Puntland Real Democracy Model. Not Fake One

[DR OSMAN]

I will be honest with u guys as I keep these sort of things to myself as my dad thinks weli 'somalia uma eeko xaqiiqda' dalka taal oo waa 'qabiil' waxana dan ka leh 'elite lineages' who want to keep their 'reer miyi, beeralay, poor people' in buranbuur mode while they take the 'loot' for beeshooda gaarka ah following the old 'colonial or kingdom' arrangement.

I suggest for PL the following democracy and why I say PL, horta inu halkasi ka hirgala intanan dalka inteeda kale loo gayn like 'federalism' and present it as working solution for Somalia as a whole not a 'qabiil' only like 'Somaliland'.

Isaaq, HG, Abgaal plz don't bother coming to troll as your awoowyaal did this' wax qaawan ba tihin who just come for fights like aborigines and GALMURANS to hide your lack of intellectual quality, your not the elite of the nation. @Teeri-Alpha is because he found this 'sickening somalinimo idealogy' in the nation which is based on 'identity politics' like 'diinta, dalka, luqada' where-as the realities on the ground says something totally different and therefore the system isn't suitable for the realities on the ground.

Teeri is founder of Somalinimo which was anti-colonial in spirit so he has a right to know what this nation really needs, you guys were treaties of aboriginal elders in nature reserves or wax qaawaans like GM(cayr, saleban) sacad wa isdaboolay kkkk and why they took over Hawiye clan and still rules them and is big 'power' not anymore 'mentally' due to the war lakin weli 'inyar dad wax garanayo waa uu nool yihin' but most are 'moryan' due to aideed legacy.

The time of the colonial legacy is over that is why it doesn't work anymore Teeri, wax lagu midowbi karo ma jiro dalka ileen ma joggo colonial to create somalinimo waxanu nahay beelo hada, that's why we need another proper system to address 'beelo' lakin 'dano' waa jira isku dan ma aha beeshu gudaheeda in all clans.

The rest of the nation clans lack intellectual capacity, even Marehan idin 'dhaamo' wallahi oo ka 'faidaystay' waqtikisa. Dhulbahante is 'dead'. Warsangeli is a 'bit healthy' still. But the rest are here for 'wax ha noqon' like 'palestinians' only who lost 70 years to this nonsense and the 'gains' haven't been on his side whatsoever.

The following Puntland Democracy model I think speaks of the realities of the ground.

1. Hisbi ku saabsan 'hantiwadaag' following in the spirit of 'siyad barre' who brought millions of people out of the old system of 'elites' in the coast and urban centers taking everything. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for his grand vision, I would probably being eeating 'dhagax' somewhere in qabiil wars while my 'elite lineages' capacity build. This old saldanad approach has failed.

We even left the kingdom in PL and resettled in nugaal for this main reason to 'forge' new ties with issa mahmoud. I think this is true of all the nation where farmers, poor, nomads of each clan can join together in massive communist party or call it socialist it doesn't matter how u word it but the policy is the same, to steer policies towards them like Siyad did.

2. We need a party for people 'wax haysta' maybe u can call it 'hanti gaar party' in PL they can unite their elites be it coastal, urban, diaspora, etc and fight to keep the nation in their hands not the overwhelming majority of farmers, nomads, fishermen or the basic people.

3. Religious party for the Islamist as their are 'some' who genuinely believe in their morality crap but their 'very few' so you will see this party votes will not win much but u never know how they politics and which party to 'ally' with like hanti-wadaag(socialist) or the hanti-gaar parties cause that's all they do in America to inject their 'religious' nonsense.

PS - Me for personal reasons and for my legacy of 'awoowe' who died in wars defending a kingdom that only rewarded him 'to eat rocks' and to make it worse they still insulted him and called him 'cowskasi iska cun'. They were terrible people these royals all over the world to their peasantry class or warrior class, no respect whatsoever which led to 'communism' being beloved all over the world when the new world started and deep down, I love it too. This can mean bah dubays can be something without jama ali jama or cade muse or boqor rising up and 'creating' jabhad arguing your 'gaal communist' but the real reason he is angry I am becoming something.

