OPINION Puntland Should Support Tigray

[DR OSMAN]

Tigray have always been great to PL. It was Meles who freed Abdillahi Yusuf in 1991 after Menguistu arrested him for failing to cede Somali territory. The TPLF also was hosted in Somalia by Siyad Barre. It was yet again the TPLF that helped us when the world put an arms embargo on Somalia to restore Somalia from those HAG goons. The habasha that are praised in many islamic text for hosting the early muslims were from Tigray region.

We must never support Oromo, they are like Isaaq, they never had power and 'yearn n cry for it'. We must never support Amhara, they have always been a hostile enemy of PL, Muslims, and in general think they are 'dhaxaltoyo' for power. We must stay away from them. Under Tigray we saw DDSI rise with a strong ogadenist leader like Ilay. We need an Illay type leader in DDS for Garacad to prosper and to ensure road-networks to Galdogob.

Today with Cagjar in power he is following that Oromo idiot who is empowering Dir-Hag clans who are minority and cannot even raise a rebellion if OG'S unite behind Ilay, they will be wiped out. We must closely follow the geo-politics of our neighbors, we are not benefiting with a DDSI under a weak ogadenist. We must also honor our long historical relation with 'east yemen n socotra island' in particular Mukallah with our 'Meheri brothers' and also 'Salalah Oman' were heaps of Hartis live for centuries.

We need to finally take a strong posture with the Turks n Qatar, those ppl are in bed with the muslim brotherhood. Turks are doing the brotherhood 'charity' missions only because they don't want to lose their NATO status while Qatar is doing their financing n relocating when needed.

We need to get rid of the UK and stick it out with the Americans who fund n train our PSF. We should ensure all our projects are given to China, we need to foster our growth there, the next superpower is them, we must get in early and preach to them Majerteniya Dominance of Horn, we need to begin by ensuring all our economic projects are 'favored' towards them, this will be a start of a great and reliable relationship for us and them.

I feel like a clown when PL is giving road projects to Turks, these are the same ppl building up Mogadishu so they can send them after you tommorow while u sit there and reward them with our projects. Maybe our leaders need courses in geopolitics.

Never mix your trade-military-development partners, keep them separate from each other in the event one falls thru, u have other options to utilize.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Get in Puntites, let's discuss geo-politics and where we need to fulfill our role as an ally or where can benefit from new alliances. Plese also state our enemies and how we can push them out of Somalia

 

[DR OSMAN]

Sorry @Abba Sadacha but PL is going to back Tigray anywhere anytime in Ethiopia. Do not bother with us, we don't like the oromo walking hordes. U stole Dire Dawa and Harar, Tigray have been the best ally of PL in Ethiopia. You oromo n amhara are public enemy in PL, never forget that. May Abi Ahmaq be deposed immediately, you ppl belong nowhere in power, you have no history for it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

First line of Defence. Puntland Samurai Squad.

PS- That's the first line only, we have complex web of defence and offense postures, come out and find out at your own PERIL.

 

[TekNiKo]

Brother Abby is Marexaan ally and he is winning, many lost Orma are originally MX. He will defeat his enemies! He has joined the frontlines

 

[En_Sabah Nur]

Being neutral is the best strategy. Let them destroy each other

 

[DR OSMAN]

Being neutral is the best strategy. Let them destroy each other

Neutral doesn't work. We tried that in 91 when SSDF collapsed and Abdillahi Yusuf was arrested. It just led to our genocide in the end by being neutral civilians in the capital with no armed faction. I am afraid we need to pick someone and Tigrays are the best partner to work with when u look at the other options in Ethiopia. Amhara n Oromo haven't done shit for PL.

Oromo is pro farmaajo and they also lean towards SL. Oromo are the ones who took dire dawa n harar thru their walking migration tactics. Amhara imprisoned Abdillahi Yusuf and were always Anti Darod.

