Project Urano: New documentary released about toxic waste dump by Ali Mahdi

[$hadow]

they condemned their own people for an eternity of lethal cancerous toxic poison, this is what happens when you have uneducated broke ass greedy people leading.

Siad Barre aun said it best

He is so right

Funny to me how these filthy b..oons are still praising the biggest scumbag to come out of somalia whilst simultaneously passing judgment on others. Incase your forgot Barre is responsible for the genocide of over 100 thousand somalis and the collapse of the entire country due his pathetic greed, but here you lot are still worshipping and singing praise of him, even worse trying to convince sane somalis your qabilism is somehow wadanimo.

Now days I just laugh when I see you gaajo b.oons crying about kdf shelling your folk in gedo, you openly side with the same xabashi that was used to level mogadishu, you praise and worship scum like barre - karma is b.itch and gedo b..oons will inshallah continue to pay for their sins.

 

[Mozart]

You b.oons are shameless for constantly repeating the same lies.

Below is ~ an hour long interview of cali mahdi being asked various questions including the myth and lies of him authorising the dumping of toxic waste into somali waters.

Anyone with common sense can deduce no criminal let alone mafia would pay or seek permission from anyone/country who had no navy or control over its air space/waters.

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And apparently the Italian government has conducted its own investigation and found the claims to be false, Mahdi also claims to counter sue for these ridiculous lies against him - both are things that can be verified easily and these bots only prefer to stick to usual tactics of character assassinations.

looool I just watched from the bit you linked and it's clear as day that he's lieing. How does he know that it was even dumped ? lol he signed off on it and then uses the lack of a naval/army force as an excuse. He acknowledges that it happened and then gives an excuse ; sounds like a guilty person. Also, he himself in that video goes against you and says he was responsible for the seas at that time.

 

[$hadow]

So sad, where exactly where these toxic waste dumped? We need to locate and safely remove them and have the companies responsible be tried and hopefully compensate Somalia for damages.

@Jiron - This street begger knows full well this is nothing but a lie but he acts oblivious just to further these b..oons hateful lies, I don't know how this nigga can even hate on mudulood who has been feeding and clothing his shameless begging folk

 

[$hadow]

looool I just watched from the bit you linked and it's clear as day that he's lieing. How does he know that it was even dumped ? lol he signed off on it and then uses the lack of a naval/army force as an excuse. He acknowledges that it happened and then gives an excuse ; sounds like a guilty person. Also, he himself in that video goes against you and says he was responsible for the seas at that time.

No offence but this has to be the dumbest response, you clearly didn't watch or you simply don't speak somali.

I don't think this was even worth a response, he clearly states he didn't have control over navy/air space and also at no point did he make excuses.

He further go on to say he has offical report from the Italian government after they've conducted their own investigation.

 

[Mozart]

No offence but this has to be the dumbest response, you clearly didn't watch or you simply don't speak somali.

I don't think this was even worth a response, he clearly states he didn't have control over navy/air space and also at no point did he make excuses.

He further go on to say he has offical report from the Italian government after they've conducted their own investigation.

He rubbishes the claims and blames 2 men lol it was greater than just 2 random men

The green party presented copies of the papers he signed to the European parliament. It was 10million tonnes of waste for $80m . At the time, he refused to discuss the issue and the italian parliament confirmed the allegations - so what papers is he on about ?

So yes, he's using the fact that there was no navy as an excuse.

 

[Kulmiye]

@Jiron - This street begger knows full well this is nothing but a lie but he acts oblivious just to further these b..oons hateful lies, I don't know how this nigga can even hate on mudulood who has been feeding and clothing his shameless begging folk

He is mx, what did you expect?

 

[$hadow]

He rubbishes the claims and blames 2 men lol it was greater than just 2 random men

The green party presented copies of the papers he signed to the European parliament. It was 10million tonnes of waste for $80m . At the time, he refused to discuss the issue and the italian parliament confirmed the allegations - so what papers is he on about ?

So yes, he's using the fact that there was no navy as an excuse.

No excuse was made - he simply told ret@rd somalis like yourself to exercise common sense, would a criminal underground mafia pay some guy in somalia who didn't even have control of mogadishu let alone a whole country.

He mentioned the two guys because that where the rumour originated, he also stated that the Italian government conducted their own investigation and found the claims to be false which you oddly didn't wanna address.

 

[Kulmiye]

He rubbishes the claims and blames 2 men lol it was greater than just 2 random men

The green party presented copies of the papers he signed to the European parliament. It was 10million tonnes of waste for $80m . At the time, he refused to discuss the issue and the italian parliament confirmed the allegations - so what papers is he on about ?

So yes, he's using the fact that there was no navy as an excuse.

No they (green party) didn't present any documents or other shit, otherwise he wouldve been found guilty, he says in the video that "If there was nuclear waste dumped why would they pay me money, since they couldve done it for free its not like I had a navy or airforce to really stop them from dumping the alleged waste in Bari and other parts of the country".