My dad has 'real' anger for elite class in Majerten saying 'we never cockblock u' when in power but if siyad gave us posts in his govt, you created a 'jambal' of 'siyad waa gaal, waa qabili' and all this nonsense si aad dadka danahooda k qaldanta. Thru this party, I can also revenge for what they did to my father who would've been very successful and possibly a minister if he rose up the ranks as diplomat and ambassador but siyad told him 'dad ba dalka joggo oo diidan inaad wax noqon oo iyagu loo dhiibo' meaning these 'elite hanti gaar cunts' their all over the world and their in Somalia, so politics needs to be grounded in 'reality. Yes Somali is tribal lakin 'dano' ayaa la kala lee yahay, my clan lives rural, another clan might live urban, some may be in diaspora, some maybe religious. Isku mowqiif manahin iyo bahashan qabiilka waxaa loo haysta due to the 'nation' being tribal since 91 thanks to those JABHAD cunts who were just against dadkooda la hayste ah inay wax noqdan.

I will join this massive hanti wadaag party as danaha bah dubays ku jiro

While I am always Harti haday 'dagaal' dhacdo like 'the anglo saxon treaty of security'. Not 'offensive' war like other clans but 'defensive' only

PS - Arimaha boqortoyada as far my dad is concerned is over cause 'calaamka' loo aqoonsaday, lakin meeshu bah dubays ka galayo 'nabadoonada' ayaa loo fadhiyo, cuz anagu we know danaheena we ain't sitting in qardho with ppl aanu mar hore garanay inaysan dan noogu jirin we had visionary awooweyaal

 

[DR OSMAN]

Southerners think @Teeri-Alpha they will get something with qabiil, my awooweyaal remember the saldanoyin, way naga dambayan dhinac qabiilka, u dont get shit, niin wax haysto iyo niin wax haysan ba kala tihin rotina ma soo turo, awooweyaasha ayaa arkay oo na badbaadiyay oo nugaal na keenay to kick star bah dubays survival, my dad picked up from it with hanti wadaag policies of siyad and reached top and injected investment into me so now I come save bah dubays. Qabiil is only war time and security that is why isimo r conflict resolution only, wax kale kuma gaban karan, u have to help yourself not beg qabiil or wallahi i wud remain in those miyi conditions today if it wasnt for siyad opportunity of window and we SEIZED IT and capitalized.

PS - my dad does have sour grapes that his opportunity was stopped by elite hungry sub clans so he wants to get revenge and isolate them and he knows who they are in all 'jilibs' wuu qortay in hawiye, isaaq, majerten, ogaden lakin si nidaamsan oo dawladnimo dhab ah ma aha middani oo iyagu ka soo bixi kare buu yirahda, ma raban in xaqiiq loo hadlo oo dadkani xabsi lagu haysto

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha Ogaden is just security pact in-case of war, but surely u must have different interests b based on your clans urban, rural, diaspora, regional? you need to decide where ur sub clan fits in and they need to also when there is peace time, isku mowqiif ma noqon kartan, as some will have interests.

The only reason I am pro kab iyo lax is due to 'elites' of other clans saying ur whole clan wont be shit kkkkk oo weli dagaal rabo so they can ensure they can imagine a nation of la haystes below them(wa riyo) aan xitaa macqul ahayn it's because they lack deep understanding of qabiilku, hada la baray badana during dagaaladi weliba waxay ka barteen dadka qaawaan ama ISIMO LAHAYN

 

[DR OSMAN]

My dad calls them wax qaawan due to sultanates ama isimo wax baro, he tells them anigu ha ii tashane, ee wado jeexo oo vision ah sida siyad barre si looga hadlo fa'idada uu keenay, niin aan wado jeexin karin ba raba inu isbaaro ii dhigto anigu oo saldanad fac wayn ka soo jeedo, manta ma baran bahashu waryaa, he just turns the TV off untill he sees a real ELITE OO WAX NOQDAY WAQTIGI SIYAD

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha I have a personal love for the rural nomads as my father stories is about them, maybe it will be different for coastal, urban, let them decide what they back. But we can all join hanti-wadaag principles as it empowers all of us as we got the same goal. I love 'ciidaan' that's my history as I was an interior clan so I am definitely 'military' leader supportive like siyad, abdillahi, not 'elites'.