 

[En_Sabah Nur]

Dr Osman

Ethiopia is not some red eyed moryaans with AK-47’s and technicals. We are talking about professional armies with experienced generals on both sides. PL, SL and Somalia in general doesn’t stand a chance against the TDF or Ethiopia. Best we can hope for is they destroy each other and there is a fractured Ethiopia.

 

[Aurelian]

First line of Defence. Puntland Samurai Squad.

PS- That's the first line only, we have complex web of defence and offense postures, come out and find out at your own PERIL.

 

[repo]

They have never been great to Puntland and they have proven themselves to be backstabbing and unreliable. However I would still support them to fight back against Amhara who are conducting a genocidal war. Right now we have anti Puntland elements in all directions, who share envy of our progress and development. So we must seek new allies.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Sorry @Abba Sadacha but PL is going to back Tigray anywhere anytime in Ethiopia. Do not bother with us, we don't like the oromo walking hordes. U stole Dire Dawa and Harar, Tigray have been the best ally of PL in Ethiopia. You oromo n amhara are public enemy in PL, never forget that. May Abi Ahmaq be deposed immediately, you ppl belong nowhere in power, you have no history for it.

Lol. That's fine, but Tigrayans will never return to their former position. Never.
So, for better or worse, you gonna have to deal with your Oromo neighbors for a loooooong time.

 

[Trapmacalin]

Tigray have always been great to PL. It was Meles who freed Abdillahi Yusuf in 1991 after Menguistu arrested him for failing to cede Somali territory. The TPLF also was hosted in Somalia by Siyad Barre. It was yet again the TPLF that helped us when the world put an arms embargo on Somalia to restore Somalia from those HAG goons. The habasha that are praised in many islamic text for hosting the early muslims were from Tigray region.

We must never support Oromo, they are like Isaaq, they never had power and 'yearn n cry for it'. We must never support Amhara, they have always been a hostile enemy of PL, Muslims, and in general think they are 'dhaxaltoyo' for power. We must stay away from them. Under Tigray we saw DDSI rise with a strong ogadenist leader like Ilay. We need an Illay type leader in DDS for Garacad to prosper and to ensure road-networks to Galdogob.

Today with Cagjar in power he is following that Oromo idiot who is empowering Dir-Hag clans who are minority and cannot even raise a rebellion if OG'S unite behind Ilay, they will be wiped out. We must closely follow the geo-politics of our neighbors, we are not benefiting with a DDSI under a weak ogadenist. We must also honor our long historical relation with 'east yemen n socotra island' in particular Mukallah with our 'Meheri brothers' and also 'Salalah Oman' were heaps of Hartis live for centuries.

We need to finally take a strong posture with the Turks n Qatar, those ppl are in bed with the muslim brotherhood. Turks are doing the brotherhood 'charity' missions only because they don't want to lose their NATO status while Qatar is doing their financing n relocating when needed.

We need to get rid of the UK and stick it out with the Americans who fund n train our PSF. We should ensure all our projects are given to China, we need to foster our growth there, the next superpower is them, we must get in early and preach to them Majerteniya Dominance of Horn, we need to begin by ensuring all our economic projects are 'favored' towards them, this will be a start of a great and reliable relationship for us and them.

I feel like a clown when PL is giving road projects to Turks, these are the same ppl building up Mogadishu so they can send them after you tommorow while u sit there and reward them with our projects. Maybe our leaders need courses in geopolitics.

Never mix your trade-military-development partners, keep them separate from each other in the event one falls thru, u have other options to utilize.

When are you gonna realise the international community doesn’t care about clans and these states but sees Somalia as one. Why would a UN recognised country build ties with a state in Somalia but not the federal government of Somalia?. America, turkey or Britain doesn’t care about federal states but sees Somalia as a whole to be all one thing so it will build a relationship with the government based in the capital. Qabyaalad is killing my people’s common sense Wallahi

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Trapmacalin PL has to be a good friend n partner to it's allies so we show we are mature state that stands by it's friend. I am disgusted that Tigray helped us by freeing Abdillahi Yusuf in 91, They helped us dislodge moryans n terrorists in the capital when the whole world stood by and didn't care that PL was hostage to thugs n goons in the capital, we couldn't access also modern weapons which Meles helped with.