Ofcourse I dont expect any form of decency or honesty from you folk. Since being a lying bottomfeeder is the first nature of you quulle rats.

 

[Mozart]

No excuse was made - he simply told ret@rd somalis like yourself to exercise common sense, would a criminal underground mafia pay some guy in somalia who didn't even have control of mogadishu let alone a whole country.

He mentioned the two guys because that where the rumour originated, he also stated that the Italian government conducted their own investigation and found the claims to be false which you oddly didn't wanna address.

lol you're incredibly dense. I did address the findings of the Italian parliament ; they confirmed many of the allegations were true. If European governments have evidence of the papers he signed why would I believe a warlord ? Read the famous Times article from 2005 on this issue.

Common sense is seeing investigations were done, he refused to cooperate at the time and only now is when he wishes to speak of it and goes against what independent organisations have found.

You have the UN, the European parliament, the italian partliament and the UNEP going against what he said and you believe him. Who is the stupid one here then ?

 

[Mozart]

No they (green party) didn't present any documents or other shit, otherwise he wouldve been found guilty, he says in the video that "If there was nuclear waste dumped why would they pay me money, since they couldve done it for free its not like I had a navy or airforce to really stop them from dumping the alleged waste in Bari and other parts of the country".

Ofcourse I dont expect any form of decency or honesty from you folk. Since being a lying bottomfeeder is the first nature of you quulle rats.

Italian press and their parliament have confirmed the papers. He refused to cooperate with them at the time and who exactly was supposed to find him guilty ? The italian mafia was also informed which can explain why the sought him as the Zoom4li counterpart. Here's an excerpt from Helmut Sorge who worked on this issue 2 years ago, explaining some of what happened :

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[Jiron]

@Jiron - This street begger knows full well this is nothing but a lie but he acts oblivious just to further these b..oons hateful lies, I don't know how this nigga can even hate on mudulood who has been feeding and clothing his shameless begging folk

if it’s a lie than it’s great news sxb because having nuclear waste in our shores will affect all of us for generations

 

[Kulmiye]

Italian press and their parliament have confirmed the papers. He refused to cooperate with them at the time and who exactly was supposed to find him guilty ? The italian mafia was also informed which can explain why the sought him as the Zoom4li counterpart. Here's an excerpt from Helmut Sorge who worked on this issue 2 years ago, explaining some of what happened :

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What papers? So you are saying now that the Italian parliament didnt find him guilty? But they confirmed papers that indicate the president being guilty, and they dropped everything because the guy who is allegedly guilty refused to cooperate.

Ghetto logic at its finest.

There was no waste dumping as long as there is no evidence of the alleged nuclear waste no amount of fake exerts from unrelated cases is gonna prove that. Its not like 10 000kg vanishes in the air, that amount of radiactive waste can be detected from thousands of km away. To find those barrels would be no trick at all. Actually without propper facilities the road between Garowe and Bosaso would be uninhabitable wasteland by now. Not a booming trade route.

 

[Kulmiye]

Italian press and their parliament have confirmed the papers. He refused to cooperate with them at the time and who exactly was supposed to find him guilty ? The italian mafia was also informed which can explain why the sought him as the Zoom4li counterpart. Here's an excerpt from Helmut Sorge who worked on this issue 2 years ago, explaining some of what happened :

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Fishing vessels owned by Darods and waste buried in Darood lands Im smelling fkd nuke. Kkkk Im starting to wish that this waste dumping was true.

Would you be so kind and give me the link to the full article.

 

[Mozart]

What papers? So you are saying now that the Italian parliament didnt find him guilty? But they confirmed papers that indicate the president being guilty, and they dropped everything because the guy who is allegedly guilty refused to cooperate.

lol you're just a dumb guy. Only on Somalispot would some dude support a warlord's words over established researchers and entities. I asked who exactly was supposed to try him and you've responded with drivel. Ali Mahdi and Nur Elmy Osman claimed to be part of a government, it's essentially a loophole :

"The difficulty in working out whether the deal is illegal stems from
loopholes that riddle the rules governing waste exports from Europe. The
1989 Basel Convention on Hazardous Wastes allows waste to be exported to
the Third World so long as exporting and importing governments approve the
trade. Switzerland, which has ratified the convention, can legally ship
waste to Somalia providing it deals with the Somali government. The problem
is that the UN has recognised no government in Somalia since January 1991."

It's clear you support him due to tribe. I think he was responsible,, you don't ; there isn't any point going back and forth.

 

[repo]

If it was buried under the Garowe-Bosaso road, it means it was under Siad Barre for that's when it was constructed in 1988.

 

[Mozart]

Fishing vessels owned by Darods and waste buried in Darood lands Im smelling fkd nuke. Kkkk Im starting to wish that this waste dumping was true.

Would you be so kind and give me the link to the full article.

How have you deduced the vessels were owned by 'Darods'?. This isn't fkd. I don't care of the tribe of the person responsible. Denying Ali Mahdi signed off on it and had monetary gain is stupid.