My dad is like this when he sees 'ciidaan' becuz each man loves his roots. I do also. I dont like coastal, farmers, urbans. I know my family roots and all people are like this, its their identity, values, where its formed that's why my dad is honest person dhagaxasi waa yaqana rafaadka loo maray dhinaca ciidanka

He says iyagu wax bay reeban haday qorsho loo dhiigo. He likes only some 'elites' that have big visions ama wax lala yaabo but not the 'galmuran' types, he turns on sayidka gabays to understand it more, kan ba ii dhaamo buu yiri oo wax reebay inaan wax ka barto. He doesnt study dadka muranka as he says waxba beesha looma kordhin kare murankisa

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha they wanted siyad out because he gave bah dubays and millions of bah dubays a 'hope' to become something like my father and be freed from their elites, manta wax baan ku noqday, hadusan sida samayeen, manta ma jireen or millions of somalis who benefited from it. They just wanted to make it 'elite' linage system(beelaha wax haysto) capitalism model while we rural people continue living eating dhagax and being called for wars to die a for a nation that wants in aan noolan.

My awooweyaal refused this from the kingdom of majerteniya and relocated to nugaal, kama yeelayo buu yiri abahay no other idiot this stupid out-dated policy, waxay keeni karta in meesha lagu kala tago sidu bah dubays ka kacay 200 years, the whole nation ayaa sidasi uu kala kacayso. My father never spoke to abdillahi yusuf illa dawlad rasmi somalia ka dhalato, he said he was the one that fuelling this angry reer abdulle, reer hersi, iyo kuwasi inay wax noqdan then he convinced isaaq to do the same angry about cidagale iyo gashinkasi wax noqdan siday uu arkan weeye and why cidagale hamar jogga way og yihin iyaguna. My dad said siyad wasnt changing the policy to beelaha wax haysto it wud be against the whole principle of communism to empower the farmer, nomad, coastal person, not the URBAN elite who were in hamar angry all these badiye ppl were getting investment into skills, training, and selected for positions. Even sacad waa ka dhadhiciyay also losing power among hawiye elites. They only disagreed on who will rule aideed-abdillahi-isaaq at the time not the fact this siyad who dare empower their la haystes way ka midoowbeen till this day many ppl in isaaq, mj, hg gudahooda isma arki karan they just act like there is nothing wrong but its FACADE.

PS - according to my father when he saw abdillahi in libya he was arguing 'siyad wants reer diini and his elite to rule' and jahilka laga soo saaro beelaha kale si uu dalka uu si haysto, but my dad said ana wax ku noqonayo maxaa ka galay, war isagu muu beelaha kale marehan uu dhiibo talada si loo muujiyo inay danaha tahay hanti wadaag mise uu raba marehan elite iyo danawadaag for beelaha kale si elitekooda loo babiciyo si uu iska haysto 500 years oo ma haystan tarikh markasi umadasi is what he meant abdillahi. Which is dangerous so he was conservative preserving history in a way where-as siyad was liberal only for other clans but conservative for his clan not allowing other marehan to join this shit fest kkkk. I dont want us to become wax qaawan who dont their history as person or clan in america and they all think their some american which isnt a person kkkk waa wax loo abuuray after royal house was kicked out. So we need our royalty, elite, but how we balance it for danaha nomadska, beerealayda, fishermen the actual under-class will be interesting. Maybe reer miyi-reer magaal need to have quota system in their party for position to ensure not only elite clans eat and not only rural parties eat like socialism did

Thats why I said we need elites to have party, socialist to have party, its divided nation about this matter and put it to the votes who wins the leadership. I am communist in some areas but conservative in ensuring elite and our leadership dont die who have dhaxal of centuries of knowledge

 

[Farjano-Walad]

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[DR OSMAN]

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I want to throw our your 'sayid' idealogy, that's all, I assume since u created it, you gotta make you tanasul. It's your idea identity politics, somalinimo against colonizers. Will u tanasul or u scared your 'legacy' won't remain? dano lee dahay miyaa?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I want to throw our your 'sayid' idealogy, that's all, I assume since u created it, you gotta make you tanasul. It's your idea identity politics, somalinimo against colonizers. Will u tanasul or u scared your 'legacy' won't remain? dano lee dahay miyaa?

