Puntites/Makhir/SSC Come In. PL Election Predictions

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
@DR OSMAN the Osman Mohamud will definitely not vote for Deni. They still suspect him to be a puppet for outside(of the clan parties) like Aaran-Jaan.

Omar Mohamud will also not vote for him considering how he disrespected the Islaan and Qabiils decision in the last federal parliamentary selections.
My friend and I were speaking to a Mudug Puntland MP last summer. He went on a tangent criticizing Deni and how he's forming an opposition against him. A few weeks later I saw him in pictures with Deni. So the moral of the story is, these people don't vote based on tribal interest, they vote on self interest and their word is completely meaningless.
 

Hamzza

VIP
@Hamzza the only thing the omar mahmoud bloc could be corrupted on by the SFG puppet who will be some personal interest guy the SFG will use to sign things that put federalism into jepordy, the only thing they might bait u guys with is that HSM will approve the 3G road if u vote for their puppet. I hope u guys realize that SSC being free is far more important then a project and the 3G road will be brought in either thru 'isku tashi' like garacad or we will pursue african development bank that the president has gone rogue and on personal interest. He doesn't hold the MONEY hamza only the 'signature' remember that. We will show HSM promised to sign it at the garacad opening to African development bank and show how he has gone rogue again proving he cannot hold deals which will effect SFG risk assessment globally
No one in North Mudug thinks Culusow will contribute to the building of the 3G road. we will build it for ourselves inshallah with iskutashi. SSC being free and the dignity of the clan returning is indeed more important than a road we would have anyway built with iskutashi no matter how long it takes. Reer Mudug are not politically active right now, they are more concentrated on development.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
No one in North Mudug thinks Culusow will contribute to the building of the 3G road. we will build it for ourselves inshallah with iskutashi. SSC being free and the dignity of the clan returning is indeed more important than a road we would have anyway built with iskutashi no matter how long it takes. Reer Mudug are not politically active right now, they are more concentrated on development.

Everyone is focused on development, ppl prefer a bribe plus a post plus a mashruc for its region, that's usually the goal of most politicians when selecting a leader.
 
Deni the builder for another term. A traitor sponsored by the bunker administration wont get anywhere as usual. Faroole and his Aaran shaydaan can't be trusted. They are neck deep in idoor suqaar as usual. Traitor Diyano as well can't be trusted.
 
I honestly wish we'd get a politician that didn't grow up in the South and has open hardcore policy for independence. Only time will tell.
 
It is between Deni, Asad, and Jabiye, as I do not see other potential candidates. Of those trio, in the current climate, my first choice would be Asad even with his foreign associations, with Deni being a second best.

Deni exceeded all expectations in terms of development, his handling of the SSC conflict, taking a backseat, and passing the baton to Ahmed Karaash, Shancad, and Garaado to lead. With that, he has shown brilliant gamesmanship, breaking away from his erstwhile, amateurish brinkmanship in:
a) Undermining Issimo,
b) Abusing his position by usurping Fed. MPs selection process,
c) Riding two horses at once - running for Fed. position whilst still claiming PL's, which is unconstitutional, illegal, if politically dangerous (I do not think it has ever been attempted, let alone done (And I am aware of the argument some field re ina Yey, which is untrue) ), and
d) Dealing with ilma Cisman Diyaano.

Of course, credit goes to Deni for being bold in augmenting elections.

Jabiye is an unknown commodity from the Diaspora, comes across as a decent man, yet a bit erratic, if belonging to the mile high club.
 
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Hamzza

VIP
It is between Deni, Asad, and Jabiye, as I do not see other potential candidates.
Doesn't this violate the balance of power in Puntland?

From Sadexda Mohamud Saleban to Sadexda Cusmaan Maxamuud lool.

I heard Deni is planning to make Puntland official parties Five instead of the intended three, to give the other stakeholders who didn't initially buy into the multiparty system a second chance.
 
Doesn't this violate the balance of power in Puntland?

From Sadexda Mohamud Saleban to Sadexda Cusmaan Maxamuud lool.
Oh that is just rubbish only circulated when one fails to garner enough support to be elected, and propagated by clueless Diaspora based, arm-chair political commentators.

I heard Deni is planning to make Puntland official parties Five instead of the intended three, to give the other stakeholders who didn't initially buy into the multiparty system a second chance.
Deni could recommend it, and I think it is a good idea, albeit would prefer no limitations as to the number, but strict criterion to guide party formation, and it could only happen as and when the Parliament approves it.
 

Libaax-Joore

Beesha haplogroup e-by8081
VIP
Yes, Ilma Diyaano were in the wrong if we think from a real governance perspective. But you know Puntland is built on tribal lines and every clan has its weapons. Osman Mohamud(not only Bahdir) saw Deni with Aaran-Jaan backing attacking PsF as Isse Mohamud coming for their equipments and fundings.
Ilmo diyaano Are cartel they should be disarmed and destroyed… also did you know subclan subclan deni and diyaano are closer to each other than we are me and ditoore… puntland should move from this clan system and move into democratic system 1p1v…. Dugsi maleh qabyaladu wexe dhumeso moyaane
 

Hamzza

VIP
Ilmo diyaano Are cartel they should be disarmed and destroyed… also did you know subclan subclan deni and diyaano are closer to each other than we are me and ditoore… puntland should move from this clan system and move into democratic system 1p1v…. Dugsi maleh qabyaladu wexe dhumeso moyaane
I agree bro, we need to move on from this qabyaalad but let's be realistic sxb. We are not robots. Are we?