Yet we stand by idly in the Ethiopian civil war is nonsense and shows that we do not honor those who stood by us. PL has historical allies in east yemen mukallah n socotra thru Mahri ppl, Salalah Oman is also a good friend of PL,Bosaso port couldn't handle Large ships and we re-route our trade at Salalah Oman into dhows. Oman stood by us all these years. UAE is another friend of PL who funds our PMPF and is a trade partner. America also stood by us and funds PSF and we enjoy a long security partnership since 2003.

PL is an ancient sultanate, manahin dad manta dawlad baranayo like you abgaals.

PL Friends must be honored and respected by the SFG or else we will head towards confederation models with the SFG disempowered of it's duties due to incompetence. PL needs to develop n foster new friends without abadoning our old friends.

China is definitely somewhere we need to immediately tap into and forge a development partnership and give them all our development contracts. You @Trapmacalin are just a peasant farmer, you couldn't control a capital city that your the majority in, langaabki ku dhalay wase, nacas doqon baa tahay and famously known in the nation as 'dameer abgaal'

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Trapmacalin what do u have to offer other then being the capital and leeching of other Somali names, you can't build yourself, look at hirshabelle, it's non existant becuz let's be honest you always survived by 'sucking on the somali name' you as an abgaal are nothing important. Where-as me I stand on my own, I don't suck on the Somali tit like u, I don't need Somalis to come to my region or help me like you do. I had to rescue your ass becuz u couldn't manage yourself. I helped build myself while also 'resurrecting' your adeers and all u ever do is bad mouth my region. You god damn son of a biij. Let this be a warning to Puntites who cry for Somalinimo, war Somalidan kuma rabtee, ee dadka aad saxiibo la tihin ha iska burburina, wa iga talo.

If u want evidence that your the biggest langaab, Hirshabelle bal eeg, u can barely even walk down the street from hamar to afgoye, forget governing or developing, you can't even walk down the streets of mogadishu u langaab where u r the majority.

 

[DR OSMAN]

They have never been great to Puntland and they have proven themselves to be backstabbing and unreliable. However I would still support them to fight back against Amhara who are conducting a genocidal war. Right now we have anti Puntland elements in all directions, who share envy of our progress and development. So we must seek new allies.

Waryaa PL isn't hawiye oo malin walbo kastumada iska badesho. PL should never go down that route of flipping thru new alliances, states are judged on how long their alliances or treaties last, it's called political stability and PL is stable politically.

There isn't two different geopolitical war happening on our door-step like Mogadishu. PL should tap into new alliances but not at the expense of our historical friends or else this means our new friends will just turn around and say we are unreliable like HAGS. We need to maintain our old alliances at all costs.

Somalia is heading towards centralism because Oromo n Amhara are centralist leaning goons, Tigray is a strong federalist, PL must support those who share the same political vision. We don't want a centralized state and nor do the tigrays. Isku siyasad baan nahay.

We must condemn Abi Ahmed Genocide in Tigray, We must send a team to tigray and ask them if there is anything PL can do to assist. This is the sign of a friend, this is what they did for us when the HAG goons were in the capital holding the nation state less.

Tigray are a good people and they support a 'strong darodist' to run the affairs in DDSI which we also need, we need investment in road networks in DDSI to connect to Galdogob, we need the OG'S under Ilay or someone with the same philosophy not Cagjar. PL should stop sitting idly n playin neutral, because who-ever wins will come and get us and if we are not the side who wins, we get punished. Neutral is the worst stance to take, we have enuff lessons from 91 where that led too, we need to play our card and back our friends.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I hate Somalinimo, we must tell the UN those who promote it are asking for inter nationalist wars similar to somalia vs ethiopia in 1977, nationalism is condemned all over the world, becuz it only leads down 1 road, nations vs nations. I urge PL to raise this up with the UN and our allies. Somalinimo is a destructive idealogy and has cost PL the most. Somalinimo is a silly idealogy that overlooks different region interest and says to unite over ethnicity. That's nonsense, politics isn't about ethnicity, who in the world created this garbage. Abbe Siyad did and his marehan goons who don't understand shit.