Dr osman we will not get rid of it, it is useful to us, unlike you we have 5300 Km border in Ogadeniya and we fight with non somalis pagans, gallo, other races, we need that ideology as backup just in case, we need it like the UK used the anglo saxon card in world war 2 to get support from USA, Canada, Australia, kiwi etc,

t serves me well since King wiil waal the great karbashed oromo and hababshi invaders centuries ago, it was sued by ahmed gurey, by sayidka,

besides, naked reservation people as you call them need a software to run, and we cannot allow Mj software to take over,. it must be an OG software that owns and runs these people

they dont have history, so we filled their history, this is why all the 6 statues in 1960 were all Absame,

notice how much they had Absame but still my statues fly high in their cities, their history, their heroes are all me, anaga Absame, this is what we want,

its like how many commonwealth nations still have the statues of famous english conquerors who did ethnic cleansing on them, on their currency,

we must own the software of ideology

notice how even the first MJ leadership of somalia in 1960 deep down hated OG but were froced to erect Absaem man and woman statues,

they sang famous poetry by our poets, and told famous historian figures like the somali gulliver cigaal shided another Og man, named schools and roads in the capital after famous kings, warriors, even one female hawo tako, raage ugaas, wamaan bulxaan, king wiil waal etc

 

[DR OSMAN]

Dr osman we will not get rid of it, it is useful to us, unlike you we have 5300 Km border in Ogadeniya and we fight with non somalis pagans, gallo, other races, we need that ideology as backup just in case, we need it like the UK used the anglo saxon card in world war 2 to get support from USA, Canada, Australia, kiwi etc,

t serves me well since King wiil waal the great karbashed oromo and hababshi invaders centuries ago, it was sued by ahmed gurey, by sayidka,

besides, naked reservation people as you call them need a software to run, and we cannot allow Mj software to take over,. it must be an OG software that owns and runs these people

they dont have history, so we filled their history, this is why all the 6 statues in 1960 were all Absame,

notice how much they had Absame but still my statues fly high in their cities, their history, their heroes are all me, anaga Absame, this is what we want,

its like how many commonwealth nations still have the statues of famous english conquerors who did ethnic cleansing on them, on their currency,

we must own the software of ideology

notice how even the first MJ leadership of somalia in 1960 deep down hated OG but were froced to erect Absaem man and woman statues,

they sang famous poetry by our poets, and told famous historian figures like the somali gulliver cigaal shided another Og man, named schools and roads in the capital after famous kings, warriors, even one female hawo tako, raage ugaas, wamaan bulxaan, king wiil waal etc

So I am trying to put my 'MJ software' in. You fight back and put in 'Somalinimo' ba kow ah and 'sade' throws in the 'abbe siyad' and empowers rural class while dismpowering 'historical aborigines' so they come out as china people saying HAIL SADE AND FOUNDER OF NEW NATION IN THE SPIRIT OF NUUR MUJAHID AND AHMED GUREY, as siyad read that shit and wanted that vision for the nation, one of Marehan 'heroics' against 'greedy elites in somali sub-clans' and how he freed their 'la haystes' and shud worship him, ironically he never allowed his own la hayste(smaller clans and rural folks be empowered) this ensures his house is 'top down strong) while the rest of the clans(bottom up strong and top weak) meaning he can control TOP part and injected his HEROIC MAREHANISM.

As kab iyo lax lets have one agreement, lets throw him n lock him into 'GALMUDUG' so he is surrounded by the aborigines who will look at him as an 'enemy' darod all the time kkkk. While you grab the reer gedo, their ruling class is based in abudwaq, close the border so no reer abudwaq can create a new 'operation sade' colony, he wants to expand also. Dhulbahante is 'confused' but his coming back to Harti as Harti waa inu tashda niyahow. Warsangeli are needed @KS3 iyagu wax ba ka haray dadyowgooda wax garanayo but their mainly in arabia my dad said now. U always divide harti and take away dhulbahante for your causes, we wont allow harti divided again, so don't waste your time. Your using kacaan policies it's old, we see it coming, you need game plan.

