeng 'rationality' ama 'maskaxda' without looking incompetent.

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The PL team shouldn't entertain HSM Democracy becuz the security environment isn't there. Plus we must warn them even if the conditions were present, the south will have to allocate 80% to the un-armed majority or else this un-workable armed minority ruling an unarmed majority is the reason for the instability. PL must take a strong stance that an armed minority cannot rule an un-armed majority and it must be a masiir.
 

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@Dalalos_ibn_Adali I am trying to switch PL away from familism(xidid), nepotism which 1950-69 type of politics was grounded in and shift us towards a politics grounded in rationality and presented using theory with practical observations.

This can make us win locally and globally, cause we are appealing to common ground areas like intellect. Where-as the worst politics is grounded in feelings and emotions which only concludes in violence(more emotion). When-ever u see violence(emotional symptom) u can be guaranteed by default it has 'emotional rooted' politics which you need to find.
 

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@Dalalos_ibn_Adali when someone is 100% confident at an intellect/rationality level in their philosophy-idealogy-vision-aragti, they don't resort to violence even if it is being rejected. Their confident that the future will honor them as ahead of their time.

For example, I hold onto human rights being supreme morality system, I believe this is consistent with God establishing Adam freedom first, belief and doing good are mere 'choices' not 'sharci'. Humans Rights are established at an 'adamic or human level' not at a 'belief or identity' level. Now do I see anyone following my philosophy in Somalia, NO, they interfere in people's choices and strip away what god gave them, freedom.

Does it mean I tanasuled? NO. War illa yowmul qiyamo I will stand before god with this principle. I will not resort to violence to implement it either or cause instability, becuz it's grounded in 'intellect' not 'emotions' which all the other morality systems are grounded in, that's why they have violence incorporated since it has emotional root.

I will just let my ppl only to record and pass on my philosophy to the future who will honor me that a Dr Osman existed in the 21st century, who his peers and time-period didn't understand and rejected, he was a 'salaheen' of his time, I hope they honor me only. That's it. When an idea is grounded in intellect, you don't seek emotional violence to implement it, becuz it has intellect root not an emotional root. None of Somalia uses this gift of the intellect and their like naago and that's why everything has violent ending.
 
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Could you remind us whom the Committee Members are? Has the Committee outlined talking points?

I think it's about finalizing the constitution and addressing these issues.

1. Presidential or Parliamentary system. HSM brought this up that it has led to conflict due to the grey areas of the constitution. We must say is medicine thrown out becuz of bad doctors? no. Just becuz the parliamentary system has conflict, it could be human problem doesn't mean it's system problem. We must discuss only how to fix grey areas in the constitution to ensure the president is only ceremonial and the PM is the head of the govt.. If the president doesn't have the 'aragti' of selecting a PM for 4 years and stepping aside for the PM to implement it and surround himself with the right team, he isn't presidential material, it's not the parliamentary system at fault but the president of the day.

2. Democracy. This must not be discussed and is just jambal so he can get through wat he really wants, which is to change the parliamentary to presidential. Adiga oo ceelasha tagi karin oo 60 thousand soldiers are present in the south, wax nin wayn ku hadla ma aha, wa jambal.

3. Power-sharing/Resource sharing. We must make it clear anything outside PL model of federalism is rejected, he will argue why not a GM type of federalism oo hos tagta villada.

4. Legal architecture and the relevant commission to establish, Federal border commission to establish federal borders
 
I think it's about finalizing the constitution and addressing these issues.

1. Presidential or Parliamentary system. HSM brought this up that it has led to conflict due to the grey areas of the constitution. We must say is medicine thrown out becuz of bad doctors? no. Just becuz the parliamentary system has conflict, it could be human problem doesn't mean it's system problem. We must discuss only how to fix grey areas in the constitution to ensure the president is only ceremonial and the PM is the head of the govt.. If the president doesn't have the 'aragti' of selecting a PM for 4 years and stepping aside for the PM to implement it and surround himself with the right team, he isn't presidential material, it's not the parliamentary system at fault but the president of the day.

2. Democracy. This must not be discussed and is just jambal so he can get through wat he really wants, which is to change the parliamentary to presidential. Adiga oo ceelasha tagi karin oo 60 thousand soldiers are present in the south, wax nin wayn ku hadla ma aha, wa jambal.

3. Power-sharing/Resource sharing. We must make it clear anything outside PL model of federalism is rejected, he will argue why not a GM type of federalism oo hos tagta villada.

4. Legal architecture and the relevant commission to establish, Federal border commission to establish federal borders
Thank you. Is the question of his wanting to return to the North/East vs South-Central approach of the early 2000s, where he would ignore the former whilst considering the latter to wholly represent the nation under discussion?
 

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Thank you. Is the question of his wanting to return to the North/East vs South-Central approach of the early 2000s, where he would ignore the former whilst considering the latter to wholly represent the nation under discussion?

That's how the World sees Somalia, especially UN. It's due to security conditions.

1. NW, NE are seen as more secure, politically more mature, and development ready
2. South-Central share the same security challenges and lack of state maturity.

That classification won't change whether HSM wants to accept it or not. He wants to hold PL/SL hostage to south-central priorities, we don't share the same priorities he should be told and it's hasidnimo to ask NW/NE sit there for 20 years while south-central catches up, which it hasn't. Let him focus there only.
 
That's how the World sees Somalia, especially UN. It's due to security conditions.

1. NW, NE are seen as more secure, politically more mature, and development ready
2. South-Central share the same security challenges and lack of state maturity.

That classification won't change whether HSM wants to accept it or not. He wants to hold PL/SL hostage to south-central priorities, we don't share the same priorities he should be told and it's hasidnimo to ask NW/NE sit there for 20 years while south-central catches up, which it hasn't. Let him focus there only.
Then there is a long, long way to go, and so long as the FGS is not an inclusive entity identifiable with by legacy States in the North and East, particularly PL, then leaderships of FGS and said States must be reminded of that fact.

Yet, in discussing debt forgiveness, the said States, particularly PL, are expected to sign off, where in reality FGS's politics remains beyond their purview. Politics in failed States are convoluted, if confusing.
 

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