Also, if I'm not mistaken you were an ardent Diyaano supporter during those days and used to karbaash Deni for attacking psf.
 

Libaax-Joore

Beesha haplogroup e-by8081
VIP
It is between Deni, Asad, and Jabiye, as I do not see other potential candidates. Of those trio, in the current climate, my first choice would be Asad even with his foreign associations, with Deni being a second best.

Deni exceeded all expectations in terms of development, his handling of the SSC conflict, taking a backseat, and passing the baton to Ahmed Karaash, Shancad, and Garaado to lead. With that, he has shown brilliant gamesmanship, breaking away from his erstwhile, amateurish brinkmanship in:
a) Undermining Issimo,
b) Abusing his position by usurping Fed. MPs selection process,
c) Riding two horses at once - running for Fed. position whilst still claiming PL's, which is unconstitutional, illegal, if politically dangerous (I do not think it has ever been attempted, let alone done (And I am aware of the argument some field re ina Yey, which is untrue) ), and
d) Dealing with ilma Cisman Diyaano.

Of course, credit goes to Deni for being bold in augmenting elections.

Jabiye is an unknown commodity from the Diaspora, comes across as a decent man, yet a bit erratic, if belonging to the mile high club.
I was big asad diyaano supporter even 2019 I was in bosaso supporting him , i became anti diyaano when they sided with xarmaajo and undermine thier closes cousin xurmadle said abdullahi dani radiyallahu anhu 🀑 beesha bah Dir unuka moye cidkale wax cuneso majirto not even other bah diroble subclan πŸ˜‚
I agree bro, we need to move on from this qabyaalad but let's be realistic sxb. We are not robots. Are we?

Also, if I'm not mistaken you were an ardent Diyaano supporter during those days and used to karbaash Deni for attacking psf.
Every since deni was elected I was supporter of him , but I was against government trying to disarm ilmo diyano hubka wa hub beesha bah Dir iyo ilmo diyaano ,,, later I find out ilmo diyano were xarmaajo puppet…
 

Calaami

Garaadka Guud ee Beesha Calaamka
Doesn't this violate the balance of power in Puntland?

From Sadexda Mohamud Saleban to Sadexda Cusmaan Maxamuud lool.

I heard Deni is planning to make Puntland official parties Five instead of the intended three, to give the other stakeholders who didn't initially buy into the multiparty system a second chance.
In truth the whole triumvirate thing is nonsense peddled by diaspora. Ilkajir, a Warsangeli man, was seen as the man to beat in 2009. He lost because he couldn’t clinch the Dhulbahante vote, he had most of Majeerteen behind him.

Now with Pan-Hartism popular we may see a lot of different people make it to later rounds. But the Dhulbahante vote is critical and both Faroole n Gaas enjoyed that in their races.
 
@π’‹π’–π’†π’”π’–π’•π’ˆ here me and family member supporting asad cisman diyano 2019 election
Reer Diyaano are true reer PL through and through despite their shortcomings. The old man Cismaan Diyaano was an old guard of SSDF, later sided with Cadde, and hard ally of ina Yey. You can not buy that legacy. Reer Faroole, just like Gaas are opportunists, loyalist late comers only in politics for fortunes, at least that is how I see them, and could be wrong.

I never understood why Farmaajo is popular in PL?
 
In truth the whole triumvirate thing is nonsense peddled by diaspora. Ilkajir, a Warsangeli man, was seen as the man to beat in 2009. He lost because he couldn’t clinch the Dhulbahante vote, he had most of Majeerteen behind him.

Now with Pan-Hartism popular we may see a lot of different people make it to later rounds. But the Dhulbahante vote is critical and both Faroole n Gaas enjoyed that in their races.
The same was true for Maxamed Cabdi Xaashi, who secured Bari & Mudug, but could not garner a few votes from SSC communities.
 

Calaami

Garaadka Guud ee Beesha Calaamka
Reer Diyaano are true reer PL through and through despite their shortcomings. The old man Cismaan Diyaano was an old guard of SSDF, later sided with Cadde, and hard ally of ina Yey. You can not buy that legacy. Reer Faroole, just like Gaas are opportunists, loyalist late comers only in politics for fortunes, at least that is how I see them, and could be wrong.

I never understood why Farmaajo is popular in PL?
This is valid. I think Reer Faroole should’ve taken a step away from politics after the pitiful showing in their home deegaan Eyl during the pilot elections. Now he sends his son to go bash Deni in interviews, attacks Deni 24/7 in GO (ironic cus GO loved Deni not long ago), and use GO to spin false security narratives about PL. Whatever goodwill that family had, they stepped all over it.
 
This is valid. I think Reer Faroole should’ve taken a step away from politics after the pitiful showing in their home deegaan Eyl during the pilot elections. Now he sends his son to go bash Deni in interviews, attacks Deni 24/7 in GO (ironic cus GO loved Deni not long ago), and use GO to spin false security narratives about PL. Whatever goodwill that family had, they stepped all over it.
Agreed, then again, GO started off to decapitate Cadde after he fired Faroole & Xaabsade. Maxamed Faroole is compromised, fabricates stories, and even sides with the Fed. gov't, and SL to win one over Deni. I recall he even drafted a glowing news report upping Da'ish mountaineers to fault Gaas. I do not even want to bring up his analyses of, and Faroole Sr's reflections on, the tragic Majiyahan conflict. That type of obtuse politics never leads to a good ending.
 
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