Rather then we war, horta kuwani haloo heeshiyo oo qaawan, cuz we are in state of the aborigine reservations today when u see the nation, he has locked into his GAME PARK, thats why none of us surviving and winning our policies

 

[Farjano-Walad]

So I am trying to put my 'MJ software' in. You fight back and put in 'Somalinimo' ba kow ah and 'sade' throws in the 'abbe siyad' and empowers rural class while dismpowering 'historical aborigines' so they come out as china people saying HAIL SADE AND FOUNDER OF NEW NATION IN THE SPIRIT OF NUUR MUJAHID AND AHMED GUREY, as siyad read that shit and wanted that vision for the nation, one of Marehan 'heroics' against 'greedy elites in somali sub-clans' and how he freed their 'la haystes' and shud worship him, ironically he never allowed his own la hayste(smaller clans and rural folks be empowered) this ensures his house is 'top down strong) while the rest of the clans(bottom up strong and top weak) meaning he can control TOP part and injected his HEROIC MAREHANISM.

As kab iyo lax lets have one agreement, lets throw him n lock him into 'GALMUDUG' so he is surrounded by the aborigines who will look at him as an 'enemy' darod all the time kkkk. While you grab the reer gedo, their ruling class is based in abudwaq, close the border so no reer abudwaq can create a new 'operation sade' colony, he wants to expand also. Dhulbahante is 'confused' but his coming back to Harti as Harti waa inu tashda niyahow. Warsangeli are needed @KS3 iyagu wax ba ka haray dadyowgooda wax garanayo but their mainly in arabia my dad said now

you wish to use Mj software, that si too much resistance, people will resent yuo, its 1 clan, for me i took soemthing they will not fight back against, somalinimo, they all speak somali after all,

its like how germany the european card and today she rules europe, no polish, or Slovak or denish can hate European, EU, sicne they are all Europeans,

so the germans took control of Europe with out firing a shot, the british wish to create anti european feelings to weakne germany and france, UK doesn't want a united Europe, abut a fracture she can control,

people will resist Mj softeare, but Ogaden figured out they cannot resits against islam, somalinimo, since they are already both,

you want to write history, but the weakness Mj also has is OG/Absame were using this card in 1600s, 1700s, Absame was awake before other soamlis, Mj woke up in late 1800s and said how shit OG is eating all the lands, i too must expand, it was too late since somalis started to wake up years after Mj, well most not all of them, some woke up in 1960

so mj was slightly late to the game, by then Og had already set the rules and standards and somalinimo and was using them as foot soldiers to karbash the white men all over the horn,

ask many people why they hate federalism, they will say its an Mj idea, but why did OG take upon it and saw an opportunity? its because OG created a federal region./state already in 1990 in DDS, when ahmaar fell, OG worked with tigra and federalised the country, OG created the prison many clans are in today in DDS, they created 9 gobals, 52 degmos and cut off the balls of many claims like those who said we own the hawd had over night just 1 degmo kkk

also OG in kenya were familiarity with federal structure where each governor in kenya is pretty much federated, MJ then claims he created federalism but Mj deep down knows he copied kenya and Ethiopia federal ideology which OG was already preview to

Mj stole the idea of federalism from neighbouring countries that OG has massive influence in but instead of keeping quite he boasted and shouted,

that is not how you spread ideas, MJ kept saying we are fathers of federalism, due to many hating them for using habashi anything federal bad ideas became associated with cuqdad for MJ

what Mj should have done was to bribe certain important men from each major clan to call for federalism whilst they pulled the strings,

did you see OG boast how they created a federal state in 1990 in DDS and literally politically inprisoned many clans, which gave OG a massive monopoly on power?

because we do things under cover, we never boasted we created somalinimo, we just let it run,

that is why yuor not so good at building softeare, even harti-nimo is fake, its in relaity osman muxamuud,

ask a 5 year old kid in Ogadeniya what the land is called, he will say somalida Ogadeniya, kkkk, why? because ever OG sub clan has had turns running as president, not just one sub clan, makahil, bah gerri, cabdalla, cawlyahan etc, in puntland its fake, its a muxamuud salebaan project and others are kept under, kkkk

thus even putnladn-nimo will not survive with out one sub clan, others deep down hate it , but in DDS ONLF will always be there due to every sub clan of OG having a slice of the cake

 