We even gullible and sit there helping Djibouti when they were invaded by Eritrea, It was only Puntites who send them food n medicine, how did these scoundrels pay us back? they backed abdiqasim salat who introduced this horrific 4.5 oo illa manta laga gudbi la'yahay. PL waa in laga tirtira somalinimo, political allies are not based on ethnicity but shared interests in trade, development, security, and political outlook.

That's how alliances are formed with ppl who share the same visions and goals as you. Somalis do not share the same vision n goals as you, they are in-fact against you but you are so gullible and help them when you shouldn't.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Puntites are 'nacasyo' Look at the western world who has NATO, an attack on one is an attack on all policy, they don't sit there if their allies are attacked. If federalism is being crushed in Ethiopia, this will only mean Ethiopia will back Centralist in Somalia to crush PL and federalism. Do not shed tears when Ethiopia arms up Centralists in Mogadishu to crush federalism and attack PL, it's will be to late to respond then, becuz u stood by idly when your own federalist ally in tigray is being attacked. Aragti xuma Puntland, waxay moodan neutrality is going to win them friends on both side, it doesn't and never has.

Neutrality is a position taken by those who have no political idealaogy, if u have political idealogy, u must find friends who have the same politics and support each other. Look at SL running around with Taiwan, hadee siyasad ba ka dhexayso which is 'separatism', they will continue to find friends who are separatist worldwide.

PL must not stand by idly as federalism is being crushed in Ethiopia. Kulaha neutrality, u can't play the neutral card if you have a political position, once u hold onto a position politically, you must go find allies who share the same political views. PL need bold leaders who can guarantor our future for the next century or two, it will take at least a century or two before somalia stabilizes. If we do not find friends to keep us surviving during that period.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Get in here you dumb puntites, you keep quiet about foreign relations, war fuckin screw that backward somalinimo idealogy uniting ppl on ethnicity and not political interests, im about puntland political idealogy and anyone and anywhere in the world who supports this idealogy is our friend.

I don't make friends with ppl on ethno-nationalism crap but friends on shared interests only. We must give China all our development programs not the 'west'. The west is on-board aleady for federalism but they are un-decided on what type of federalism which is the battle that is happening in Somalia.

We must get China on-board by giving our development projects, foster this relationship for at least 20 years and then propose to china to back Puntland model of federation and scare them into opposing centralization which will mean they won't enjoy any more development contracts. We need to begin this shift immediately and hand down a Puntland n China development friendship. We should also secure loans from their banks for big infrastructure jobs, so this will force the chinese hand to ensure a PL model of federation is best.

 

[Hardrock]

Think outside the box at least once in your life time united we stand divided we fall. We shouldn't take anything short of Somali every ethnic group in the region are united under one banner why should we divide ourselves along clans when facing the enemy we should keep all our difference a side for our own survival. Ethiopia threat should unite us not the other way round.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Think outside the box at least once in your life time united we stand divided we fall. We shouldn't take anything short of Somali every ethnic group in the region are united under one banner why should we divide ourselves along clans when facing the enemy we should keep all our difference a side for our own survival. Ethiopia threat should unite us not the other way round.

I don't believe in ethno-nationalism, that shit was tried in europe and led to two world wars. U will not scare us anymore into 'ethnicity n politics work', My friends is those who support our vision n political platform for Somalia re-construction, anyone outside those parameters are not my friend irrespective if they are Somali or not.

The world has moved beyond ethno-nationalsm post world war 2, friends can only be established now with those who u share a common vision and politics.