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[Kulmiye]

lol you're just a dumb guy. Only on Somalispot would some dude support a warlord's words over established researchers and entities. I asked who exactly was supposed to try him and you've responded with drivel. Ali Mahdi and Nur Elmy Osman claimed to be part of a government, it's essentially a loophole :

"The difficulty in working out whether the deal is illegal stems from
loopholes that riddle the rules governing waste exports from Europe. The
1989 Basel Convention on Hazardous Wastes allows waste to be exported to
the Third World so long as exporting and importing governments approve the
trade. Switzerland, which has ratified the convention, can legally ship
waste to Somalia providing it deals with the Somali government. The problem
is that the UN has recognised no government in Somalia since January 1991."

It's clear you support him due to tribe. I think he was responsible,, you don't ; there isn't any point going back and forth.

Stop lying you retard Basel convention doesnt apply to radioactive waste, they have entirely different regulations and are under other international treaties. It is clearly stated in the basel convention.

ARTICLE 1
SCOPE OF THE CONVENTION
1.  The  following  wastes  that  are  subject to  transboundary  movement
shall be “hazardous wastes” for the purposes of this Convention:
  (a)  Wastes that belong to any category contained in Annex I, unless
they do not possess any of the characteristics contained in Annex III; and
(b)   Wastes that are not covered under paragraph (a) but are defined
as, or are considered to be, hazardous wastes by the domestic legislation
of the Party of export, import or transit.
2.   Wastes  that  belong to any  category  contained  in  Annex  II  that  are
subject  to  transboundary  movement  shall  be  “other  wastes”  for  the
purposes of this Convention.
3.   Wastes  which,  as  a  result  of  being  radioactive,  are  subject to  other
international  control  systems,  including  international  instruments,
applying specifically to radioactive materials, are excluded from the scope
of this Convention.

What other lies will you come up with?

 

[Kulmiye]

lol you're just a dumb guy. Only on Somalispot would some dude support a warlord's words over established researchers and entities. I asked who exactly was supposed to try him and you've responded with drivel. Ali Mahdi and Nur Elmy Osman claimed to be part of a government, it's essentially a loophole :

"The difficulty in working out whether the deal is illegal stems from
loopholes that riddle the rules governing waste exports from Europe. The
1989 Basel Convention on Hazardous Wastes allows waste to be exported to
the Third World so long as exporting and importing governments approve the
trade. Switzerland, which has ratified the convention, can legally ship
waste to Somalia providing it deals with the Somali government. The problem
is that the UN has recognised no government in Somalia since January 1991."

It's clear you support him due to tribe. I think he was responsible,, you don't ; there isn't any point going back and forth.

You are clearly not using your brains, so Im a tell you how it is.

No barrel of waste=no dumping.

No evidence=no case. It means I will believe my adeer over your smear campaings nacallaa.

Rationally I see no reason for the Italian mafia to do business with Cali Mahdi specially when the alleged dumping sites are located thousands of kms away from Cali Mahdis base and in an area he never controlled. Why would they pay him and gather attraction from the locals when they could just drop it on our ocean and no one would be wiser as they propably do and have done?

You seem to be on a witch hunt.

 

[Mozart]

Stop lying you retard Basel convention doesnt apply to radioactive waste, they have entirely different regulations and are under other international treaties. It is clearly stated in the basel convention.
3.   Wastes  which,  as  a  result  of  being  radioactive,  are  subject to  other
international  control  systems,  including  international  instruments,
applying specifically to radioactive materials, are excluded from the scope
of this Convention.

What other lies will you come up with?

I said there's a loophole, quoted some of it, and then you paste the agreement. How does that disprove the loophole ? Read the explanation in full if you wish : https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13518390-400-toxic-waste-adds-to-somalias-woes/

 

[Mozart]

You are clearly not using your brains, so Im a tell you how it is.

No barrel of waste=no dumping.
No evidence=no case. It means I will believe my adeer over your smear campaings nacallaa.

Rationally I see no reason for the Italian mafia to do business with Cali Mahdi specially when the alleged dumping sites are located thousands of kms away from Cali Mahdis base and in an area he never controlled. Why would they pay him and gather attraction from the locals when they could just drop it on our ocean and no one would be wiser as they propably do and have done?

You seem to be on a witch hunt.

Because if a future Somali government took them to court, many would be jailed and potentially billions paid out. If you get any form of government at the time and get them to sign, with the loopholes, you get off scot-free.

Read the times article i posted above and you'll get a timeline of what happened, how the contract he signed was presented to the parliament, and the effects. If parliaments are confirming they've seen the signed documents, it's not a smear campaign. Just go to 1:30 in the video OP posted for pics of the doc.

Medics have done studies on kids born in these regions with specific birth defects, the rise of certain cancers and respiratory problems that coincide with nuclear waste.

What do I gain from just blaming him ? it's astounding that with all of the relevant bodies citing his involvement, you're still hell-bent on defending a crook. Proper 68-er.