[DR OSMAN]

you wish to use Mj software, that si too much resistance, people will resent yuo, its 1 clan, for me i took soemthing they will not fight back against, somalinimo, they all speak somali after all,

its like how germany the european card and today she rules europe, no polish, or Slovak or denish can hate European, EU, sicne they are all Europeans,

so the germans took control of Europe with out firing a shot, the british wish to create anti european feelings to weakne germany and france, UK doesn't want a united Europe, abut a fracture she can control,

people will resist Mj softeare, but Ogaden figured out they cannot resits against islam, somalinimo, since they are already both,

you want to write history, but the weakness Mj also has is OG/Absame were using this card in 1600s, 1700s, Absame was awake before other soamlis, Mj woke up in late 1800s and said how shit OG is eating all the lands, i too must expand, it was too late since somalis started to wake up years after Mj, well most not all of them, some woke up in 1960

so mj was slightly late to the game, by then Og had already set the rules and standards and somalinimo and was using them as foot soldiers to karbash the white men all over the horn,

ask many people why they hate federalism, they will say its an Mj idea, but why did OG take upon it and saw an opportunity? its because OG created a federal region./state already in 1990 in DDS, when ahmaar fell, OG worked with tigra and federalised the country, OG created the prison many clans are in today in DDS, they created 9 gobals, 52 degmos and cut off the balls of many claims like those who said we own the hawd had over night just 1 degmo kkk

also OG in kenya were familiarity with federal structure where each governor in kenya is pretty much federated, MJ then claims he created federalism but Mj deep down knows he copied kenya and Ethiopia federal ideology which OG was already preview to

Mj stole the idea of federalism from neighbouring countries that OG has massive influence in but instead of keeping quite he boasted and shouted,

that is not how you spread ideas, MJ kept saying we are fathers of federalism, due to many hating them for using habashi anything federal bad ideas became associated with cuqdad for MJ

what Mj should have done was to bribe certain important men from each major clan to call for federalism whilst they pulled the strings,

did you see OG boast how they created a federal state in 1990 in DDS and literally politically inprisoned many clans, which gave OG a massive monopoly on power?

because we do things under cover, we never boasted we created somalinimo, we just let it run,

that is why yuor not so good at building softeare, even harti-nimo is fake, its in relaity osman muxamuud,

ask a 5 year old kid in Ogadeniya what the land is called, he will say somalida Ogadeniya, kkkk, why? because ever OG sub clan has had turns running as president, not just one sub clan, makahil, bah gerri, cabdalla, cawlyahan etc, in puntland its fake, its a muxamuud salebaan project and others are kept under, kkkk

thus even putnladn-nimo will not survive with out one sub clan, others deep down hate it , but in DDS ONLF will always be there due to every sub clan of OG having a slice of the cake

Based on the history of Majerten we are not looking for subjects in hawiye, that is garbage and childish. Keenadiid chose a 'strategic' ally the 'sacad' as he wanted them to bring in HG under his 'axis' for what purposes possibly another Kingdom deal due to his disagreements with King Osman, he rushed to 'sacad' before you grabbed him into Somali crap that still lasts. King Osman just wanted his Bari-Nugaal Axis, he wasn't interested in a state with the colony in the south and I don't think Keenadiid was either.

They were trying to fight each other so Keenadiid gets Bosaso To Beletwayn 'axis' while Boqor Osman was keeping him 'away' in 'defensive' mode, because the Boqor never made 'advances' towards Keenadiid, he wasn't looking for more 'territory. Then your Sayid strategically 'tore' into Harti and sliced up Dhulbahante as your internal 'agent' to fight Majerteniya Kingdom so we either collapse or negiotate because u couldn't secure 'berbera port' due the british involvement helping the 'aboriginal' reserves over there.

But in all honesty both got their kingdom deals keenadiid/boqor osman and if it wasn't for their disagreement would've been recognized states like other kingdoms in the region. Just like PL doesn't join 'hamar' now which has reverted back to it's old colonial status 'beesha calamka, amisom, etc'. History repeats itself because the 'territory' and 'people' are still the same just the 'colony' changes over time due to politics internally or geopolitically.

I will admit your 'legacy' won and the Horse of Sayid is in Hamar while Boqor Osman/Keenadiid are known but their not spoken about other then by Puntites and our 'recognition' papers of sultanates, it doesn't live in the hearts and souls of Somali people like your 'identity' politics does. U won the history, I don't doubt that. All govts in Somalia built it's philosophy from 'Sayid'.

This is where Majerten realized we needed 'alliance' and we played politics only selecting who is the more reliable partner and 'Hiraab' was even though he was in a colony but it was 'internal kingdom' not 'recognized' because 'abgaal' ma 'yaqano' siyasad, so we saw an 'opportunity' to inject a bit of capacity there plus we didn't 'view' him as a threat due to the 'farming' conditions over there 'taming' it's subjects to settlements and barwaaqo, while we had our 'raw dhagax eating' niggas sitting hard in the north on a 700 KM axis always being 'qabiili' kkkkk, that's why my father always said he was taken back to 'nugaal' on holidays to 'learn his identity' as majerten first and those as 'la haystes' of 'sayidka' and we couldn't 'get that out of their mind' and therefore started 'singing' with them but doing our majerten policies.

Only our coastal-urban MJ actually liked them genuinely ama kuwa la koreen, but not the 90% who came in 1960 who were still sitting in miyiga felt defeated that we lost our nation state status but we adjusted to it, my dad quickly 'slipped' into this 'no qabiil or identity' city which he found hard at first but adjusted he said to keep 'dual identities' similar to scottish ppl who know their clan identity but their national identity, where-as they only knew their national identity the southerner ama the shit you created for them 'somalia' kkkki it's based of sayid nonsense. It's gotta to go identity politics doesn't work, I don't see him as Somali in all honesty, im an individual niyahow, I just care my family-extended family-bah dubays, I don't even really think beyond that due to barre legacy injection into rural class which quite vicious it wud make me 'fight' with my own clan and call em 'kacaan diid' kkk while they reply 'he is trying to colonize us' while protect his 'elite' sub clans.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha it's an open zoo like our Boqor Osman-Sultan keenadiid-Sayid saw in Somalia. It's identical to how they saw it niyahow. South 'colony' under 'beesha calaamka' with 'amisom'. GM - State-less and un-governed clans. PL a harti govt(it was split before as makhir/majerteniya/dhulbahante joing somali movement U CREATED). SL - Administration but no 'intellectual capacity' behind it and still crying for the 'queen to cover him' as 'darod' inspired Somalia was too brutal politics, isagu wuxu s oo galay dalka as indian waxba ma yaqan, all commonwealth did that, hadu bartay in-yar during the 60-91 era and he benefited a-lot from 'siyad' era as he replicates 'marehan idealogy'.

Even his democracy looks totally 'undesigned' no intellectual capacity behind it. I fear for them repeating the same mistake as 60, coming after the nation settled, wallahi they will get swallowed up into 'waa lagu wasi' kkkk and he will say' bila shurud' when we tell him 'east germany model ku sugayso' ama isdabool.

PS - Dhulbahante wants to bring them in but last time wasn't prepared for the 'brutality' in the 60s, this time he is advising them, that is why dhulbahante switched into MOD immediately marku arkay 'wax qaawan' ba tahe isaaq. He may guide them now tho as he has access into PL and Hamar to get better deal way uu naxaristan for some reason, we cud give a f*ck wallahi, we throw niggas anagu into badda like human trafficking, we will do organ trade too for those bodies lying there, ma naxno in that aspect as MJ, as our survival is our priority, we don't sit there thinking of others as we have defence policy after the 'debacle' of colonials

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha I will cut a long story short we know where to end ur influence all clans does. It's that ethiopian opening, marehan uses it, and so does majerten, if u won't take advantage, we will. U have stronger case as you actually become more significant priority wise as that cud change MJ/MX policies to adjust to the new regional axis till then keep crying. Kenyan ogaden way tashdeen, your ethiopian ones are still divided, we know your story.

We got Harti brothers over there who keep a n eye on you hadad 'dhaqdhaq' somaliyeed wadid cuz we 'concerned' of your axis and the effect it can have politically ethio/og pact on security, politics, trade of all Somali clans as we are not seeking your futo for 'ku soo haadir ogaden' and become a 'vassal' of yours, while PL swallows the GM/Beletwayn river vassal. Harti North are un-decided except warsangeli. Dhulos are divided. JL is sealed to kenyan ogadens